Strictly Come Dancing 2024 #11

[Boogs]

His perfect partner is a mirror.

That he can bogle in front of.

 

[OtherMoon]

I felt sick reading that I have never doubted what happened but reading the details like following Zara screaming at her so bad she would hide in the bathroom and cry behind curtains is just beyond losing his temper because he's desperate to win' that's the behaviour of an abuser. Also with comments like 'have you put on weight' when she's wearing skin tight costumes is so nasty and manipulative.
And he wonders why she couldn't improve her dance skills when she was likely in survival mode.

 

[Shesaidwhat?]

That he can bogle in front of.

 

[Woolmercardington]

... since the last Strictly scandal.

 

[jackolantern]

That article makes for very upsetting reading my god poor Zara, begs the question why the fuck nothing was done sooner when clearly multiple staff witnessed it

 

[House of Tea]

If I was a celeb who had signed for this year, I would be wondering what I was letting myself in for. On the one hand people are going to be on their best behaviour, but it will be an unnatural experience. People tiptoeing around trying to avoid the elephant in the ballroom.

 

[ButtonDownTheHutches]

Gio said the same to Rose re dead grandma - think he said something along the lines of my grandma has more energy than you and she is dead - Rose just laughed him.

Weird coincidence. I wonder if it’s a Sicilian saying?

 

[Okgolightly]

Craig rocks up on a Saturday night, has a class of Sauv Blanc, looks at the live feed from Vito's dressing room his notes and reads a few texts from Bruno.

God, apparently Graziano screamed abuse at Zara till she hid in the toilets. I can't believe his image was so successful. I do worry about his wife

Shock details of how 'aggressive' Di Prima treated Zara McDermott revealed

GRAZIANO Di Prima screamed so angrily at Strictly dance partner Zara McDermott that she fled and locked herself in a loo, sources claimed last night. The sacked pro is also accused of telling her: …

www.thesun.co.uk

Truly horrible reading. Poor Zara. And the comment about him asking her if she’d gained weight, my god. What a nasty twat. You’d have thought if production were hearing him shouting through closed doors they’d have intervened- but oh no because he stopped when they went in it was fine they should all be fire for a lack of care and negligence!

 

[ChastityDingle]

And the comment about him asking her if she’d gained weight, my god. What a nasty twat.

That is so shitty. Well all of it is.

But I remember a bitch I worked with years ago, who knew exactly how to hone in on things that people might be particularly sensitive about. She tried that weight thing with every woman in the place. She asked me one time if I had lost 'loads of weight'. I was a size 10/12. My weight didn't vary much. I said I didn't know that I had 'loads of weight' to lose.
She never tried it again on me.

 

[Minnietred]

A throwaway comment comparing someone to a grandma is insulting but it could be easily put down to cultural differences i.e. a well-known but harmless Sicilian phrase.

Graz is the worst type of abuser, able to put on a show and convince everyone how lovely he is in public whilst his private behaviour is chilling to the bone.
Before unfollowing him I took a look at some of his previous videos on SM, and with hindsight can see controlling vibes - his wife is always there ready to put on a show of unity and love towards him. I hope she has a good support network around her, cos she needs to get away from that abusive prick asap.

 

[Beth1980]

Not defending what Graz, and whoever else,has done but the producers /BBC need to be called out too. If the media reports are true (as they do like click bait headlines) there has been issues that celebs and pros have brought up but not really dealt with.

 

[Rachw84]

Strictly's first female pro dancer under fire over alleged bullying

THE first female professional dancer has been become embroiled in Strictly’s misconduct scandal. The unnamed dancer is facing allegations of “bullying” from an ex celebrity partne…

www.thesun.co.uk

I am getting Karen vibes. Firey South American personality.

I was thinking Karen and Will Young

Karen Clifton and Will Young’s bitter feud and most explosive Strictly fall outs

Feuds have escalated into screaming matches, quitting and even rumours of violence in the Strictly ballroom

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[glasgow27]

I was thinking Karen and Will Young

Karen Clifton and Will Young’s bitter feud and most explosive Strictly fall outs

Feuds have escalated into screaming matches, quitting and even rumours of violence in the Strictly ballroom

www.mirror.co.uk

Something definitely went south with this pairing, all of the tabloids reported this story after he withdrew:

Will Young 'didn't show up to rehearsals after Karen's 6-hour trip'

According to reports, the 37-year-old singer wanted to practise close to his Cornwall home rather than in London and asked Karen to make the 12-hour round trip from the capital.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Seems like communication really broke down between them, putting it politely.

 

[Sibz]

I was thinking Karen and Will Young

Karen Clifton and Will Young’s bitter feud and most explosive Strictly fall outs

Feuds have escalated into screaming matches, quitting and even rumours of violence in the Strictly ballroom

www.mirror.co.uk

Karen was the first pro that I thought of when I saw the words "female pro dancer misconduct" I'm sure we're not alone

 

[SeraSparkle]

I think the dead grandma comment said during a training session is one thing but saying it when she has been voted off the show and is upset? That’s not about joking around to get her to improve that’s about humiliation and rubbing salt in the wounds.

Even in the training room it could be utterly demoralising if you're not the personality type to take well to insults as a form of motivation (and if you don't have that kind of rapport anyway)

I cannot believe Zara was dealing with all of this and still had to show up every day to do her job.

Also, though, do none of the pros realise that they may well teach people who have never danced before? And that their job is, yes, to make an improvement, but you're not gonna change a novice dancer onto a world champion in 3 months?

 

[House of Tea]

Will Young said he wasn’t in a good headspace when he did SCD. I don’t think that was anything to do with Karen. He was advised not to do the show by doctors, he was already having panic attacks before he went in. I am sure she is a hard teacher but he should not have taken part.

Giovanni must be loving all this. The rumours started with him. Ramped up with Graz. And now every dancer is going to get accused of something to the point that the original Gio and Graz misdemeanours will be diluted and downplayed.

 

[ChastityDingle]

Also, though, do none of the pros realise that they may well teach people who have never danced before? And that their job is, yes, to make an improvement, but you're not gonna change a novice dancer onto a world champion in 3 months?

Some of them do, I think. Probably most of them, to be fair.
Although I find it hard now to trust my own opinions of any of them. Because I was thoroughly taken in by Graziano.

But on that same series, Nikita Kanda, who was never going to get very far, seemed to have a genuinely good experience with Gorka. I used to enjoy their performances. They were upbeat and looked like fun.

I believed Les Dennis when he said that he had a great experience on Strictly with Nancy too. I think most of the pros know when it's a case of 'okay we will be out early, but let's give it a go.'

Katya has had more than her fair share of those who definitely won't win, but she always tries to make them believe in themselves, and do the best that they can, imo.

 

[Status:PiningTheBog]

A throwaway comment comparing someone to a grandma is insulting but it could be easily put down to cultural differences i.e. a well-known but harmless Sicilian phrase.

Graz is the worst type of abuser, able to put on a show and convince everyone how lovely he is in public whilst his private behaviour is chilling to the bone.
Before unfollowing him I took a look at some of his previous videos on SM, and with hindsight can see controlling vibes - his wife is always there ready to put on a show of unity and love towards him. I hope she has a good support network around her, cos she needs to get away from that abusive prick asap.

Exactly this. I work in a professional kitchen, professional chefs, professional front of house. high pressure, high volume, we call each other all sorts in both jest and under pressure, it kind of goes hand in hand with the buzz and the pace, of a high pressure environment that makes the cogs turn, we work together 50 hours a week and we laugh about it over a beer after service and honestly, our performance as a team would be worse off without it. If you’ve never worked in an environment like this, you couldn’t understand it, it’s savage banter.
The difference is knowing not to call the work experience kid/19 year old part time waitress a fucking cunt, because that would obviously not be ok, we know where to draw the line. And kicking/hitting/spitting is obviously off limits to EVERYONE. It’s insane to me that the dance industry is similar to mine in terms of being brutal, but they haven’t monitored and adapted and educated for something that will be shown on the BBC.

 

[Glaschelle]

For the female pro, my first thought was Ola and Steve Backshall. There were rumours he accused her of bullying years ago.

Someone needs to go through every series of Strictly and find the '"contestant wasn't happy story"

I'll go first

Series one - Natasha Kaplinsky complained her toenails fell off due to training. The BBC forced her to do the show and she also said she tried to break her ankle so she get out of it.

Series two - brendan Cole said his partner Sarsh Manners was a ladette and it was like dancing with a brick wall. She says he was right to be strict but there are ways to be more supportive.

Series 3 - Brendan again!!! Fiona phillips says he looked at her like something he'd stepped in. And he's filmed ranting at the cameras.

I've said several times on these threads - I've no idea why so many of you think this is just a fun Saturday show. It's been gladitorial since the very beginning.

 

[diamondthunder]

I think the grandma comment must be an Italian saying, Nikita said it to Tilly as well.

The comments about her weight are what really appall me. I remember seeing a clip of them in a radio interview with Sam Thompson, where he said something about Zara having once told him he'd let himself go, and Graz gasped and said to Zara "I thought you were a nice person." Even at the time it slightly set off a red flag at the back of my brain - no one's that nice to have any business being so judgey. But I still never could have imagined how bad it was, even if I did think on occasion that he was laying the niceness on a little thick. It's terrifying he could keep up such a convincing mask. Absolutely horrifying that he was bullying her about her weight at the same time and she kept having to smile for the cameras.