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Sprezza said:
Alright, calm down. I assumed it would go without saying that rape and death threats are totally unacceptable and unjustified. I was referring to her response to what happened with Giovanni during training, not any threats she's received since. She hasnt even given any specific examples of what he's done so can we even categorise it as emotional abuse? I'm just saying, of all the celebs complaining she most fits the bill of the stereotype of 'pampered celeb can't handle criticism' that gets thrown around.
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I completely disagree with your last point. I was always very vocal on this these threads about how much I hated Amanda but to me she doesn’t seem like that type at all. She has a successful acting career which i’m sure wasn’t always positive, she will have been criticized at multiple points throughout her years in the industry but remained booked for jobs and clearly learned from any criticism she was given.
 
It must be so hard for her that Zara has had support due to video evidence and more than likely because Graz was back in contact.
So far Amanda has gained nothing from this so I don't understand why so many won't believe anything she says. If the video footage shows nothing untoward surely the BBC and G would want it independently reviewed and commented on?
 
IdeletedbutI'mbackagain said:
I'm a 34 year old woman and I had a crush on Krishnan last year during Strictly, he just came across so lovely, he was the best part of every show he was in and he was, for me, the definition of what the show was about!! Not stripper poles, unnecessary jumps and near death dance moves, just joy at dancing 🩷🩷 I am crushing even harder now 😅
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The way Shirley treated Nigel last year still makes me deeply, deeply angry.
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I will admit when Krishnan was announced last year I was rolling my eyes, I didn’t really know anything about him other than recognizing him from the news and thought he would just be another boring newsreader who was a first boot … how wrong was I 😂 He was an absolute delight and his partnership with Lauren was perfect, the fact that he is still in touch with so many of the 2023 cast (both pros and celebs) speaks volumes.
 
There have been some reports about Sophie Ellis Bextor’s autobiography and I don’t know if outlets are presenting it in a certain way, but her husband does seem unhinged at points and gave me red flags.

‘All the while, Richard was feeling left out in the cold. He was worried he was losing me. Not that I was going to run off with anyone – he liked Brendan and knew that nothing was going to happen there – but I think he thought that something was awakening in me and he felt he wasn't part of my future. I never, ever felt like that, but I couldn't convince him. He could see that I was completely wrapped up in the show and consumed with the intensity of it and the constant learning, learning, learning which you share with one other person – your dance partner.’

‘Richard became unusually insistent on knowing where I was all the time. If I didn't reply to a text, he'd spiral…Supporting me in all that I do usually came so easily to him, but with Strictly I think he was just waiting for it to end. He'd message me all day when I was rehearsing, extra keen to know my schedule…We would argue when I was home about how distracted I was and about whether I'd get through to the next week. He just felt as if I might slip into a new life that left our family behind…I had no such desire, but was too spent at the end of the day to give the reassurance he needed. I think the only real reassurance could come with the show finishing.’

She also wrote that he began counselling a month into the show. She seems to blame herself for his behaviour (saying that she was too spent too keep giving him reassurances) and that he only felt reassured when she finished. Sophie and Richard have made a big show about how Richard trusted Brendan despite his previous notoriety but it seems from what Sophie wrote he didn’t trust his wife? He became almost obsessive over her.
 
thegirlscout said:
There have been some reports about Sophie Ellis Bextor’s autobiography and I don’t know if outlets are presenting it in a certain way, but her husband does seem unhinged at points and gave me red flags.

‘All the while, Richard was feeling left out in the cold. He was worried he was losing me. Not that I was going to run off with anyone – he liked Brendan and knew that nothing was going to happen there – but I think he thought that something was awakening in me and he felt he wasn't part of my future. I never, ever felt like that, but I couldn't convince him. He could see that I was completely wrapped up in the show and consumed with the intensity of it and the constant learning, learning, learning which you share with one other person – your dance partner.’

‘Richard became unusually insistent on knowing where I was all the time. If I didn't reply to a text, he'd spiral…Supporting me in all that I do usually came so easily to him, but with Strictly I think he was just waiting for it to end. He'd message me all day when I was rehearsing, extra keen to know my schedule…We would argue when I was home about how distracted I was and about whether I'd get through to the next week. He just felt as if I might slip into a new life that left our family behind…I had no such desire, but was too spent at the end of the day to give the reassurance he needed. I think the only real reassurance could come with the show finishing.’

She also wrote that he began counselling a month into the show. She seems to blame herself for his behaviour (saying that she was too spent too keep giving him reassurances) and that he only felt reassured when she finished. Sophie and Richard have made a big show about how Richard trusted Brendan despite his previous notoriety but it seems from what Sophie wrote he didn’t trust his wife? He became almost obsessive over her.
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To me he sounds like a narcissist
 
thegirlscout said:
There have been some reports about Sophie Ellis Bextor’s autobiography and I don’t know if outlets are presenting it in a certain way, but her husband does seem unhinged at points and gave me red flags.

‘All the while, Richard was feeling left out in the cold. He was worried he was losing me. Not that I was going to run off with anyone – he liked Brendan and knew that nothing was going to happen there – but I think he thought that something was awakening in me and he felt he wasn't part of my future. I never, ever felt like that, but I couldn't convince him. He could see that I was completely wrapped up in the show and consumed with the intensity of it and the constant learning, learning, learning which you share with one other person – your dance partner.’

‘Richard became unusually insistent on knowing where I was all the time. If I didn't reply to a text, he'd spiral…Supporting me in all that I do usually came so easily to him, but with Strictly I think he was just waiting for it to end. He'd message me all day when I was rehearsing, extra keen to know my schedule…We would argue when I was home about how distracted I was and about whether I'd get through to the next week. He just felt as if I might slip into a new life that left our family behind…I had no such desire, but was too spent at the end of the day to give the reassurance he needed. I think the only real reassurance could come with the show finishing.’

She also wrote that he began counselling a month into the show. She seems to blame herself for his behaviour (saying that she was too spent too keep giving him reassurances) and that he only felt reassured when she finished. Sophie and Richard have made a big show about how Richard trusted Brendan despite his previous notoriety but it seems from what Sophie wrote he didn’t trust his wife? He became almost obsessive over her.
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Her husband gives me massive red flags 😬
 
glasgow27 said:
Latest distraction technique - The Sun have just given us a name!

www.thesun.co.uk

Daytime TV legend signs for Strictly amid show scandal

DIY SOS star Nick Knowles has signed up for Strictly Come Dancing, The Sun can reveal. The presenter, 61, had been in talks with the BBC for months over appearing on the show. It is understood they…
www.thesun.co.uk

If we got Nick Knowles, then we can surely take out Martin Roberts. Obviously Bank of Dave is out, but these male rumours are deeply uninspiring.
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Oh no hope he doesnt get his guitar out and sing as part of one of his dances
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thegirlscout said:
There have been some reports about Sophie Ellis Bextor’s autobiography and I don’t know if outlets are presenting it in a certain way, but her husband does seem unhinged at points and gave me red flags.

‘All the while, Richard was feeling left out in the cold. He was worried he was losing me. Not that I was going to run off with anyone – he liked Brendan and knew that nothing was going to happen there – but I think he thought that something was awakening in me and he felt he wasn't part of my future. I never, ever felt like that, but I couldn't convince him. He could see that I was completely wrapped up in the show and consumed with the intensity of it and the constant learning, learning, learning which you share with one other person – your dance partner.’

‘Richard became unusually insistent on knowing where I was all the time. If I didn't reply to a text, he'd spiral…Supporting me in all that I do usually came so easily to him, but with Strictly I think he was just waiting for it to end. He'd message me all day when I was rehearsing, extra keen to know my schedule…We would argue when I was home about how distracted I was and about whether I'd get through to the next week. He just felt as if I might slip into a new life that left our family behind…I had no such desire, but was too spent at the end of the day to give the reassurance he needed. I think the only real reassurance could come with the show finishing.’

She also wrote that he began counselling a month into the show. She seems to blame herself for his behaviour (saying that she was too spent too keep giving him reassurances) and that he only felt reassured when she finished. Sophie and Richard have made a big show about how Richard trusted Brendan despite his previous notoriety but it seems from what Sophie wrote he didn’t trust his wife? He became almost obsessive over her.
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I remember reading in her autobiograohy that she got pregnant 6 weeks after they got together and said that when they married him she still barely knew him. They obviously stayed together and had 4 more kids but he sounds very insecure which is ironic considering he is a musician who must go away on tour for weeks at a time ( he was in the feeling).
 
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House of Tea said:
Surround yourself with people who fight for you in rooms you aren’t in.

Ok Shirl. Gio was nice to her mum y’know. He couldn’t possibly be abusive.
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I should send this to Shirley. Is she really so dim that she has no idea why she, a judge on the panel, would never see his bad side. Not a bleeping clue does she have. Gullible idiot.
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I've not had a chance to watch the whole interview yet, but in the clips I've seen, Amanda is clearly extremely distressed. This is not the behaviour of someone making up allegations. I believed her beforehand, but it's just baffling that anyone who watches that can continue to dismiss what she says. It's possible not to agree with Amanda on some issues, but absolutely believe her and support her when she's experienced such horrible treatment

And Shirley can get in the bin with all her cryptic nonsense and 'he's always nice to my mother' bs

When news of Amanda taking legal action first came out, wasn't the official BBC line was that they were unaware of the issues mentioned as Amanda hadn't raised them directly with them? So that wasn't the case then, if they knew there were issues from week 1

A few people should definitely be losing their jobs over this. I just find it mind-blowing that if there were multiple complaints over the years, not only that they kept renewing Giovanni's contract, but that he continued to be a favourite of the producers!
 
You know it's possible for rapists and murderers to not rape and murder every person they meet, so I hate it when people say 'they were perfectly nice to me'....

Well yes, obviously. You shouldn't disregard victim's experiences because they are in a minority compared to everyone else in the world.

Sharing your story of abuse, in any way, is not fun and despite the odd cases of people who have lied to Police or whatever (often with MH or trauma background), people speak up for justice or to just prevent someone else having the same experience or worse.

Not sharing footage to her legal team is 🚩🚩🚩 if you ask me. Clearly something to hide...
 
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Brady said:
You know it'd possible for rapists and murderers to not rape and murder every person they meet, so I hate it when people say 'they were perfectly nice to me'....

Well yes, obviously. You shouldn't disregard victim's experiences because they are in a minority compared to everyone else in the world.
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I have said this elsewhere, but in safeguarding training this was drilled into us: abusers groom their communities JUST AS MUCH as their victims. It's how they camouflage themselves... and keep abusing undetected.
 
thegirlscout said:
There have been some reports about Sophie Ellis Bextor’s autobiography and I don’t know if outlets are presenting it in a certain way, but her husband does seem unhinged at points and gave me red flags.

‘All the while, Richard was feeling left out in the cold. He was worried he was losing me. Not that I was going to run off with anyone – he liked Brendan and knew that nothing was going to happen there – but I think he thought that something was awakening in me and he felt he wasn't part of my future. I never, ever felt like that, but I couldn't convince him. He could see that I was completely wrapped up in the show and consumed with the intensity of it and the constant learning, learning, learning which you share with one other person – your dance partner.’

‘Richard became unusually insistent on knowing where I was all the time. If I didn't reply to a text, he'd spiral…Supporting me in all that I do usually came so easily to him, but with Strictly I think he was just waiting for it to end. He'd message me all day when I was rehearsing, extra keen to know my schedule…We would argue when I was home about how distracted I was and about whether I'd get through to the next week. He just felt as if I might slip into a new life that left our family behind…I had no such desire, but was too spent at the end of the day to give the reassurance he needed. I think the only real reassurance could come with the show finishing.’

She also wrote that he began counselling a month into the show. She seems to blame herself for his behaviour (saying that she was too spent too keep giving him reassurances) and that he only felt reassured when she finished. Sophie and Richard have made a big show about how Richard trusted Brendan despite his previous notoriety but it seems from what Sophie wrote he didn’t trust his wife? He became almost obsessive over her.
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Why do the women always have to support men? He sounds deranged. She was exhausted. Presumably bringing in a lot of money into the household, but he needed his brow soothed.

I watch a design programme with Alan Carr (not the Amanda Holden one). And one year a contestant won, and afterwards she revealed her fiancé behaved in quite the same manner as Sophie. So whilst she was given the opportunity of her life, in an already tense situation, her fiancé made it all about him. She cried a lot on the programme and I felt guilty for thinking pull yourself together, not realising the tit she was dealing with at home too. Unsurprisingly they split.
 
posy said:
Yep all linked to GDPR. Amanda’s team requested the footage via a subject access request but as the footage doesn’t just relate to her and contains other people (Gio), therefore, Gio’s permission is needed to show the footage that contains him. As he hasn’t given it, the only way the BBC could release it is by redacting the footage that he is in. Which would pointless. I believe they can go to the Information Commissioner’s Office and contest but I’m not sure it would be upheld.
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If a crime has possibly been committed, would that not override GDPR? Just curious...
 
I haven't seen Amanda's interview. I've seen images but not listened to any audio mainly because I've got my own issues at work just now and I feel it would be too "triggering" for me.

But can I ask a few questions

Has the investigation been concluded?

Has the BBC seen the 50hrs of video?

Judging by the comments on here Amanda was complaining about Gio from early on. What did producers do about the complaints/him.

I've been open about being a Gio fan from the beginning but that doesn't blind me to the fact that he's a dick/hole. But there's a difference between being a dick/hole and being a thug.

Im sure Amanda is well used to dealing with dicks - she was with Martin Freeeman for years - but nobody should have to deal with thugs. And if it's proved that Gio has a long reputation for being a thug, all production staff who've enabled him should be shown the door.

I'm still of the opinion there needs to be police involvement for Gio and Graz.

And finally I'd like to say something a bit controversial.

I think the abuse Amanda has suffered is awful and shouldn't happen to anyone. However I think it's wrong to say that she's suffered this abuse solely from deranged "beryl's" (another derogatory name for women which can sit beside Karen)

I think her abusers will fall into a number of groups.

1 - Uber Gio fans who think he cam do no wrong and Amanda is making stuff up and is in general a mad woman

2 - Uber Strictly fans who want to promote the one big happy family ĺie

3 - people who already hated Amanda because she's a terf and who are pleased to have another stick to beat her with (there where quite a few people on these threads who weren't happy she'd been signed up for strictly because of her views)

4 -.and I think this is the biggest group - Social Media nutjobs who love a "pile on" Probably half of them have never heard of strictly and have no view about what happened but just love the opportunity to send threats to women on the Internet.

I love(d) strictly and have watched from the beginning but feel I don't have the heart to watch this year.
 
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