Zoe Sugg #70 Ottie & Dotty, are names that drive you potty

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GoldSilver said:
Is their bed in the middle of the room? I can’t work out what’s at the side of it? Cupboards? And then a door to the en suite directly behind the headboard?
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they put their bed a bit further away from the wall. you know the closer your furniture is to the walls the more povo you are LOL.

you can walk behind it, the ensuit is behind that headboard yeah. i think they wanted to make it look like a hotel room.

the side of the bed must be nightstands
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trust zoe to be nostalgic about freaking wrapping paper 😂
 
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rinceyyy said:
i know christmas is supposed to be about giving instead of receiving, but zoe's gifts for mark were actually terrible!!! at least with mark, you could tell he spent a good amount of $$$ and put thought into them.
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Their friendship is so fake and put on though. Mark no longer really fits into Zoe's life with two kids, however he clings onto the relationship because it's views and income. Zoe clings onto it because gay bestie friend is 'cool' and Mark has become one of her nostalgia things for her. I'd feel sorry for Mark, but he will always put up with whatever Zoe dishes out to him because it's views and money - there's nothing real or genuine about it.
 
Mark likes cologne and she could have gotten him a nice one from Tom Ford. Alfie got him that one year. Her gifts suck.
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MrsSlocombe said:
I tell you what would be very interesting is a play date between Ottie spoilt brat centre of the entire universe Deyes, and Diane's little niece from Australia.
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They'd never let her be around kids her age, ever. Whenever she goes to school will be the first time, and because of how they've raised her--it will be hard times. I imagine her and Novie will have some doozy fights one day.
 
Joe visited their Dad and their Nan in Wiltshire in his Vlogmas. He went by himself. Safe to say Zoe won’t be making a trip because he mentioned his Nan was sending him back with gifts for her. He said he and his Dad are planning to do a project together next year fixing up a boat. So they have a relationship at least. There was an old framed photo of Zoe and Joe in one shot too. Doubt he’s invited to the Deyes-Sugg-Buswell’s family meet that’s happening this year. Maybe he has a full life and doesn’t mind the distance but it seems a bit sad. She could have done Mark’s gift exchange when he came to stay with her right before Novie’s birthday and gone and done the trip with Joe today instead if it was a priority to her. I always thought it was nice how the two of them would go visit back in the day and do Christmas with their grandparents and cousins on that side. I know we don’t see every moment of their lives but it would surprise me if Zoe went and visited him at all this year or vice versa. The girls call Tracey’s husband Grand-Dad.

Totally different topic now but thought of this as I watched Zoe’s video - Has it ever occurred to her she wakes up at 4:30 because at that point she’s likely already had like 7/8 hours of sleep? And prior to that she lay down in bed for multiple hours? Following a hot bath? After a day of exerting zero physical energy and only eating carbs? So her body is maxed out on rest?
 
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mg95 said:
Joe visited their Dad and their Nan in Wiltshire in his Vlogmas. He went by himself. Safe to say Zoe won’t be making a trip because he mentioned his Nan was sending him back with gifts for her. He said he and his Dad are planning to do a project together next year fixing up a boat. So they have a relationship at least. There was an old framed photo of Zoe and Joe in one shot too. Doubt he’s invited to the Deyes-Sugg-Buswell’s family meet that’s happening this year. Maybe he has a full life and doesn’t mind the distance but it seems a bit sad. She could have done Mark’s gift exchange when he came to stay with her right before Novie’s birthday and gone and done the trip with Joe today instead if it was a priority to her. I always thought it was nice how the two of them would go visit back in the day and do Christmas with their grandparents and cousins on that side. I know we don’t see every moment of their lives but it would surprise me if Zoe went and visited him at all this year or vice versa. The girls call Tracey’s husband Grand-Dad.

Totally different topic now but thought of this as I watched Zoe’s video - Has it ever occurred to her she wakes up at 4:30 because at that point she’s likely already had like 7/8 hours of sleep? And prior to that she lay down in bed for multiple hours? Following a hot bath? After a day of exerting zero physical energy and only eating carbs? So her body is maxed out on rest?
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WTF is she doing at 4:30am, cause she's definitely not hitting the gym.
 
I get the impression their Dad is a man who doesn’t like a fuss, likes to keep himself to himself and likes a simple life. He didn’t like to appear in the vlogs before if I remember right so I can imagine he might feel like he wouldn’t really fit in with their ‘new fancy lifestyle’ now which is quite sad considering it’s her Dad and they seemed so close before all this. It’s nice Joe goes to see him though (and other relatives) still but it’s sad Zoe won’t put herself out and go and visit or stay with him occasionally. But that’s Zoe all over she expects everyone to come to her and fit into her life otherwise she’s not interested.
 
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