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Apparently they are visiting the One World Observatory in New York today with the mayor. And then they have the GlobalVax? thing to promote vaccine equity if I’m not mistaken. The British press are going to have a field day 😳

They were campaign chairs for GlobalVax in California. I think Harry is there to make a similar speech about vaccine equality- I don't know if he is getting paid for that.

I believe they are visiting the 9/11 memorial (at the one world observatory) so I doubt they will be paid for that- probably paying their respects and networking while they are in New York.

Harry said he wasn't scared of the British press anymore. 🤷‍♀️
 
I’m assuming Meghan and Harry earn a lot of money from the events/ventures that they are doing because I don’t see why they would deliberately put themselves through so much criticism against them without gaining anything from it.
I'm not sure they get quite the same amount of criticism in the US, which is where they now live, and where they are getting their exposure and probably income from. It's the British press who are rabid in their obsession with these two. They could easily decide not to report what they post on Instagram or whatever but the truth is, they don't want to stop talking about them. They can't stop mentioning Meghan and Harry because they know the story will get more traffic than any other Royal.

Also I don't think Harry and Meghan called the British public racist. They esentially called the press racist or "bigoted"? I think that's fair enough. The right wing media in this country makes the UK look terrible.
I agree. The whole interview was yes, criticisisng the Royal Family, but called the British press racist, which they are. The press are doing what they always do when they are criticised- deflect that criticism onto others to get themselves off the hook.
 
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I'm not sure they get quite the same amount of criticism in the US, which is where they now live, and where they are getting their exposure and probably income from. It's the British press who are rabid in their obsession with these two. They could easily decide not to report what they post on Instagram or whatever but the truth is, they don't want to stop talking about them. They can't stop mentioning Meghan and Harry because they know the story will get more traffic than any other Royal.

They don’t get as much criticism in US press but I follow a lot of popular American outlets on Instagram to get news on celebrities. Everytime Harry and Meghan are posted most of the comments are full of hatred. I feel like anytime I see Meghan and Harry posted anywhere it’s always full of criticism. The only place I see a lot of support is Twitter.
 
Meghan and Harry have an anti-fandom, I think they are called Megxiteers. A lot of them follow everything M&H do, go to every article they are mentioned in just to leave negativity. I think they are trying to sway public opinion against the couple. I have seen them all over social media. A lot of them have set up accounts just dedicated to hating Meghan. Some of them on Youtube etc. have quit their jobs because they make money off hating her. This is a good article on those types of people.

https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2021/06/10518195/megxit-meghan-markle-anti-fandom
 
They don’t get as much criticism in US press but I follow a lot of popular American outlets on Instagram to get news on celebrities. Everytime Harry and Meghan are posted most of the comments are full of hatred. I feel like anytime I see Meghan and Harry posted anywhere it’s always full of criticism. The only place I see a lot of support is Twitter.
Its possible to ignore celebrity gossip websites though, and they are always full of people slagging people off all over the place. I think their life must be a million times easier if just the press aren't constantly publishing critical stories about them, especially if they suspected that the Royals ( Harry's own family) were leaking the negative stories about them to the press in the first place. I do think they unneccessarily went on the wind up in the Oprah interview but the overreaction from both the Royal Family and everyone else was ridiculous even before that for two people who basically decided they didn't want to do a job anymore and wanted to move to a different country, as thousands of people decide every day. I suspect a lot of Palace courtiers have taken it upon themselves to cause mischief and have not been reprimanded for leaking things to the press so have continued with tacit approval. Harry is 6th in line to the Throne. His leaving would cause no constitutional problems whatsoever, yet Meghan is compared to Wallis Simpson who was the catalyst for the King abdicating! Harry was just saving himself from being the future Prince Andrew or Princess Margaret.
 
I'm not sure they get quite the same amount of criticism in the US, which is where they now live, and where they are getting their exposure and probably income from. It's the British press who are rabid in their obsession with these two. They could easily decide not to report what they post on Instagram or whatever but the truth is, they don't want to stop talking about them. They can't stop mentioning Meghan and Harry because they know the story will get more traffic than any other Royal.


I agree. The whole interview was yes, criticisisng the Royal Family, but called the British press racist, which they are. The press are doing what they always do when they are criticised- deflect that criticism onto others to get themselves off the hook.
Im sure there was some racism but if the British press were as racist as they claimed in the Oprah interview why then did Oprah's team need to doctor headlines and use articles from the US and Australia whilst implying it was only the British media, if it was so bad then all headlines would have been able to be reproduced undoctored from British media only.
 
Harry and Meghan have arrived at the One World Observatory, in New York.

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So. I watched the PP remembrance piece. Nice how they cut Andrew down to basically 3 sentences (and of course he had to mention that his daughters had the most perfect relationship to his father). Wiliam stood out to me in terms of screen time, but maybe my perception isn’t completely correct as I didn’t time it. Also Peter and Zara. It’s lovely to have many personal remarks but compared to other documentaries it falls a bit flat in terms of actual information. I mean, great they all loved him and felt they had a lovely relationship with him, but it leaves a small taste of good PR, look what a warm and loving family we are. For someone only “knowing” him from afar, there was very little substance.

I do wonder when they show H’s clips. Because some of the things he said sounded to against his stance now. Stiff upper lip seems a rather good, no nonsense, honest trait for example. Very different to the neglectful and cold that was highly shaped through generational pain (aka especially PP upbringing).

re: the ex-pats. They certainly talk a lot but we haven’t seen very much in actual results. No Netflix production, no podcast to highlight unheard voices, the 40/40 scheme - no follow up. How exactly do you me for one in 1x40min? And were there actually 40 women in the end? They did some smaller charity stunts but all of them where one timers to completely different topics. No bigger scope or deep dive like Sentebale, Invictus or Hubb (which I thought went great). Their biggest stunts where most definitely the Oprah interview and the me you can’t see, and bringing up their personal problems in everything that wasn’t about them. They look busy but there is a difference in being busy and being productive. They deserve their place on the Times list in that category but it would be a lie to say that their influence is all about the good.
And yes, their hypocrisy is seen more and more even with the wokest in the US. Especially the more they whine and the more the BRF just ignores them.
 
Meghan and Harry have an anti-fandom, I think they are called Megxiteers. A lot of them follow everything M&H do, go to every article they are mentioned in just to leave negativity. I think they are trying to sway public opinion against the couple. I have seen them all over social media. A lot of them have set up accounts just dedicated to hating Meghan. Some of them on Youtube etc. have quit their jobs because they make money off hating her. This is a good article on those types of people.

https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2021/06/10518195/megxit-meghan-markle-anti-fandom
there are also meghan stans that are just as obsessive about meghan and harry and leave negativity on anything the royal family post. i know because i'm acquaintances with one and all the batshit stuff she retweets comes on to my timeline. it's constant over the top positivity about the tiniest of things harry and meghan do and extreme negativity about the royal family. the extremity of the stans and the antis is insane. harry and meghan aren't the devil but they aren't angels either. i don't support them because it annoys me that harry's racism is continually brushed under the carpet by meghan which indicates to me that she doesn't care about racism or racist people unless it affects her. sort your own husband out first and then work on the monarchy! however, i also don't understand the obsessive nature of their stans and antis.
 
I agree with @Great_Kate insofar as I am also left wondering when H and M will do what they promised to do.

- Spotify podcast: One (in numbers: 1) episode in which celebs contributed. That's all! This is what I find the most baffling - they announce a podcast, even name it and then only produce one single episode???? Who would do that and why? I find this embarrassing.

- Netflix deal: How long does it take to produce something? They don't even have a trailer yet. Are they shooting anything?

- 40 for 40: Who were the 40?


They have done Oprah and this Apple series and the Bench book - which were all about them.
 
Its possible to ignore celebrity gossip websites though, and they are always full of people slagging people off all over the place. I think their life must be a million times easier if just the press aren't constantly publishing critical stories about them, especially if they suspected that the Royals ( Harry's own family) were leaking the negative stories about them to the press in the first place. I do think they unneccessarily went on the wind up in the Oprah interview but the overreaction from both the Royal Family and everyone else was ridiculous even before that for two people who basically decided they didn't want to do a job anymore and wanted to move to a different country, as thousands of people decide every day. I suspect a lot of Palace courtiers have taken it upon themselves to cause mischief and have not been reprimanded for leaking things to the press so have continued with tacit approval. Harry is 6th in line to the Throne. His leaving would cause no constitutional problems whatsoever, yet Meghan is compared to Wallis Simpson who was the catalyst for the King abdicating! Harry was just saving himself from being the future Prince Andrew or Princess Margaret.

To be honest, most people I know in real life, really don’t give them a seconds thought one way or the other. They are yesterday’s news (which is probably worse for them)

I could be wrong but I really don’t think the future of the Monarchy will be decided on the basis of social media sites, some hyperbolic YouTube videos and opinion pieces in The Side Bar of Shame.

like I say, could be wrong.
 
I agree with @Great_Kate insofar as I am also left wondering when H and M will do what they promised to do.

- Spotify podcast: One (in numbers: 1) episode in which celebs contributed. That's all! This is what I find the most baffling - they announce a podcast, even name it and then only produce one single episode???? Who would do that and why? I find this embarrassing.

- Netflix deal: How long does it take to produce something? They don't even have a trailer yet. Are they shooting anything?

- 40 for 40: Who were the 40?


They have done Oprah and this Apple series and the Bench book - which were all about them.
Agree they have been very 'me me me' and Harry seems to be the one who is most bitter about the whole thing, but I am not for paying them ( apart from through my Netflix subscription I suppose) so really, let them knock themselves out if Apple or whoever want to pay them £££. They wont be doing it for long if there is no return on their investment, and M & H will run out of road soon enough if they don't actually do what they say they will do.
I am reading 'And what do you do?' which was recommended on here, and it is outrageous the amount of allowances and how many tax dodges they have, all rubber stamped by people who are supposed to be acting in our best interests, like Parliament and the Courts, and even the Inland Revenue. They can get away with more or less whatever they like, can use barefaced hypocrisy and have an entire establishment covering up for them, yet no one can do anything about it.
 
I think the first podcast episode was just a holiday teaser. Developing and producing good content, and booking guests who have some kind of profile actually takes a lot of time. In comparison the Obamas' Spotify deal was announced in June 2019 and they released their first episode in July 2020, more than a year later. So I think M&H will probably be putting out content this winter.

The 40 people were all over social media at the time. A lot of them celebs (Sarah Paulson, Stacy Abrams, Gabrielle Union, Ciara, Sofia Carson, Hilary Clinton, Adele, Stella McCartney, and Amanda Gorman etc.)

I can’t name them all off the top of my head but typing 40x40 into insta or Twitter should give you that answer. A lot of ordinary people were also participating with the initiative through Linkedin. Archwell did a mini follow up on 40x40: https://archewell.com/story/40x40-join-the-global-change-happening-now/

But I think this initiative should get another follow up and maybe that’s coming.

With Netflix they have announced they are working on two things.- Harry’s sports doc called Heart of Invictus (profits from the series go to Invictus), Meghan an animated kids show named Pearl. Both things were announced this year so will probably be released 2-3 years from now.
 
I think the first podcast episode was just a holiday teaser. Developing and producing good content, and booking guests who have some kind of profile actually takes a lot of time. In comparison the Obamas' Spotify deal was announced in June 2019 and they released their first episode in July 2020, more than a year later. So I think M&H will probably be putting out content this winter.

The 40 people were all over social media at the time. A lot of them celebs (Sarah Paulson, Stacy Abrams, Gabrielle Union, Ciara, Sofia Carson, Hilary Clinton, Adele, Stella McCartney, and Amanda Gorman etc.)

I can’t name them all off the top of my head but typing 40x40 into insta or Twitter should give you that answer. A lot of ordinary people were also participating with the initiative through Linkedin. Archwell did a mini follow up on 40x40: https://archewell.com/story/40x40-join-the-global-change-happening-now/

But I think this initiative should get another follow up and maybe that’s coming.

With Netflix they have announced they are working on two things.- Harry’s sports doc called Heart of Invictus (profits from the series go to Invictus), Meghan an animated kids show named Pearl. Both things were announced this year so will probably be released 2-3 years from now.

What - teaser episode?
Teasing what? This was almost ten months ago!

There are so many podcasts and I haven't seen another one that only released a "teaser episode" and then took a year to produce another one.

And the Archewell site doesn't list the 40 mentors, it is more generic blabla with a few Insta pages and kind of testimonials.

I would also find it baffling if it would take 2-3 years to produce some Netflix stuff that other people turn around in six months, see Ricky Gervais with AfterLife or Reese Witherspoon with Morning Show.

I think they try to stir too many pots and got lost and they don't excel at anything.
 
I see that I am in the minority here but I like the fact that lot of the projects and causes M&H take up actually have visible results. Like them partnering and funding the kitchens for World Central Kitchen (3 out of the 4 kitchens have been built and are currently feeding in need people). Raising money and smashing their target for VaxLive as campaign chairs. Giving money to various organizations- like that women's shelter that needed a new roof.

Sometimes I feel like some of the BRF are pretending to care about charities and that they are just in it for the photo op. I think I read that having a royal patron doesn't do much in terms of improving donations to your charity. If having a royal at your charity doesn't increase funding then what is the point.

Teasing what? This was almost ten months ago!

hahaha calm down I am not on their podcasting team!
 
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