Ryan Reynolds & Blake Lively

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One of the allegations is that he walked in on her breastfeeding, but this was worded in the same sentence (that I saw) with him walking in on her nude. Unless she breastfeeds completely topless these are not the same two things in terms of privacy. I just thought they were two weird things to lump together, as most mums of four don’t demand total privacy to feed their baby!

also it seems strange that she demanded things be changed, but then didn’t argue against the tone of the promotion she says she was forced to follow. So she didn’t see anything wrong with promoting florals and cocktails then?
 
Yel said:
It really doesn't add up for me. She's been in the industry for nearly 20 years and is one of the most powerful people in Hollywood. I could understand her claims if she was a newbie. But she's shown during interviews she has no problems standing her ground so can't see why she'd be a totally different person on set.

At the moment I'm struggling to believe her version of events. But I'll reserve full judgement until he's allowed a voice to respond
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This…. 100%
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And to suggest she should have told them where to go rather than criticising his behaviour is part of the problem.
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Maybe the problem is that she, like many people in Hollyweird let things happen, don’t say anything then sue for personal money and not justice. She part of the problem not the solution.
 
https://www.12ft.io/https://www.dai...ively-trailer-friends-sex-scenes-lawsuit.html

I find it hard to believe he is guilty of nothing after reading this.

I always felt he was a bit of creep, like he protests too much or something.

And his PR teams laughing that they don’t even believe some of the stuff they’ve generated - gross.
 
Maybe I’m just dim, but how can it be a smear campaign when she literally used the press junket for the movie as promotion for her brands, talked about the fashion more than the core themes of the movie and old clips of her being an asshole came back to the light.

that’s….all her? If it was a targeted campaign he didn’t have to try very hard.
 
Chinese_whispers said:
Maybe I’m just dim, but how can it be a smear campaign when she literally used the press junket for the movie as promotion for her brands, talked about the fashion more than the core themes of the movie and old clips of her being an asshole came back to the light.

that’s….all her? If it was a targeted campaign he didn’t have to try very hard.
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One of the things he suggests is using her and RR’s own words against them i.e. highlighting how problematic they are. So, yeah, they did all that to themselves
 
jfletcher said:
The fact that “a very powerful woman with a very powerful husband” endured that behaviour on set shows just how problematic Hollywood is and the power imbalance that exists. And to suggest she should have told them where to go rather than criticising his behaviour is part of the problem.

Being naked for film is common but it comes with a huge amount of protections that were not adhered to by Baldoni and his production company:

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I find I need to take this with a pinch of salt. Over the summer there were multiple articles and interviews where both Justin and Blake mentioned the importance of the intimacy coordinators and how they were present on the set for all these kinds of scenes. Even saying that Justin referred to them for reassurance and a thumbs up that everything was okay and how Blake believed it was essential that these scenes were choreographed for everyone's safety. So either they were both lying during the summer, the intimacy coordinators half arsed their jobs or the situation has been twisted to suit the narrative that Blake now wants to push.

It feels like there is an entire chunk of context missing from her complaint. Yes the texts look bad but I'd want to see the entire conversation rather than cherry picked examples. I'm also not saying him showing her nudes and the other inappropriate things he did weren't inappropriate but I don't believe they would have been done without reason. Same as the comment about him asking about her weight.

I also don't understand how her cross marketing her own brands would have been within the marketing plan of the movie. Also, why would wearing Britney's dress be in that marketing plan?

Two crappy people don't make one right?

I'm interested to see how this pans out and the potential implications this could have for future projects, not just for Justin and Blake.
 
Not saying she’s lying but I would be really surprised if these allegations are true. Some of the allegations seem absolutely ridiculous as well. Also I’d be really interested to hear what Gina Rodriguez says about what her experience working with Justin was like as she worked with him for years. Regardless I think both of their careers are over now.
 
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What it comes down to for me is, would Blake be taking this action for sexual harassment if her reputation wasn’t in tatters after the movie promotions, and the answer is no. She was happy enough to go along with the conditions, and is now weaponising those experiences that she had no issue with at the time because of sour grapes. That is all. They both sounds like complete fools driven by huge egos, but I do not buy for one second Blake’s account of things on set which paint her as a powerless and voiceless newbie. She needs to take ownership of how she acted while promoting this film. No one else made her act and say the things she did. She did not need a helping hand in destroying her own reputation, she did it fine all by herself.
 
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What it comes down to for me is, would Blake be taking this action for sexual harassment if her reputation wasn’t in tatters after the movie promotions, and the answer is no. She was happy enough to go along with the conditions, and is now weaponising those experiences that she had no issue with at the time because of sour grapes. That is all. They both sounds like complete fools driven by huge egos, but I do not buy for one second Blake’s account of things on set which paint her as a powerless and voiceless newbie. She needs to take ownership of how she acted while promoting this film. No one else made her act and say the things she did. She did not need a helping hand in destroying her own reputation, she did it fine all by herself.
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Except she did have an issue with them at the time, there was a meeting about it on set.

His own PR team have been caught red saying they can’t believe how easily people are willing to dislike women.
 
I think some of these things in the suit she is alleging to have happened when she first started working on the film and as a result, threatened not to continue if things weren’t put in place. I believe it was at this point that Ryan started attending on set. This would then make sense.

I also think they didn’t have intimacy co-ordinators initially either and we both doing things based on their interpretation of the script and I think that was the problem - she references JB biting her lip during a kiss scene and this was apparently written in the book (not script) he did that as his character but she wasn’t aware of this/nor had it been discussed beforehand.

What doesn’t make sense is RR rewriting things (during the writers strike) so I feel there was some weird want/need to take over by them both.

I agree, I’d like context to more of this however I’m not sure in what context I could be working with a male colleague and he end up showing me naked photos of women.

The PR stuff makes no sense to me. I think that part of her claims is to try rescue her own reputation that she fucked up as initially this is where the majority of people’s issues came from - her crass promotion of the movie and plugging her own products with 0 reference to DV. If all of this had happened on set, where she felt powerless and was make to feel uncomfortable, surely she’d push the DV/power imbalance talk all the more during the press releases.

I think there is truth to both sides here, and I also think there is an element of using this civil case to try scrape back some of her reputation personally
 
ahtisyourself said:
What it comes down to for me is, would Blake be taking this action for sexual harassment if her reputation wasn’t in tatters after the movie promotions, and the answer is no. She was happy enough to go along with the conditions, and is now weaponising those experiences that she had no issue with at the time because of sour grapes. That is all. They both sounds like complete fools driven by huge egos, but I do not buy for one second Blake’s account of things on set which paint her as a powerless and voiceless newbie. She needs to take ownership of how she acted while promoting this film. No one else made her act and say the things she did. She did not need a helping hand in destroying her own reputation, she did it fine all by herself.
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to be fair she wouldn't have done this even if all this was true and her reputation was intact. It's a bit sad that it's seemingly only feasible to come forward when you have nothing to lose anymore (and often even then not)
 
Both things can be true: he can be a lovely man to work with and a harasser on another job to another woman. She can be a victim and an asshole. The world is complex.

I don’t like Blake or Ryan so it’s easy to roll my eyes at her complaints, but that’s how men fall through the cracks. Because it so easy to make people dislike women. Do I think it’s part of a bigger ploy for her? Yes but I don’t know if that’s internal misogyny or intuition because I’ve nothing to base it on
 
Something people seem to be missing is that the film's main producer & heavy financial backer is Baldoni's friend and fellow member of the shady Bahai'i religion/group.

Baldoni was never going to be just "removed" from the film.

It was other random men from this group (not professional actors) who were the ones Blake complained about being brought in during her nude scenes.

Her ex Gossip Girl co star Penn Badgley is also a member of this religion and preaches it on his podcast. Which may or many not be relevant.

Blake did not come across well during the film's promo, but alarm bells began to ring for me once I found out how hard Baldoni pushed his image as a feminist/against "toxic masculinity" etc. Men who preach feminism and try to elevate themselves above other men that way is always 🚩🚩 🚩
 
I have a question... They had the big meeting and wrote a contract to which everyone had to adhere with regards to conduct on set. Things seemingly didn't change so why wasn't production halted? If these things took place surely that's breach of contract and breach of health and safety? Why couldn't everything have been stopped at the time and sorted out then? I think the original meeting took place due to the writers' strike but surely you can pause production again if you have concerns?
 
Jellycat369 said:
I find I need to take this with a pinch of salt. Over the summer there were multiple articles and interviews where both Justin and Blake mentioned the importance of the intimacy coordinators and how they were present on the set for all these kinds of scenes. Even saying that Justin referred to them for reassurance and a thumbs up that everything was okay and how Blake believed it was essential that these scenes were choreographed for everyone's safety. So either they were both lying during the summer, the intimacy coordinators half arsed their jobs or the situation has been twisted to suit the narrative that Blake now wants to push.

It feels like there is an entire chunk of context missing from her complaint. Yes the texts look bad but I'd want to see the entire conversation rather than cherry picked examples. I'm also not saying him showing her nudes and the other inappropriate things he did weren't inappropriate but I don't believe they would have been done without reason. Same as the comment about him asking about her weight.

I also don't understand how her cross marketing her own brands would have been within the marketing plan of the movie. Also, why would wearing Britney's dress be in that marketing plan?

Two crappy people don't make one right?

I'm interested to see how this pans out and the potential implications this could have for future projects, not just for Justin and Blake.
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Sounds a bit like victim blaming to be fair. Pervs are gonna perv, even without provocation. A random flasher doesn't flash his cock because someone has flirted with him or let him feel her tits. He does it because he can, simple as.
 
WaWooWeeWa said:
Isn't Middleton just a duchess or whatever? Either way, her not having respect for the ruling class of a country of which she isn't a citizen, a country which her own country fought a war to NOT have to respect, isn't a crime in my book. Worse things are said on Tattle every day, and let's not pretend like half this site wasn't as ensconced in that drama as she was lol.



Yeah much like the lawsuit this strikes me as post facto ass covering. I don't believe for a second that Blake gives a tit about women struggling with infertility
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No. She’s The Princess of Wales.


Either way, her not having respect for the ruling class of a country of which she isn't a citizen, a country which her own country fought a war to NOT have to respect, isn't a crime in my boo

Maybe she should have some respect then that might contribute to people not thinking she’s a big gaping leaking tone deaf a**hole. She’s obviously aware of what she did and posted that fake apology.
 
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Phil Anne Throw Pee said:
Sounds a bit like victim blaming to be fair. Pervs are gonna perv, even without provocation. A random flasher doesn't flash his cock because someone has flirted with him or let him feel her tits. He does it because he can, simple as.
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I'm absolutely not victim blaming. Having never worked on a movie set I don't know how it works with regards to story boarding scenes and how a director communicates how they want a scene to look like on screen. Given how Blake kept saying how heavily involved she was in the production, I'm just wondering if perhaps he was showing her pictures like this is the kinda look and feel we're going for. Is it still inappropriate? Absolutely. Could he just be a massive perv? Absolutely.
 
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