Anyways888
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This is hilarous! Why are the royals so bad at PR?
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Do not forget Harry, Archie and Lilibet are still 6th, 7th and 8th in the line of succession after Charles and William and his children and now above Andrew and his children and grandchildren. So Meghan will remain influential in the royal family through her husband and children, even if they no longer do royal duties her family are still heirs to the throne
Anyways888
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I wish they would stop trying to rehab Prince Andrew's image. No one wants him back in the public sphere. He should just handle his business with Virgina and then retire for good.
thegirlscout
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When he was giving an interview to the press after Phil died, eurgh…made my skin crawl.
I’d like to think this is just nothing but what I’ve learnt from tattle is the press are always hinting at something that can’t say with these kind of stories
that’s what I think.
his “brand ambassador” gig seems a bit wishy washy to me. I wonder if he didn’t have the connections from Eugenie would he have the same role? Jack is already from a pretty wealthy/aristocratic family anyway.
To dig a little deeper, the tequila brand he reps for, was founded by George Clooney in 2013. So presumably straight he started working there after his bar manager stint, and shortly after he began dating Eugenie.
It’s long been rumoured that George Clooney fancied a political career for himself, it’s allegedly why he married a human rights lawyer, curated a family image despite saying for years he never wanted kids. You’ll also note he was present at the Harkles wedding.
The tequila company was also co-founded by Rande Gerber - husband to Cindy Crawford and father to Kaia Gerber.
This tequila brand was taken over by a company named “Diageo” in 2017. Diageo itself was a merger of two companies, of which one was the infamous Guinness Brewery. The Guiness family themselves are still extremely wealthy and well connected. That mediocre Shrimps brand with the ugly fur coats and Pearl bags? The founder married into the Guinness family. There are no members of the Guinness family on the executive board, but I imagine that they still hold a lot of soft influence over the company, for obvious reasons.
In short, the elite are well connected and help each other out. Ultimately if you marry into the royal family you are set for life, you are gaining access to this network of wealth and influence. Adultery seems to be almost accepted in these circles, as someone else has just mentioned. There are few male royals it seems, who haven’t had rumours or outright evidence, of infidelity circle around them. I believe Prince Edward might be the only one I haven’t heard rumours about.
Now that Jack has married and has a baby with Eugenia, he has a lifelong link to the royal family, and their connections. I’d hazard a guess that’s why he is comfortable behaving that way on a yacht, despite having a new baby and a vulnerable wife back at home. His own grandmother told the tabloids he wasn’t that bright.
the York girls don’t have the best role models in their parents, and I don’t like their choice of husbands. They both give me the creeps but that’s just my opinion.
Anyways888
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It seems like neither Eugine or Beatrice made a love match- although I could be wrong. I feel like they thought time was ticking and they both settled down with whoever was nearest.
Beatrice's man was still living with the mother of his child when he got with her so she shouldn't really be surprised when he steps out.
Beatrice's man was still living with the mother of his child when he got with her so she shouldn't really be surprised when he steps out.
NonDairyQueen
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Agree both their husbands seem well dodgy. I suspect the girls were in love but the men saw a chance to marry into the Royal Family and neither they nor their parents did much due diligence or advise caution.
Yes I think they need to just leave it out now. Even before the Epstein story the reports of him ramming gates because they weren't opened fast enough for him and dropping things deliberately and ordering staff to pick them up makes me doubt that he actually did this. More like he would have watched the dog fall then blamed a servant!
that’s the impression I got too. Beatrice was with her ex for about a decade I think. He obviously wasn’t going to commit to her but enjoyed the perks of going out with a member of one of the most influential and prestigious families in the world.
they broke up in 2016. in Summer 2018, he’d married his partner of 2 years. So he’d gotten together with this women pretty rapidly after breaking up with Beatrice. I’ll hazard a guess they broke up either because of infidelity (due to the timelines) or because Beatrice was fed up of waiting.
I’m not a fan of Beatrice but geez, that must have stung. She supposedly got together with current hubby at her sisters wedding in 2018, a few months after her ex got married.
So I definitely think they both “settled” somewhat. I guess when you are that wealthy, famous, influential and so on… there’s no way to know for sure if someone actually loves you for yourself.
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Lady Frederick Windsor is better known as Sophie Winkleman, actress and half-sister of Claudia. Their father Barry describes himself as a non-practising Jew. Claudia's mother is also Jewish though I don't know about Sophie's.
Princess Michael's father Baron Günther von Reibnitz was both a member of the Nazi party and the SS as well as a WW1 cavalry veteran. He joined the Nazi party in 1930 and the SS cavalry in 1933. To be honest, he was pretty crap as a member of both in their eyes and was eventually chucked out (mainly for continuing to be Roman Catholic) and was investigated by the party before the war for 'denigrating the swastika flag'. He was found after the war to be a nominal party member and not a member of any organisation found to be criminal at Nuremberg. However, she has hit the headlines a few times for being a racist cow and I came across an article about her taking over the wedding from the Winklemans (who were paying) and making it far grander, to the extent that Lady Annabel Goldsmith, Freddie's godmother, had to pay for the buffet reception; however, none of the major royals actually accepted invitations. The bride was on record that she would have been happy to celebrate at Starbucks.
Eirawen
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No wonder she is nicknamed Princess Pushy!!Lady Frederick Windsor is better known as Sophie Winkleman, actress and half-sister of Claudia. Their father Barry describes himself as a non-practising Jew. Claudia's mother is also Jewish though I don't know about Sophie's.
Princess Michael's father Baron Günther von Reibnitz was both a member of the Nazi party and the SS as well as a WW1 cavalry veteran. He joined the Nazi party in 1930 and the SS cavalry in 1933. To be honest, he was pretty crap as a member of both in their eyes and was eventually chucked out (mainly for continuing to be Roman Catholic) and was investigated by the party before the war for 'denigrating the swastika flag'. He was found after the war to be a nominal party member and not a member of any organisation found to be criminal at Nuremberg. However, she has hit the headlines a few times for being a racist cow and I came across an article about her taking over the wedding from the Winklemans (who were paying) and making it far grander, to the extent that Lady Annabel Goldsmith, Freddie's godmother, had to pay for the buffet reception; however, none of the major royals actually accepted invitations. The bride was on record that she would have been happy to celebrate at Starbucks.
Andrew should remember he is over 60 now and stop playing hide and seek and man up.If ,as he states, he has done nothing wrong, why has he been so evasive for so long. That makes the situation worse and more suspicious.
Milliemoo99
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The Royal family is an old fashioned constitutional monarchy. And its hierarchy sees blood born relatives as much more important and influential than husbands or wives who have married in.
It took Prince Phillip years and years before he was allowed/encouraged to get involved in the DOE awards. Meghan is a new wife, so at the beginning and now her influence on BFR issues, would be zero.
So I dont think the BRf is a platform or springboard for causes at all.
Look at all the grief Charles has had over the years, when he has tried to advise on architectural design or homeopathy.
If the BRF arent toeing the party political agenda or popular zeitgeist of the time, then they arent popular and get into difficulties!
But Meghan has no influence at all now, so why would she have an influence in the future?
The BRF are a bit of an anomaly, they only have any power and influence because parliament allows it! Some of the reasons for the abdication of Edward V111 were that the government thought that he was totally unsuitable to inherit the crown.
TV shows like ''The Crown'' tend to gloss over this history, but I am sure I have read in a couple of places that things like Edward's sympathies for Hitler and the Nazi regime, were known about and disliked intensely. As was his image as a playboy prince, he was seen as only interested in partying and having fun with his friends. It was felt he wouldn't be interested in the day to day grind of being King! So he had no real choice but to abdicate!
The Kings Speech shows Edward as he was seen at the time, partying at Sandringham and flying around in his private plane.
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NonDairyQueen
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Yes I heard Wallis didn't really want to marry him, but the establishment kind of 'pushed' them together because they didnt think he was suitable to be King. However, much of the aristocracy quite liked Hitler in the 30's, and didn't think much of the 'natives' in the Colonies either.
thegirlscout
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I know I’m quoting myself but I think she looks so much like her father so I’m this photo all I can see is Andrew with cosmetic enhancements
Boring Monday
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There was a programme in BBC4(?) a while back about letters she had written to her ex-husband that had come to light and the take away was that she still rather loved him.
I think ther might have been a book as well.
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The secret letters Wallis Simpson wrote her former husband
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To be fair to Beatrice and Eugenie given their parents and despite their
At the moment not much no. If however a tragic accident or a terrorist attack killed Charles and the Cambridges and their family (obviously we hope that doesn't occur) then Harry would become King and Meghan would be Queen and Archie next in line to the throne.
Isa_Drennan
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If that were to happen the monarchy would more than likely come to an end.
Of course it wouldn't, it would continue down the hereditary line. If Meghan got the chance to be Queen of the UK (and Queen of Canada remember too) she would be back here like a shot measuring the drapes for Buckingham Palace before Harry had packed his toothbrush and chosen his crown
Blurp
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When Edward was king and up at Balmoral, he was due to open the new Aberdeen Royal Infirmary at Foresterhill. He plead illness on the day and it was opened by his brother the Duke of York, later George VI. The same day, Edward was seen at Aberdeen Joint Station collecting Wallis Simpson, not looking ill at all. That went down like a lead balloon in NE Scotland.
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50sGirl
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She may well think she can return but imho the British public would never accept her as Queen Consort and Henry as King. We are a bunch of racists according to her.
I’m a monarchist but in that instance I would wish for the end of the monarchy.
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