Zoe Sugg #70 Ottie & Dotty, are names that drive you potty

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I just want to caveat this by saying, I do like Mark. I think he is a nice person. I don’t care for a lot of his content i.e. the sitting around his flat talking about his ‘menteww elf’ or driving around Croydon whilst being visibly distracted by his own reflection in the viewfinder, but his solo travels and taste reviews make for much more compelling viewing.

However, he is cringy, especially around Zoe and Alfie. I get major inferiority complex from him which I doubt he has with his London chums. Henceforth why I find it particularly snide of Zoe to be continually highlighting when he trips over his words, or says something cringeworthy, and this thing they’ve done twice now of getting Mark to do a speech about THEM, in which he is putting himself down, is sickening to watch. Even opening his presents, she has to take a look first. That is 101 a toxic friendship.
I note Mark is on the rostrum of Joe’s talent agency, so I guess distancing himself might be a bit of a problem.
 
Considering she's obsessed with nostalgia and recreating her childhood, wouldn't you think she'd want to take the girls back to Wiltshire to spend time with her dad/nan? If they can manage to get to the Isle of Wight, I'm sure they could go there for the day with the girls during Vlogmas.

I just know that Zoe is one of these parents that thinks because she has kids, she doesn't have to make effort to maintain any relationships.
 
Secretadmirer said:
She’s the type to be like ‘Unless you make an effort with me and my kids you can sod off’ but then expect everyone to constantly kiss her arse, make a big fuss and come to her, make the effort with her and forget that those people have lives too, they have things going on and it works both ways!
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She’s the centre of the universe and if you don’t treat her as such she’ll drop you
 
MeghanSnarkle said:
I think the OP said preschool which is VERY educational for children and absolutely age appropriate for 2-3 year olds, they learn so much from qualified staff and social skills from the other children.

Nursery (in school) is of course different where starting at 4 is usually the norm.
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Ottie would start preschool at 4.

Actual school is started at 4 in England which is this coming September for Ottie. Although I wonder if they will hold her back a year.
 
sasbeep said:
Ottie would start preschool at 4.

Actual school is started at 4 in England which is this coming September for Ottie. Although I wonder if they will hold her back a year.
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Why do you think they’d hold her back a year? Just to keeping vlogging as they said they’d stop when she starts school?? It’s unusual to hold a child back from starting school in England, especially as Ottie is clearly bright and would easily keep up with her class even though she’ll be one of the youngest.
 
sasbeep said:
Ottie would start preschool at 4.

Actual school is started at 4 in England which is this coming September for Ottie. Although I wonder if they will hold her back a year.
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School Nursery at 4 here in the UK

Preschool will take children still in nappies or pull ups from as young as 2-3 years it's does what it's says really prepares them for school with lots of learning through play and unlike school Nursery teachers we don't mind supporting children learning to use the toilet or cleaning up after accidents 👍
 
My daughter just pointed out it looks like Novie has had stitches on her forehead. Has anyone else mentioned this or noticed it? Apologies if so!
 
jan f said:
My daughter just pointed out it looks like Novie has had stitches on her forehead. Has anyone else mentioned this or noticed it? Apologies if so!
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Was that maybe from when she fell and went to the hospital a week or couple of weeks back? Remember reading it on here but someone is free to correct me. I didn’t see anything mentioning stitches but again happy for someone with more info to correct me.
 
So odd that Joe went to see their dad and nan alone, especially seeing as Joe and Zoe are practically neighbours and could've driven up there together. It's not like she doesn't basically have 24/7 free time. Maybe Zoe and her dad had some sort of falling out, but not going to see your nan for christmas is so sad. I wish I could still go and see mine. :( Has she ever been up there to see her with the kids?
 
MeghanSnarkle said:
School Nursery at 4 here in the UK

Preschool will take children still in nappies or pull ups from as young as 2-3 years it's does what it's says really prepares them for school with lots of learning through play and unlike school Nursery teachers we don't mind supporting children learning to use the toilet or cleaning up after accidents 👍
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It depends on the birth month. Isn’t she August? So she is due to start school this September, not preschool,
Most children will start at 4 and turn 5 during the first year.
If she doesn’t go to school in September it’s because they’ve applied to hold her back a year.
 
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