Zoe Sugg #70 Ottie & Dotty, are names that drive you potty

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Lurker121 said:
Why is Zoe’s mum always at their house? I’m sure when they got out of bed the other morning and came down to see the new Christmas tree, Zoe’s mum just appeared too. It feels like she’s always there lurking. Most people would want some time alone but not them.
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My biggest question is: doesn't she have a life? Like seriously, she's there all the time. I know she lives next door but surely she has hobbies, needs to visit her elderly mother, would want to travel etc. It's not normal to give up everything to help your adult child with minding their own kids 24/7.*

Also, I wouldn't make such sacrifices for a person who basically cut ties to me for years and only got back in touch when they needed a free babysitter. But that's just me.

* = and before anyone attacks me – I mean a family where neither parent works and both parents are healthy and very capable of taking care of the kids on their own
 
Heretonoseyandcreeo said:
100% people get up for work at that time, go to the gym etc.

I fully get he’s going to bed late but honestly they could answer the question any time past 4pm as it’s dark and just add it in at the end where people think it’s later and once the girls are away to bed then finish editing? I don’t do his job so I’ve no idea but to me that would make the most sense
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They could also always not do the question because it's boring mastabatory nonsense..
 
Helmi said:
My biggest question is: doesn't she have a life? Like seriously, she's there all the time. I know she lives next door but surely she has hobbies, needs to visit her elderly mother, would want to travel etc. It's not normal to give up everything to help your adult child with minding their own kids 24/7.*

Also, I wouldn't make such sacrifices for a person who basically cut ties to me for years and only got back in touch when they needed a free babysitter. But that's just me.

* = and before anyone attacks me – I mean a family where neither parent works and both parents are healthy and very capable of taking care of the kids on their own
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to be fair to her from what we know she does do her jewellery making, her & her husband go on holiday quite a bit, she’s often in the garden. she’s probably now at the point in her life though where she enjoys being around her family & her grandchildren, whether she’s “needed” there or not.
 
Absolutely unhinged behaviour. They can never undo the damage they’ve caused by selling their toddler’s anonymity to the public.
 

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londongirl2001 said:
My personal little conspiracy theory as to what happened to her dad: I think she asked him to move closer to them after she had kids, he said no (as is his right), then she asked her mom, who said yes - and that was it. We know that ever since she’s become a mum Zoe is even worse than before about how everyone has to cater to her needs (remember the fuss she would make about all the Brit crew having to do the same Halloween activity with her every year?). Papa Sugg probably was like „nope, I’ve got a life here and your grandma close by, can’t do“ and she went and bought her mum a house, and got a free 24/7 babysitter in return.
I don’t think they fell out completely, but I could imagine that being the reason as to why she’s seeing him less these days.
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I’m fairly certain that the grandma is Tracey’s mum.
 
I’ve only just watched yesterday‘s vlog, and I usually turn off at the questionnaire at the end of each video, but I’ve listened to them both prattle on and I absolutely cannot believe what i’m hearing.
Woe is me. Apparently it takes them the entire month of January to get over a whole month of December, of filming themselves socialising and being with their children, and it takes them all of January to straighten out their house out after hosting Christmas. Don’t they have cleaners? As well as people who come round to clean and valet their entourage of cars and a gardener and someone to pluck their eyebrows, and their parents to wipe their arses.
Going on about how frantically busy they are. I just can’t believe how completely disassociated they are from reality. How can they be? Especially if they have people who they employ. They just don’t seem to understand what working life is really like. To go OUT to work, more often than not in a job low paid and unrewarding job, Monday - Friday from 9 to 5 with a busy commute home afterwards, come home and if you’ve got children you’re working day doesn’t finish because you have to obviously attend to their needs. You don’t get a break. Most people get 25 days holiday A YEAR to do the luxury pursuits these two seemingly indulge themselves with 12 months of the year. They’ve both been on one long hiatus since lockdown, if not before. ‘Work’ for her seemed to involve getting done up to the nines to go into the office and interrupt her employees with dogs and board games and PO Box opening.

Sometimes I feel mean coming on here and judging them both, but when I hear them talking like that, it just reminds me why I do, because they’re willing to share their lives that is just a sub reality. It’s not real for majority of people and it’s just grotesque.
 
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PurvyPanda said:
I’ve only just watched yesterday‘s vlog, and I usually turn off at the questionnaire at the end of each video, but I’ve listened to them both prattle on and I absolutely cannot believe what i’m hearing.
Woe is me. Apparently it takes them the entire month of January to get over a whole month of December, of filming themselves socialising and being with their children, and it takes them all of January to straighten out their house out after hosting Christmas. Don’t they have cleaners? As well as people who come round to clean and valet their entourage of cars and a gardener and someone to pluck their eyebrows, and their parents to wipe their arses.
Going on about how frantically busy they are. I just can’t believe how completely disassociated they are from reality. How can they be? Especially if they have people who they employ. They just don’t seem to understand what working life is really like. To go OUT to work, more often than not in a job low paid and unrewarding job, Monday - Friday from 9 to 5 with a busy commute home afterwards, come home and if you’ve got children you’re working day doesn’t finish because you have to obviously attend to their needs. You don’t get a break. Most people get 25 days holiday A YEAR to do the luxury pursuits these two seemingly indulge themselves with 12 months of the year. They’ve both been on one long hiatus since lockdown, if not before. ‘Work’ for her seemed to involve getting done up to the nines to go into the office and interrupt her employees with dogs and board games and PO Box opening.

Sometimes I feel mean coming on here and judging them both, but when I hear them talking like that, it just reminds me why I do, because they’re willing to share their lives that is just a sub reality. It’s not real for majority of people and it’s just grotesque.
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Yes they have cleaners so how does it take them all of January to straighten out the house?
 
Was it me or did Tracey not look her upbeat self tonight. I like tracey but didn't realise until vlogmas she was remarried always thought she was single and there's been times cameras been on her and not her usual self. Hopefully she's not exhausted after running around doing zoes parenting for her .
 
I’ll never forget the last time they did vlogmas (2022 I think?) and it turned out that Tracey had been seriously ill in hospital in December (she posted it on her Instagram) and yet there had been zero mention of it in the vlogs. I’m not saying they should have started divulging her medical info, but she wasn’t keeping it a secret and there wasn’t even a “my mum is unwell so I’m going to visit her later”, the vlogs were unchanged and I remain positive that they never bothered to visit her. In fact, I’m sure I remember Tracey replying to a comment on Instagram along the lines of “watching vlogmas every day from hospital so I don’t miss them too much” or something
 
So weird in the vlog seeing Joe hold his phone filming everything and then turning the camera around for his own reaction and then Alfie holding a camera up filming too. This all when they meant to be having a fun family night it must be so weird! Then at otties bed time she starts taking photos on Zoe's phone and she takes a photo of Zoe and her standing with a camera recording otties bed time. It's all so strange and like black mirror or something really scary that we will definitely look back at as wrong in a good few years time when it doesn't exist
 
Honeystar said:
I’ll never forget the last time they did vlogmas (2022 I think?) and it turned out that Tracey had been seriously ill in hospital in December (she posted it on her Instagram) and yet there had been zero mention of it in the vlogs. I’m not saying they should have started divulging her medical info, but she wasn’t keeping it a secret and there wasn’t even a “my mum is unwell so I’m going to visit her later”, the vlogs were unchanged and I remain positive that they never bothered to visit her. In fact, I’m sure I remember Tracey replying to a comment on Instagram along the lines of “watching vlogmas every day from hospital so I don’t miss them too much” or something
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Oh yeah I remember! I think she ended up in hospital twice in that time before Christmas. I didn’t get the impression that Zoe visited her or really gave a tit. She would now because she would lose childcare.
Tracey looks great, but looking after children is a lot harder in your 60s plus! Maybe she feels guilty about the divorce so does more even though she shouldn’t.
 
Honeystar said:
I’ll never forget the last time they did vlogmas (2022 I think?) and it turned out that Tracey had been seriously ill in hospital in December (she posted it on her Instagram) and yet there had been zero mention of it in the vlogs. I’m not saying they should have started divulging her medical info, but she wasn’t keeping it a secret and there wasn’t even a “my mum is unwell so I’m going to visit her later”, the vlogs were unchanged and I remain positive that they never bothered to visit her. In fact, I’m sure I remember Tracey replying to a comment on Instagram along the lines of “watching vlogmas every day from hospital so I don’t miss them too much” or something
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I remember that now. As I said up thread, that’s because their content is sub reality. It’s not real. I loved it the other day when she asked Mark if they were in the Truman show and Mark pointed to her camera and said ‘yeah!’

All the bad bits like toddler tantrums etc are all omitted because they want us to think they are perfect. It’s nonsense really. They’re smug. Shamelessly smug.
 
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