Strictly Come Dancing 2024 #10

[ChastityDingle]

What a trooper Graziano is. Despite struggling with managing his anger this year he managed to do the arena tour, followed by his own tour (good timing on that) followed by the professionals tour followed by holidays. When would he have time to address his anger management issues?

Well, indeed!

He is making himself look even worse talking about anger management. I am sure that it is stressful, most jobs are.
But if he knew that he had anger management issues, he should have asked to be replaced, and gone away to address them.

If the producers knew, then he should not have been left alone for five minutes in a room with anyone. Never mind as has been pointed out, going on to do other tours, and being included in the line up for this year. Until now, that is.

I am willing to bet he controlled his anger issues when partnering Annabel on the tour. He had all but moved in with Kym Marsh's family, betimes, so presumably he played the nice guy role with Kym too.

I am still incredulous that he was able to keep up that act, and fool so many people. If I had been asked who I thought a story like this would emerge about, he would have been one of the last on my list.

It actually turns my stomach to think of what some of the participants have gone through, behind closed doors, over the years, and then had to smile and pretend everything was fine onscreen.

And when they speak out, as Amanda did, they end up taking so much flak and downright abuse. Then people ask why did nobody speak up before. Gosh, I can't think why...

 

[soccergirl]

How’s this going down on Strictly Twitter? I used to constantly get suggested tweets from the teenage girls with fan accounts for some reason, but I’ve since been banned from Twitter for being mean about a rapist () so I can’t look for myself anymore.

Some devastation as far as I can see.

Also some in-fighting: girlies being accused of being hypocrites for denouncing Graziano while posting about having gone to Anton and Gio's tour. I saw one defend herself by saying they only went to support Anton..

 

[Boogs]

The funny thing with these poor men who struggle to manage their anger is that it’s only around certain people. They have no issue controlling their anger around others

 

[Skyflier6727]

I feel so sorry for Zara. I wasn’t a massive fan when she was on Strictly as she wasn’t very good but you could tell she was so anxious to please Graz. Could never see the attraction of him myself - always looked like he needed a good scrub.

 

[ChastityDingle]

The funny thing with these poor men who struggle to manage their anger is that it’s only around certain people. They have no issue controlling their anger around others

Exactly.

Was he able to control it better around Kym for example, because he knew she would take no crap, and she put in some really good performances, hmmm .

Every year there are going to be contestants that are clearly not going to get very far. Nikita Kanda, Zara and Les were the obvious ones that year. If a pro suffers anger management issues, because their partner has no chance of winning, then they just shouldn't be a part of the show. End of.

 

[ButtonDownTheHutches]

Absolutely. I'm very sceptical about this supposed "monumental amount of abuse". Let's face it, when the story broke (and into the following day) the groundswell of support was for Graz, particularly on IG. I think she's just trying to glean sympathy as she was quick enough herself to support him.

Do feel really sorry for the kid, though.

Yeah, I’m extremely sceptical too. So so many questions marks around this woman and her crappy parenting.

 

[jackolantern]

Has James opened his yappy mouth yet? He better hope he doesn't and stay in the dark thanking his lucky bleeping stars he was on the show when the world was a different place. I can only imagine how little the surface was scratched of how awful he was to his partners.

 

[daisybrown]

How’s this going down on Strictly Twitter? I used to constantly get suggested tweets from the teenage girls with fan accounts for some reason, but I’ve since been banned from Twitter for being mean about a rapist () so I can’t look for myself anymore.

The ones I follow - initial shock when stuff started to break then complete backing of Zara. No victim blaming and a complete understanding that just because we like someone does not mean they are nice to everyone. I have been pleasantly surprised but I have not delved deeper in to Twitter!

 

[ChastityDingle]

Yeah, I’m extremely sceptical too. So so many questions marks around this woman and her crappy parenting.

Exactly.

Ideal for a Daily Mail sad faced story, with the mother bemoaning that people were nasty to her seven year old on social media. I can see it already.

While anyone with an ounce of cop on is thinking, WTF was a seven year old doing on social media! Oh yes, that would be down to extremely crappy, irresponsible parenting.

 

[Kimbob]

there's been victim blaming on the FB group run by Vicky, all she's done is close comments then start a new post basically a lot of tit about Zara being best friends with him and she didn't work hard so he was just frustrated and passionate about the show. frankly they can all join him in the bin! anyone who thinks all this is fine to do needs to give there heads a bleeping good wobble

there is a few that have called people out for it all but not enough

 

[daisybrown]

there's been victim blaming on the FB group run by Vicky, all she's done is close comments then start a new post basically a lot of tit about Zara being best friends with him and she didn't work hard so he was just frustrated and passionate about the show. frankly they can all join him in the bin! anyone who thinks all this is fine to do needs to give there heads a bleeping good wobble

there is a few that have called people out for it all but not enough

There are similar on the Zara thread on here. I have given up on facebook groups - even the no criticism threads are victim blaming.

 

[Gym&Tonic]

The Strictly Facebook groups are complete hell holes filled with boomer and older gen X ladies who are riddled with homophobia, racism and internalized misogyny. Think the female version of the male gammon types,

 

[ButtonDownTheHutches]

The funny thing with these poor men who struggle to manage their anger is that it’s only around certain people. They have no issue controlling their anger around others

Yeah, it’s funny how they always manage to control their anger with people who are in a position or authority over them, or with other men who have the capacity to deck them.

 

[Boogs]

Has James opened his yappy mouth yet? He better hope he doesn't and stay in the dark thanking his lucky bleeping stars he was on the show when the world was a different place. I can only imagine how little the surface was scratched of how awful he was to his partners.

Of course although not till late last night which made some people think another pro was gone He is such a thoroughly unpleasant man who really shouldn’t throw stones from his glass house. If he was still there now behaving the way he did he’d be another one out.

 

[jackolantern]

What is it about handsome men that makes some women incapable of believing they can do any wrong? We've said it before but if it was an ugly bastard noone would be running to his defence. I don't understand it, why does good looks have any bearing on character?
---

Of course although not till late last night which made some people think another pro was gone He is such a thoroughly unpleasant man who really shouldn’t throw stones from his glass house. If he was still there now behaving the way he did he’d be another one out.

Please reply to him and say, dunno babe, you tell us saying as you were one of the founders of cunts r us?

 

[ChastityDingle]

Of course although not till late last night which made some people think another pro was gone He is such a thoroughly unpleasant man who really shouldn’t throw stones from his glass house. If he was still there now behaving the way he did he’d be another one out.

I said last week when it was rumoured that another story was about to emerge, that I hoped he was listening out for a knock on his door.

 

[MidCenturyMadOne]

I’ve seen some of the ones accusing others of hypocrisy. It’s all going to be a bit torrid on there for a while, but at least they are on Zara’s side.

 

[ButtonDownTheHutches]

What is it about handsome men that makes some women incapable of believing they can do any wrong? We've said it before but if it was an ugly bastard noone would be running to his defence. I don't understand it, why does good looks have any bearing on character?

It’s what’s known as the ‘halo effect’. It’s a form of cognitive bias whereby people who are perceived to be attractive are regarded more favourably than people viewed as less attractive:

“A simplified example of the halo effect is a person, after noticing that an individual in a photograph is attractive, well groomed, and properly attired, then assuming, using a mental heuristic, that the person in the photograph is a good person based upon the rules of their own social concept”

Halo effect - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[girlinbrum]

Why is Gio referred to FR here?

The other pros and celebs need to zip their defence of Graz now.

 

[Mark81]

Of course although not till late last night which made some people think another pro was gone He is such a thoroughly unpleasant man who really shouldn’t throw stones from his glass house. If he was still there now behaving the way he did he’d be another one out.

See, I'm less sure on that. James is a love him or hate him type of guy. But, he speaks his mind and you know what you're getting. There's no hiding. A key thing here (and is often the case) is the abusers hide behind a carefully curated nice guy image. All the time.

James is a grumpy and arrogant man, and I'm sure he could be rude. But that's different to abuse. Same with Brendon.

Maybe stuff will come out about him, but I think it's the permanent nice guys you need to watch more.