Two sets of twins killed in fire- mum arrested for neglect

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Jellybean093 said:
I was just thinking…
She went shopping for over an hour and a half. She was able to walk back with shopping bags. Now, if I was shopping for that long, I would be coming back with about 20 bags, and not being able to do the 10 minute walk back…

@BigBertha @StiflersMom , I hope you are both ok. I’m 10 minutes up the road and it has massively affected me, I don’t know how you both are being closer. My sons school even put a little prayer in their school newsletter yesterday 💔
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I’m ok thanks for asking - it’s just one of those things that is always a tragedy but always makes you think more when closer to home. At end of the day I wasn’t there, had no involvement or even know the boys/mum/dad - so I can’t be sitting here like a grieving tourist (if you know what I mean). @BigBertha hope your little one is ok too!

A cousin of mine knows their dad and said there are a couple of gofundmes and Facebook collections going on for their funerals - Sutton may be called a lot of things and have some right sorts living there lol but it’s a tit hot community when it’s one of our own….they’ll get the send off they deserve❤️
 
StiflersMom said:
I’m ok thanks for asking - it’s just one of those things that is always a tragedy but always makes you think more when closer to home. At end of the day I wasn’t there, had no involvement or even know the boys/mum/dad - so I can’t be sitting here like a grieving tourist (if you know what I mean). @BigBertha hope your little one is ok too!

A cousin of mine knows their dad and said there are a couple of gofundmes and Facebook collections going on for their funerals - Sutton may be called a lot of things and have some right sorts living there lol but it’s a tit hot community when it’s one of our own….they’ll get the send off they deserve❤
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Yer, I know what you mean. You can still be upset without being a grief tourist. This sort of thing would affect the hardest/un emotional person
I hope they do. Poor boys x
 
Jellybean093 said:
I was just thinking…
She went shopping for over an hour and a half. She was able to walk back with shopping bags. Now, if I was shopping for that long, I would be coming back with about 20 bags, and not being able to do the 10 minute walk back…
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It read to me like "she went to Sainsburys" was just something that one neighbour said. It may turn out to be untrue.
 
Jellybean093 said:
Sorry if that was snappy. It’s happened roads away from where I was brought up and where I now live, and it has literally shocked everyone
I didn’t realise she had a full time job, but even so, you fit these things around your kids. I’ve had to drag myself out of bed when it was me and my eldest just to get milk. Never would I have left her that young
And also, it was before 7pm. There’s no way 4 boys are asleep before then?
I know this is from the sun, but this is just awful if true
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Up until last year it was the next road to me and my child went to the same school so I totally understand ❤️ We are all feeling like this xxx
 
Jellybean093 said:
I was just thinking…
She went shopping for over an hour and a half. She was able to walk back with shopping bags. Now, if I was shopping for that long, I would be coming back with about 20 bags, and not being able to do the 10 minute walk back…

@BigBertha @StiflersMom , I hope you are both ok. I’m 10 minutes up the road and it has massively affected me, I don’t know how you both are being closer. My sons school even put a little prayer in their school newsletter yesterday 💔
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It’s not even 10 minutes you cut through the estate and it brings you out by the car park from her house it’s a 3 minute walk. The corner shop is 30 seconds from her house. She was in the middle so she’s got one on the right, 30 secs away. He doesn’t do gas or electric so the one under the bridge 1 minute from her house does. No excuses x

StiflersMom said:
I’m ok thanks for asking - it’s just one of those things that is always a tragedy but always makes you think more when closer to home. At end of the day I wasn’t there, had no involvement or even know the boys/mum/dad - so I can’t be sitting here like a grieving tourist (if you know what I mean). @BigBertha hope your little one is ok too!

A cousin of mine knows their dad and said there are a couple of gofundmes and Facebook collections going on for their funerals - Sutton may be called a lot of things and have some right sorts living there lol but it’s a tit hot community when it’s one of our own….they’ll get the send off they deserve❤
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I wonder if I know you? Small world
 
BigBrenda said:
It’s not even 10 minutes you cut through the estate and it brings you out by the car park from her house it’s a 3 minute walk. The corner shop is 30 seconds from her house. She was in the middle so she’s got one on the right, 30 secs away. He doesn’t do gas or electric so the one under the bridge 1 minute from her house does. No excuses x


I wonder if I know you? Small world
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Yer, I did think about the cut through, but it was dark, and I know I wouldn’t want to go through there at night time 🙈 or anywhere at night!x

Those boys shouldn’t have been left. With coats on as they had no heating, if I remember correctly?
 
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BigBrenda said:
It’s not even 10 minutes you cut through the estate and it brings you out by the car park from her house it’s a 3 minute walk. The corner shop is 30 seconds from her house. She was in the middle so she’s got one on the right, 30 secs away. He doesn’t do gas or electric so the one under the bridge 1 minute from her house does. No excuses x


I wonder if I know you? Small world
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It Is def a small world so you never know! I’m further up nearer Rose Hill so not quite ‘on the doorstep’. Although my Aunt lived on the end house by the bridge as I was growing up so was round that way all the time.

I do hope the truth comes out though, as it’s all hearsay atm and I guess that isn’t anything their family needs to hear. At the end of the day they should have never been left in their own, whatever the reason maybe - Personally, and I guess many others would agree, you wouldn't go to the corner shop 30secs away let alone the supermarket 5mins away. Only time will tell…..
 
Jellybean093 said:
Yer, I did think about the cut through, but it was dark, and I know I wouldn’t want to go through there at night time 🙈 or anywhere at night!x

Those boys shouldn’t have been left. With coats on as they had no heating, if I remember correctly?
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It’s not a bad area, where she lives you’ve got a big tower block zero problems from it. The block is filled with families all 2 bedroom flats. It’s a very safe area and the schools are outstanding. Sutton is a great place to live in and every one looks out for one another. For example the man in the shop will let you take what you need and you pay later it’s like that. I’ve cut through that part most nights for 7 years and never had an issue. If she needed someone to watch the kids any one would of done it. We all mind each other’s kids and lend each other things. Just will be one of those things I don’t think anyone will ever be able to come to terms with, because it was completely avoidable 😭

BigBrenda said:
It’s not a bad area, where she lives you’ve got a big tower block zero problems from it. The block is filled with families all 2 bedroom flats. It’s a very safe area and the schools are outstanding. Sutton is a great place to live in and every one looks out for one another. For example the man in the shop will let you take what you need and you pay later it’s like that. I’ve cut through that part most nights for 7 years and never had an issue. If she needed someone to watch the kids any one would of done it. We all mind each other’s kids and lend each other things. Just will be one of those things I don’t think anyone will ever be able to come to terms with, because it was completely avoidable 😭
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Sorry meant to say behind her house you’ve got a block of flats and across the road there’s another block of flats again very safe just very old now.
 
Amyx1518 said:
You just don’t leave 3 and 4 year olds alone, simple as. This is not a person that needs sympathy.
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Couldn't agree more. I'm shocked there were initially posts giving her the benefit of the doubt (along the lines of maybe she was a poor single mum having to work, with no childcare). I think many posters are very sympathetic and try to find the good in people, so I did understand to an extent. But as a mum of a toddler the thought of accepting a shift at work with no childcare would be unimaginable to me. It just wouldn't happen.

As another poster said, this is clearly not the first time it's happened.
 
Why the duck do these arseholes have kids. I'm sick to death of reading about mitigating circumstances relating to child abuse, neglect, violence and death.

The recent case that's been in the forefront of the News of cruelty and violence that lead to a child's death brought out the wet blanket mob defending the mother (and attacking those that didn't) and rolling out all the same clichéd excuses ad nauseum - domestic violence, dysfunctional upbringing, low IQ, over burdened etc.

The mother's low IQ wasn't low enough that she didn't know the difference between right and wrong.

It's wrong to watch your child being battered by a partner.
It's wrong to leave young kids home alone.
No excuses.
 
RIP those beautiful boys :( ♥

Also, I’m sorry but let’s say she was out for an hour and a half. What are the chances the Christmas lights caused a fire in that EXACT time frame, JUST as she had gone out? And she conveniently returned as the blaze was out? Sorry I don’t buy it.

Also Christmas lights are actually very safe in this country, they go through rigorous testing and don’t just set a fire by themselves.
 
Shes been bailed.

Its just popped up on the news

Also again the Christmas lights are being mentioned. I wonder what they charge her with if it does turn out to be faulty lights
 

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