Strictly Come Dancing 2024 #11

Should this years SCD be scrapped?

  • Yes

    Votes: 170 35.5%

  • No

    Votes: 238 49.7%

  • Not sure

    Votes: 71 14.8%
  • Total voters
    479
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House of Tea said:
One think that Graz is supposed to have said was that the pros were under increasing pressure to bring in the 9s and 10s. I can believe that. Hence the rise of the Super Ringers. There have always been ringers on this show, but in the last few years all pretence has gone. You have people that have danced for a living on the show with the ability to do more and more complex routines, which the Zaras and Tony Adams would never have a hope in hell of emulating. The sheer joy when Hamza and Bill Bailey won. Two guys - not particularly fit - amateurs - showing a proper “journey” of improvement. These are the people you get invested in. Not the ones who look like pros themselves.
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I've been reflecting on all of this and we have all (me) complained about the producer over-interference in the process.
It must be an absolute pressure-cooker to work in. They have very little time to execute what is intricate and time-consuming work. We've seen examples where over-ambition, given the time constraints, has actually resulted in injury on more than one occasion.

Not that any of that excuses what Graziano did to Zara, who on reflection was an absolute pro this series given what was going on. She should not have had to put a brave face on and I'm glad that they are taking steps to improve supports for the contestants. I'm glad they didn't dismiss what he did to her.

The dance world may well be harsh, but that is not an excuse for treating your partners (your work colleagues!) with disrespect. Even if borderline abusive behaviour is normalised, or tolerated, in the dance world (which is absolutely wild and I can imagine what that does to your psyche - and your teaching methods) you are dancing with a non-pro on a light entertainment show. Not everyone is going to be a champion dancer, but anyone could potentially be a pleasure to watch develop!
 
After finding out about Graz, it could be any of the former pro dancers. The friendly caring smiley act he convincingly put on, in contrast to the vile nasty abusive bully he really is :mad: It makes me doubt my own judgement.
You have former pros who seemed stroppy, like James and Brendan.
Ones who seemed slick and charming, like Vincent.
Ones who seemed like kind and caring teachers, like Ian or Pasha.
I have no idea if it was one of them or someone else, maybe they’re all just playing a part.
I have loved Strictly for years, but it really feels tarnished now :(
 
ChastityDingle said:
What an appalling fucking thing to say. She really sickens me anyway, Lorraine Kelly.

I remember reading probably on her thread here about her making a really flippant remark to a couple who were on her show. The woman had breast cancer, which was the reason for the interview and LK made some really stupid, crass comment, and the couple were left dumbfounded.
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Last year Lorraine made an inappropriate comment to Nick Jonas about having more children... I thought that was really rude of her. I felt really sorry for Nick, it was such an awkward interview...

www.express.co.uk

Lorraine slammed over 'painful' interview as viewers spot 'awkward' question

Lorraine viewers were left less than impressed with the Scottish presenter after her chat with the boyband Jonas Brothers. It comes as the 63-year-old was quick to mention their children before commenting one of them was "slacking".
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Mentioning how Kevin and Joe both have two daughters, the ITV host was quick to highlight how Nick was the odd one out.
Lorraine added: “Come on you’re slacking, you’ve only got one, what’s going on?”
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I also remember her skinny shaming Joe Sugg when he did Strictly, I think she has a such a bitchy side to her. She's very fake.
 
glasgow27 said:
I guess in the moment it doesn't register with you as much as in hindsight. Perhaps that's what happened with Zara, it took being out of the bubble to realise it.
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He was very charming as well, so she probably doubted herself. As I said upthread, if abusers were nasty all of the time, nobody would be taken in by them. She saw the backlash Amanda received and probably thought it was easier to say nothing. And if I remember correctly she wasn't the one who raised it, in the end. Poor lass, what a fcuk up of an experience.
You're standing there all lovey dovey looking for the cameras and it's a different story altogether behind the scenes. Her head must have been fried.

I mentioned on the previous thread that she cried one night after avoiding the dance off, and honestly it makes me wonder now. It was in the Clauditorium and as Claudia was speaking to someone else, she suddenly realised that Zara was crying quietly. She said it was with happiness but now I'm wondering.

I may say that I, like many others, was thoroughly and absolutely taken in by Graziano. Would almost have rated him as highly, not quite, but almost as highly as JoJo, as being a really nice, caring guy. Thought oh Annabel is in safe hands for the tour. I bet Annabel didn't see the side that Zara saw. It's chilling actually to think about.
 
I wonder did the poor girl not even tell Sam? Or was he in the jungle then? I completely understand why she maybe felt like she couldn’t unfollow him on social media and felt compelled to be all pally afterwards or maybe he gaslit her in to thinking this behaviour is normal for the show but I can’t imagine Sam being OK going along with all that. I really feel for her.
 
soccergirl said:
A third male pro implicated by Amanda's lawyers: no longer part of the show. Brendan? James? Artem? (Fern already complained) (Please not Pasha!)

www.thesun.co.uk

Strictly probes THIRD professional dancer with star's name given to lawyers

A THIRD pro dancer has been identified as a “person of interest” in the probe into Strictly Come Dancing. Insiders said the name of the male dancer, who is no longer part of the BBC show, had been …
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If it’s apparently come from Carter Ruck, would it not be someone who was involved in Ranvir or Laura’s series? Weren’t they the other two people making complaints alongside Amanda. Male pros from 2016/2020 no longer on the show would be Brendan, AJ, Kevin and Pasha.
 
People (not here) keep asking why she seemingly remained friends with him etc, but there seems to me a strong chance that he was the one pushing a friendship, that outside of the times he was abusing her was acting nice as pie to her, acting like besties etc. I could well imagine her being utterly confused about it all and sort of getting swept along with it. So much so that she was probably second guessing it all and wondering if she was over thinking it because he was so nice to her/everyone else the rest of the time
 
gdw1910 said:
If it’s apparently come from Carter Ruck, would it not be someone who was involved in Ranvir or Laura’s series? Weren’t they the other two people making complaints alongside Amanda. Male pros from 2016/2020 no longer on the show would be Brendan, AJ, Kevin and Pasha.
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I think that they were asking for others in general to come forward. So it could be eg Fern coming forward about Artem. Would all be part of their case against the show.

The story says a male so it’s not Flavia, thankfully
 
Boogs said:
I don’t think it should be scrapped. That would be punishing all the staff that work on it and reliant on the money - assuming that includes the brave whistleblowers.
I do think they need to make a stand though. I think the boss should go as should the head judge who has been unprofessional not just in her nasty biased judging but also her recent comments about FR.
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Weirdly I’ve never seen an Argentine Tango that involves spitting on your dance partner. Maybe that’s one for the after show BDSM polyamorous orgies (the real strictly scandal 🤫)
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I think it is time it got scrapped.
My ex worked on it in the past.
He worked for the BBC and was still paid when series ended! He just moved on....
 
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