Strictly Come Dancing 2022 #20

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AshT said:
I've felt a bit like the standard of teaching and dancing has dropped this year and I wonder if its because nearly everything is back to normal. The last couple of years have had covid restrictions so there was just a focus on the dancing. This year they're being pulled in every direction doing VTs, extra silly filming promos, ITT, awards ceremonies and premieres etc. And for the first time in a while, most of them are also busy with their day jobs while doing strictly.
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I remember way back when, Ian and Anton saying (possibly on an ITT ask the Pro section) that they spent the first weeks of training … in the early days there was about 5 or 6 weeks between meeting up and the first show … teaching their celebs the basic steps not a routine, the routine came later because then the basics are in from the start and once you have the steps, the routine is easy (kind of proved when Alesha and Matt both forgot the foxtrot just free-styled their routine and no one was any the wiser) They also said about the dances flowing one from the other … there is no point doing a rhumba before a cha cha because basically the rhumba is just the Cha Cha slowed down.

which is where I feel the celebs now are a bit shortchanged. They don’t get the time to learn the basics before week one and the dances are just thrown at them hodgepodge. Fleur hasn’t done a ballroom dance for 3 weeks’ so when she does get one again, it will be like starting from scratch. And she’s not the only one.
 
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secretlondoner said:
Loved Kym and Graziano's Rumba and I hate the Rumba.
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I was genuinely impressed: so often a celebrity does the rumba with a slightly impatient air (if they are the energetic type who wants to fling themselves about in Latin) or a slightly embarassed air (if they are a bit quieter and prefer the formal ballroom dances)

But Kym hit that aloof, restrained note perfectly, she got the flow of the dance spot on, and Graz' choreography was pretty damn good. It all worked so well for her, I love it when a dance suits a celeb so well.
 
Lostcat said:
I was genuinely impressed: so often a celebrity does the rumba with a slightly impatient air (if they are the energetic type who wants to fling themselves about in Latin) or a slightly embarassed air (if they are a bit quieter and prefer the formal ballroom dances)

But Kym hit that aloof, restrained note perfectly, she got the flow of the dance spot on, and Graz' choreography was pretty damn good. It all worked so well for her, I love it when a dance suits a celeb so well.
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My friend said that Graziano looked like Haunted Brendan in his get up, and that’s all I can see now.
 
OMG wishing Fleur on Neil?! Vito didn't do the choreo last night and I think salsas have been messy in the last few years. Even Hamza's was overstuffed but it worked partly because the lifts worked so well.
I agree that the salsa had too much going on - the really impressive bits like the backbend and the final bit with Vito rising from the floor might have had more impact if it was less overstuffed. But I love their partnership and Fleur wanted to do a Tina Turner/Beyoncé type dance..
 
Boring Monday said:
I remember way back when, Ian and Anton saying (possibly on an ITT ask the Pro section) that they spent the first weeks of training … in the early days there was about 5 or 6 weeks between meeting up and the first show … teaching their celebs the basic steps not a routine, the routine came later because then the basics are in from the start and once you have the steps, the routine is easy (kind of proved when Alesha and Matt both forgot the foxtrot just free-styled their routine and no one was any the wiser) They also said about the dances flowing one from the other … there is no point doing a rhumba before a cha cha because basically the rhumba is just the Cha Cha slowed down.

which is where I feel the celebs now are a bit shortchanged. They don’t get the time to learn the basics before week one and the dances are just thrown at them hodgepodge. Fleur hasn’t done a ballroom dance for 3 weeks’ so when she does get one again, it will be like starting from scratch. And she’s not the only one.
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Completely agree with all of this. I also think it's why so few seem to improve now - they don't get the chance to.
 
I was thinking of what standout dances (for me) there have been so far and it’s slim pickings- Hamza’s salsa, Fleur and Vito’s AT- that’s it really for me, one by Jenny Thomas, one by Leandro and Maria (who, IMO, rarely fail and manage to tailor the choreo really well to the couple).

Otherwise, I do think it’s been weak so far choreo-wise- Jowita and Katya are doing the best for me. Vito I love but both of his ballroom dances so far I haven’t enjoyed.
 
Fleur has the messy trying too hard vibes of Rhys last year where everything felt a bit frantic and too fast. She needs to tone it down or she’ll be out next week.

Very disappointed with last nights show, felt really flat and lacking the wow factor overall. Ellie T’s should have been amazing but the dance itself was just a lot of jumping and prancing with capes.

Get rid of Tess, I’d also ditch Claud tbh.
Lose couples choice.
Cut the cheesy VTs down to half the length and put a pro dance at the beginning of the show.
Also lose the 30 seconds of faffing/acting in each dance - Ellie S I’m looking at you with the godawful dentist crap and last nights monstrosity.
 
I agree with making Craig head judge. I liked Anton last year, but not so sure about him this year. The BBC themed week just did not work, and this year’s Halloween has been the weakest for a while. Bring back the training VTs, the newer ones don’t add anything, and it feels like certain celebrities have family involved to maybe manipulate (that might not be the right word, but my brain is taking a while to boot up) us a bit.
I wish I could just DM this entire thread to Strictly on Twitter, but I think I’d have to removed the spoiler chat ( I don’t object to it, but they might)
 
Shesaidwhat? said:
It definitely was James’ time to go. I can’t help but feel if it wasn’t for Gorka and her possibly getting the sympathy vote because her ex is an hole of the highest order that Helen would feature a lot more in the DO.
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I find Helen a bit bland generally but I liked her last night when she said after the dance she thought she was giving it a great lick and then looked back at it and thought the opposite. I'd rather see her win than Will (but it will be Hamza).
 
Who do we genuinely think will be in the final, not just who we want to be there? I have three (potential) definites but the fourth could be out of a few.

I think Hamza, Tyler and Molly definitely (although Molly will be close to being booted a number of times)

And for spot four either Kym, Helen, Fleur or Will. I don’t really think any of them should be there but it can’t be anyone else
 
PontiacBandit said:
I didn't love Hamza this week (sorry 😩) but I think it was because there was too much fabric going on, obscuring the crispness of the footwork and the attack. It looked like two blobs moving across the dancefloor.

Jowita should've been in skirts or Persian-style trousers not both. I'd have preferred Hamza's fabulous tunic finishing mid-thigh so you could appreciate his legwork and frame!
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It’s almost like the producers are sabotaging him so he doesn’t make it to the final 🤔
 
fluffycow172 said:
Who do we genuinely think will be in the final, not just who we want to be there? I have three (potential) definites but the fourth could be out of a few.

I think Hamza, Tyler and Molly definitely (although Molly will be close to being booted a number of times)

And for spot four either Kym, Helen, Fleur or Will. I don’t really think any of them should be there but it can’t be anyone else
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Definitely Will. Seems to have the vote and is the kind of contestant to keep getting votes. I would definitely put Helen instead of Molly: I predict a Molly v Helen or Tyler semi-final DO with Molly leaving.
 
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