Southport Attacks and Aftermath #5

[monga]

"Don’t believe everything on social media,” warns Merseyside Police Chief Constable Serena Kennedy, urging against rumours that could “prejudice this trial" as the Southport suspect faces a separate terror charge"

Waste of team even posting that then.

This is a gossip site where’s the rumours being spread? It’s the news report we’re discussing!

 

[NeverEnough]

Al Qaida have sweet FA to do with Palestine, but it's clear you're on the wind up.

Really. And if he states that this was his reason? Which you have to admit, now that more stuff is coming out, is a not unlikely scenario? That’s the thing with public trials, everyone will be heard as justice will be done and seen to be done.

So if those words come out of his mouth, or his barristers mouth, are they also on a “wind up”?

And of course Islamic terrorist groups universally support Palestine. See Hamas and Hezballah.

And of course 2. Technical truth 3.
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Or just making a nuanced point .
Words matter.

Ahhh “nuance”. The thing you do when you are trying to erase an outcome you don’t like. Another politicians favourite…

 

[monga]

Could be that the distinction is the attack itself wasn’t related to a terrorist motive - he just wanted to attack little girls because he’s a disgusting human rather than for some religious or political reasoning?

He hasn’t gave a motive yet!

 

[thegirlscout]

He hasn’t gave a motive yet!

Maybe the police know more than we do. Just speculating here

 

[monga]

Maybe the police know more than we do. Just speculating here

For sure!

 

[Lars Guinard]

It must be a difficult day for the parents families and community of Alice, Bebe and Elsie, to see the news on the front pages and all over MSM.

 

[thegirlscout]

Would this news have any effect on the people who were imprisoned?

 

[monga]

It’ll be worse if this tweet that was doing the rounds when it happened turns out to be true.

 

[Lars Guinard]

Would this news have any effect on the people who were imprisoned?

How?
Genuinely asking why it would make a difference? What difference it would make?

 

[monga]

Would this news have any effect on the people who were imprisoned?

I’d doubt it they were done for public order offences.

 

[thegirlscout]

How?
Genuinely asking why it would make a difference? What difference it would make?

No idea, just seeing lots of people online saying they should be released and I’m thinking no. Unless some were sent to prison for saying he was a terrorist but then again he’s not actually been found guilty. Answering my own questions here haha

 

[NeverEnough]

It’ll be worse if this tweet that was doing the rounds when it happened turns out to be true.

Yep. I think we definitely need to revisit which side is actually spreading the “disinformation” here.

Well maybe not disinformation, but certainly “nuanced” information .

 

[monga]

 

[pommynoir]

You still up for that?

This isn’t a “gotcha” moment.

Three girls were murdered, the man’s a sick bastard whether he was doing it “for Islam” or any other reason. Surely before people were speculating based on the information given at the time.

 

[bluefoot]

This isn’t a “gotcha” moment.

Three girls were murdered, the man’s a sick bastard whether he was doing it “for Islam” or any other reason. Surely before people were speculating based on the information given at the time.

There’s also speculation was based on no information at the time. Just guessing/being mischievous

 

[pommynoir]

There’s also speculation was based on no information at the time. Just guessing/being mischievous

Absolutely. Unfortunately, when we hear of attacks like this our first thought is naturally Islamic terrorism or radicalised individuals. That’s always going to be the case based on evidence of similar attacks. People weren’t wrong for leaning to that. The media and police then told us that wasn’t the case so naturally we’re going to dismiss it.

I wonder why the links to Al Qaida propaganda wasn’t mentioned before, it does certainly change things.

 

[monga]

Absolutely. Unfortunately, when we hear of attacks like this our first thought is naturally Islamic terrorism or radicalised individuals. That’s always going to be the case based on evidence of similar attacks. People weren’t wrong for leaning to that. The media and police then told us that wasn’t the case so naturally we’re going to dismiss it.

I wonder why the links to Al Qaida propaganda wasn’t mentioned before, it does certainly change things.

Probably because there would be no calming an already tense situation if they admitted he was a terrorist? The stabbing of 11 people must just be coincidence

 

[thegirlscout]

With this news and Tommy Robinson’s alleged treatment in jail I really hope this doesn’t lead to more riots again.

 

[pommynoir]

Probably because there would be no calming an already tense situation if they admitted he was a terrorist? The stabbing of 11 people must just be coincidence

Looking back at the aftermath based on rumours and the fact that Palestine has already been mentioned since the latest news as a possible motive I can’t say that I don’t understand that reasoning.
I don’t like the idea of information being held back , but it does also seem that some are incapable of rational or logical thinking.
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With this news and Tommy Robinson’s alleged treatment in jail I really hope this doesn’t lead to more riots again.

I wonder were they waiting on him going to prison before releasing this

 

[bluefoot]

With this news and Tommy Robinson’s alleged treatment in jail I really hope this doesn’t lead to more riots again.

Oh noes! Tommy Robinson is being treated like a prisoner! When he’s in prison!