It’s always amazing to me to see people on this thread talk about the online abuse and hate train Liam experienced, and then post about how boring Harry is because he’s actively removed himself from online spaces and performing for a camera/social media the way most artists do. The “PR responses” are just as much a protection tactic and way of dealing with the intense fame at a young age as anything Liam might’ve done. Why would Harry want to give responses to things when we’ve all just discussed what Liam experienced when he did just that? I don’t blame any celebrity for not engaging with social media and he’s got just as much personality as he always did if you watch any video when he’s on stage
There’s a section in Maya’s book where she mentions Liam would bring him up a lot about how he was jealous of Harry’s success. And he basically said as much over the years publicly.
Im taking anything in Maya's book with a pinch of salt.... she spent the first 40/50 pages of the book overemphasising the fact everytime she came in to contact with Liam she didn't recognise him or know it was him despite being a huge fan of his, she tries to pass this off as being because she hasn;t been a fan of 1D/Liam since she was younger, which would be plausible if she met him when in her late 20s/early 30s and hadn't been a fan since 15/16 but she met him again at 18 having met the band at a m&g when she was 15, so there is no way she forgot who they or Liam were in those 3 years. She also spends the entire book potraying her mother and brother as the most angelic amazing humble hard working blah blah blah human beings to ever exist and everyone else is the bad person "rolls eyes". People complain about those of us who criticise or analyze things Maya has said or her book but no one is talking about how she slut shames and uses derogatory terms for some women in her book, actively calling a woman a
bleep. The way she also refers to her brothers friends as "the twins" rather than by their actual names. She tries to make out she is a sought after model getting offfered all these jobs all the time yet no one had really heard of her much. The story involving his family too - are we expected to believe that his Dad was a raging bully over the fact the mum did not manage to find a sticky toffee pudding desert for Liam when he was visiting? And again - Maya potrays herself as the angel in his life sticking up to these nasty people (hsi dad, sister, manager, etc etc) in a way no one ever has before, and it is always the other person at fault in all the interactions with maya. Liam comes a cross as pretty much a Daddy's boy, always with his Dad and very close to his family. I doubt they were as awful as maya makes them out in her book. It isn't hard to see what the fans thought and were saying, yeah probably did say things about the other guys esp Harry but im pretty sure she has exagerrated much of it knowing it would draw attention and create drama. She pretty much has over exaggerated her nicesness and humbleness in the book. Humble people do not have $6million dollar parties when they are 15. Just looking at clips of her mother they are definately not a nice humble family.
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I just think Liam was so slept on. I've been listening to his solo music a lot recently and the amount of insanely good adlibs, runs and falsettos he has in so many of his songs is crazy, they're jaw-droppingly good. By all accounts he had essentially finished recording his second album so hopefully it's released one day, it will be interesting to hear how his sound has changed and evolved.
I agree, the songs iv heard were really good, I see him as more of a michael buble but with more personality and could do some upbeat songs rather than just croon but he seemed to really want to go down the r'n'b route which didn't seem to go well for him. I think its a shame he got so much flak for some songs that turns out he didn't even write.
I like a lot of harry's songs, he is very talented. I feel a lot of what he does comes across as perfomative to me. If he wore skirts in his real life then fair enough but he doesn't but he wears one for a magazine cover and everyone acts like he has done something brave and progressive, when it was really just for his image and showmanship rather than how he actually wants to be. I read that he talks about being open minded and pansexual and he invited a female singer on his tour who apparantly simulated a sex act during her set list while singing and she got a lot of hate online for it and he, Harry, did not say a thing or stand up for her perfomance. He acts like a feminist but has never once stood up for any of his past gf's who received horrendous hate. Other celebs would get a lot more criticism for doing half the things Harry has done. I do think the music world is all about who has the better fake persona and PR team to help them. Harry is no better than the other !D lads, he just aligned himself with the better people and networked with the bigger celebs while out in LA during the 1D days. Had any of the other boys done that instead of Harry then it might have been them in Harry's position.
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In hindsight.... Liam and harry are the only 2 that should've been successful after 1d ended
Zayn is boring to watch live. He can sing but is extremely unprofessional. He's known to cancel and fans have just accepted anything with him is a risk
Louis has never been able to sing and is lucky to have gotten this far. He has no stage presence either and hides behind this laddish behaviour and humour to disguise the fact that he can't sing or write. Louis' solo songs showed that Liam was the better songwriter
Niall has always thought he was better than he actually is. His voice is nothing special either, and he's boring to watch
Agree re: Zayn, such an amazing talent and voice, but his stage presence/show seems boring to me but I am only seeing small clips. I do also wonder how much his anxiety and introversion affects this. Hopefully in time he gains more confidence and more of a stage presence. I think Harry is probably the only one who has managed to put on a really good gig. The others I think are better suited to being in the band. I wonder if Liam, Louis & Niall had of just made a 3-person band how it would've went, kind of like Take That and S Club changing line-ups but still doing well. Niall couldv'e played his guitar and the 3 of them liked having a laugh on stage, I feel with the right songs it might have worked. They had a big enough fanbase that it may have worked even for a few tours, and who knows, if it had of done well maybe Harry and or Zayn may have re-joined eventually or just come in now and again but not permanatly.
and the disruption of that it would be obvious.
