Strictly Come Dancing 2024 #38

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Chris was on the Graham Norton show this week. I didn't get to watch all of it yet but it convinced me that, as I have said all along, he is far more competitive about the whole thing than he wants to let on. It is amazing what he is achieving, in fairness.

I wanted Jamie to win. Now I don't care, so go for it Chris, Pete, whoever
 
Re-watched the Samba-athon quite a few times. I know nothing about dance, but why the hell did Jamie get booted off second?!?

But, even more outrageous to me was Tasha coming second. She was so stiff and all I saw was Aljaz manoeuvring her into position constantly while she stumbled into a few samba steps.

Yes, I know she is disadvantaged with her relying on her cochlear implants to hear the music, but Chris was chucked out first. No allowances were made for him.

It’s always mentioned whenever a professional dancer is given a place on the show that ‘they’ve never been trained in Latin/ballroom and it’s totally different to …… (insert whatever genre of dance they have trained in)’.

Well, that may well be true, but I recently watched ITT. Luba and Lauren were shown learning how to perform a traditional Irish dance. They both said they’d never done Irish dancing before. At the end of the segment they both performed the dance (alongside the rest of the troop) spectacularly. As I said earlier, I know nothing about any genre of dance, but if I didn’t know their faces, I would not have been able to pick the two of them out from the rest of the dancers as never having performed that style before.

There’s degrees of ‘ringahism’ and I don’t know where or how you draw the line. I don’t want to watch weeks and weeks of the likes of Nancy Dell’Olio, John Sergeant, Ann Widdecombe etc, but I do enjoy watching the likes of Pete, Montelle and even Paul Merson trying their best, improving and getting a lot of happiness from learning a new skill.

Tasha - I can’t say I’ve seen any improvement from week 1. She’s had better dances some weeks than others, but there’s been nothing to make me go ‘Wow, who’d have thought she could improve so much,’

She’s had her placed booked in the final from week 1, I can’t see anyone losing to her if ever she was in the bottom 2, and it doesn’t seem right to me.
 
I mean Strictly isn’t really a competition where the best dancer gets crowned the winner. If you accept it’s a popularity contest where other factors may influence the public vote (how someone comes across, improvement/a journey etc.) it makes it much less aggravating for people watching. I’d say the judges votes have much less sway on who the public votes for than some people are giving credit for, often those on the bottom get more votes e.g. Pete in Blackpool.
 
Fillyjonk said:
I think you could swap around all the female celebs' partners.

Sarah and Vito lack chemistry and he overcomplicates her routines.

Montell and Johannes lack chemistry and he doesn't seem to have put his usual effort into her routines.

Tasha and Aljaz lack chemistry and he doesn't seem up to the challenge.

You could also swap Sam, Toyah and... Er... Who was the other woman's partners.
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I agree the female partnerships have fallen flat this year, I wonder if the 2 females pulling out are the reason?
As well as making sure the celebs get the right pro they would want to make sure certain male Pros are front and center, there would be point in bringing Aljaz back to bench him and they certainly weren't going to bench last years winner.
 
LaBlonde said:
can you add in a paragraph to say that comparing his technique to gene kelly and criticising him for it filled me with such rage that i’m still thinking about it this morning? thank you 😘
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Literally the first thing I thought about when I opened my eyes! I could feel my blood pressure rising.

I don't think the judges sway people much, it is a popularity contest to some extent, but the judges' scores do manipulate the leaderboard and give some an impossible task. Fair enough if it was just popularity, but if you're going to pretend to have some expertise involved as well, at least do it fairly and consistently. There is no conceivable way that Chris was worth more than Jamie (or that Chris was worth the same as Tasha!).
 
dressinggownofdoom said:
I did it! I sent in a complaint. There will probably be an article about me in the Daily Mail: LIVID Strictly viewers send FROTHING complaints about depraved judges BULLYING of brave young Eastenders star!
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Strictly viewers FURY at Ghost Pasty treatment.

Oh, turns out they've already done one!

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Strictly fans accuse judges of 'down-marking' Jamie Borthwick

The EastEnders actor, 30, sent fans into overdrive after performing a Foxtrot with pro partner Michelle Tsiakkas to Ben E King's classic Stand By Me.
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What's the difference between musician and movie week though I remember they do grease for either and also didn't Gorka do hairspray for one of them.
I'm not keen on musicals per sa but I would want musical movies so like
Alijaz and Tasha dance to rewrite the stars
Maybe Montell and Johannas or even Vito and Sarah do good morning from singin in the rain
Nothing from Mary Poppins or grease
Pete and jowita can do consider yourself

You're welcome producers
 
kipperthedog said:
Re-watched the Samba-athon quite a few times. I know nothing about dance, but why the hell did Jamie get booted off second?!?

There’s degrees of ‘ringahism’ and I don’t know where or how you draw the line. I don’t want to watch weeks and weeks of the likes of Nancy Dell’Olio, John Sergeant, Ann Widdecombe etc, but I do enjoy watching the likes of Pete, Montelle and even Paul Merson trying their best, improving and getting a lot of happiness from learning a new skill.

Tasha - I can’t say I’ve seen any improvement from week 1. She’s had better dances some weeks than others, but there’s been nothing to make me go ‘Wow, who’d have thought she could improve so much,’

She’s had her placed booked in the final from week 1, I can’t see anyone losing to her if ever she was in the bottom 2, and it doesn’t seem right to me.
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I have only watched the samba-thon so far, from last night, and haven't watched closely, but half wondered did they call Chris off first as it was possibly quite a stressful situation for him. Jamie obviously stood on the judges (collective) corns being called off second.

Totally agree re Tasha. She seems to be a lovely woman, and all of that, but I mostly think I am watching two pros. Indeed she sometimes outdances pant...pant ... Aljaz. There's no excitement for me, in watching her performances. And it's not that I hold it against her that she is already so good. I ADORED Layton last year. My winner, tbh.

I felt with him - in addition to being such a joy to watch - that he had to learn to adapt to a different way of dancing, and of trusting Nikita, which was something they talked about. So there was a difference in him, as he went along. Plus his partnership with Nikita was fantastic.
 
ChastityDingle said:
I have only watched the samba-thon so far, from last night, and haven't watched closely, but half wondered did they call Chris off first as it was possibly quite a stressful situation for him. Jamie obviously stood on the judges (collective) corns being called off second.
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i feel like they would have always called chris first, like you say, just to get him out of the situation before it got more frantic. it would have been so tricky for diane to manage for him too.

i rewatched it this morning (the way vito and sarah start it is 🔥 and would recommend watching just for that!) and jamie getting called before pete was absolutely ridiculous. pete was having a great time but spent all of it waiting for jowita to shout the next move to him 🤣
 
OtherMoon said:
I agree the female partnerships have fallen flat this year, I wonder if the 2 females pulling out are the reason?
As well as making sure the celebs get the right pro they would want to make sure certain male Pros are front and center, there would be point in bringing Aljaz back to bench him and they certainly weren't going to bench last years winner.
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As I say before the whole female celebs was a disaster they got complacent celebs that wouldn't dare say boo to a goose and it's wrong. Just like letting Johannas dance to Beyonce's run the world. This series has just been a disaster wrong people kicked out IE Shayne twats staying ie Wynne celebs we have grown to love get giving stupid costumes so they can be like well it was tit ie Pete and Jamie it's just been a disaster of a series
 
On Jojo, I literally said to my sister as they were dancing last night “How is this the same man that made Annabelle Croft, a recently bereaved middle age woman, come alive on the dance floor? Yet with Montell, a young fit athlete.. there is no sparkle, pizazz or even joy when they dance!”

@UnresolvedYin I can’t find your post to quote it but I’m like you… I love to ‘feel’ the dance! The interaction, the palpation, the atmosphere a couple creates is more satisfying to me that point perfect routines.

Sarah and Tasha are perfectly capable dancers and I watched them both last night with awe at their technique. Based on that alone, Tasha deserved her 40.

But I described Jamie and Michelle in one word “soufflé” because it made me feel fluffy and happy. Chris did an awful paso but I still am astonished that he always manages to connect with Dianne after a turn/ solo moment and appreciate his efforts. I admittedly was a fan of Pete pre strictly, but just reading here I know I’m not wrong in thinking he’s improving and has fallen in love with dance. They make me feeeeeel something when they dance and tbh I’d be happy with them in the final 🤷🏼‍♀️
 
gdw1910 said:
It’ll be interesting to see how long Pete can hold on, and whether he could pip JB or Montell to the final. Tasha, Chris and Sarah and surely shoe-ins but if Pete has a good week we could see a JB/Montell dance off next week.
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i’m intrigued by this too. he truly must be getting a really big public vote and, while he’ll lose whatever DO he’s in, i could see him being in the final instead of montell or jb. or he’ll do the chris ramsey narrative of really likeable contestant but just not being able to make it over the final hurdle.
 
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