Huw Edwards #16

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Bread said:
But you have no idea what she did, or what she knew.
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I know what she said when it was revealed and he had admitted to grooming a vulnerable adolescent boy and giving him thousands of pounds for sex shows and porno photos when he knew for a fact the lad had serious emotional problems and a raging drug addiction. She stood by her man. Loudly, publicly and even had the bleeping gall to claim he was a victim of online bullying and mean words from trolls.

Would you stand by your man if he did that? Is that why you have such empathy for her? Because I'd drag the perverted old bleep down the cop shop myself and invite them in to check every hard drive in the house.


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The youngest child in the images he had was 7 years old. Those images were classed as the most serious form of child sexual abuse imagery. where is that child? Where is the boy from Wales for that matter? Where are any of the children whose lives were sacrificed on the murky altars of horny old men with money to burn and no ethical limits at all?

So duck her feelings and quite frankly duck the feelings of anyone who thinks that supporting men who do this tit is somehow understandable because you cannot possibly be a bleep if you have one.
 
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I didn’t see her standing by him. I saw her put out a statement of facts, saying that he couldn’t himself because he was in inpatient care, she wanted to end the speculation and to protect her children.

What else do you do in that position?

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jackolantern said:
She's divorced him. What else does she have to do before you'd be happy? Murder him and go to jail herself? He's still the father of her kids, she can't go out and spit all over his name for their sake, she's trying to protect her children the best she can in a horrific situation.
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These are the type of people who throw bricks through paediatricians’ windows with their inbred mates from the Facebook vigilante group. There’s no use trying to engage her in reasonable discussion.
 
Millais said:
These are the type of people who throw bricks through paediatricians’ windows with their inbred mates from the Facebook vigilante group. There’s no use trying to engage her in reasonable discussion.
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No love. This is the sort of person who has spent my entire professional life trying to save the kids who've escaped from child sex abuse and being used to provide wankbank material for perverted old ponces like Huw. I saw that witch's statement the day it ws released too. "Oh so dignified. So concerned for her children"

Her children were at that time grown arsed adults for a start. Unlike the 17 year old addict her husband was using with as much regard as he might have had for a wank sock. It was "Me, Huw, Our children, me, me Huw - and the poor darlings Huw worked with whom he allowed to be accused of the crimes he knew he was guilty of."

What I never heard from her and stilll have not is a single word of concern for the victims. A single expression of empathy for the parents of those victims. A single snippet of condemnation for the filthy old diddler who has wrought such harm on so many lives.

You can sit there complacent in your belief that you aren't crude and coarse like me. That you are on guard. You have the sisterhood's back. You will never allow anyone to call another woman a bleep - and that makes you better than me.
I'll go back to trying to get the images & echoes I have of all the victims' agonies out of my nightmares.

I am sure you're much more successful in your quest than I will ever be in mine because once you've seen and heard what I have of the detritus left behind from this vile industry you know there are pieces of your soul which will never rest again.
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I've just found a poem one of my old clients wrote. I wnt looking for it especially for you all. In the faint hope it might give you some bleeping idea.


I wish that broken people got the love broken dogs get.
The ones that get rescued… they live their essential lives.
They get a blank cheque to live. Nothing else.
No life coach needed. Life coach - absurd concept to an Afghan Hound.
Because why?

We live in a big mess that is the opposite of true and the opposite of yes.
Take me to a lovely house where everything is free and
Where everyone is very very careful with me
because I’ve been abused and I’m a bit snappy.
Don’t thicken the Coastal Shelf! Soothe me. Soothe us.

Let me spend 10 months under the farmhouse kitchen table, if I like…
Let me only be fussed by the little girl with gentle hands.
Let me only be friends with the donkey in the field.
Let me only take my meals in private until I know that I’m really really safe.
Allow me to run in the woods and ”leap from a boulder like I’m on a lion”
I think I’d get better then.
Yes I think I’d be alright.

How the duck do you expect a beaten broken hound
to be anything other than a crazy, vicious beast if you keep it in a cage?
We’re not supposed to live like this.
And I will not comply
And I will do something nuts. I cannot lie.


I met that girl when she was 16 years old. She had been trafficked from the age of 11. When she was found, collapsed in the street from a heroin overdose she was covered in open wounds. long slash wounds , cigarette burns, deep gouges on her arms, body, legs and face. Some old wounds. Superating with pus, scabbed over & picked at. Some very fresh, still oozing red blood.
She hadn't been attacked. She had done all of them to herself. Over weeks and months she had taken to hacking at her own body with any implement she could find. Knives, razors, broken glass, the lids off tins of beans.

She told me that she thought if she were ugly, maybe they'd stop taking those pictures of her. Maybe they'd stop raping her.

They did not.

By the time she was about to turn 18 & be ejected from the "Care" system, she was dead. Also at her own hand.
All I could say as I leaned over her emaciated, once beautiful but now ruined little frame was "They can't hurt you anymore darling".

Tell Mrs Huw to think about that girl in relation to her so recently ex-husband. Tell yourselves and all, as you're busy being suffused with sympathy for Mrs Huw & appalled by me.
 
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I too have seen and experienced things that are appalling yet I still think that HE’s wife and children are innocent. She is a victim and until I read otherwise that she’s enabled him or knew and hid his crimes I will continue to support her. This doesn’t mean i don’t have sympathy for the victims. Of course I do! But they are his crimes, not hers!
We are all entitled to an opinion and this is mine.
 
Tilly Kister said:
No love. This is the sort of person who has spent my entire professional life trying to save the kids who've escaped from child sex abuse and being used to provide wankbank material for perverted old ponces like Huw. I saw that witch's statement the day it ws released too. "Oh so dignified. So concerned for her children"
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Just going to preface this with the statement that I find it absolutely abhorrent that predators like Huw Edwards, Philip Schofield and Kevin Spacey try and shield themselves from the consequences of their vile behaviour by hiding behind the LGBTQ community.

This post is intended as a defense of the LGBTQA community who endure homophobic hatred and have absolutely no connection with the abuse of children and others.

Can we not use a homophobic slur when talking about behaviour which is exclusive to predators and abusers. You don't get to claim the moral high ground whilst you scapegoat those who are not responsible for Huw's disgusting crimes.

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Tin Can Crook said:
Just going to preface this with the statement that I find it absolutely abhorrent that predators like Huw Edwards, Philip Schofield and Kevin Spacey try and shield themselves from the consequences of their vile behaviour by hiding behind the LGBTQ community.

This post is intended as a defense of the LGBTQA community who endure homophobic hatred and have absolutely no connection with the abuse of children and others.

Can we not use a homophobic slur when talking about behaviour which is exclusive to predators and abusers. You don't get to claim the moral high ground whilst you scapegoat those who are not responsible for Huw's disgusting crimes.

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I'm a member of that community and btw they won't accept n once on this forum so it gets botmodded. I thought most of the audience would be literate enough to use the rhyme scheme.

Most but not all apparently.
 
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Tilly Kister said:
I'm a member of that community and btw they won't accept n once on this forum so it gets botmodded. I thought most of the audience would be literate enough to use the rhyme scheme.

Most but not all apparently.
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I'm perfectly literate. You used a derogatory term harmful to a marginalised group when you have no need to. You've now been educated of this. There are a number of other words you can use, you do not have to use that one. It is not illiteracy to see you using a harmful word and assuming you mean what the actual word means.

Belonging to the group also doesn't give you permission to throw around the term in a harmful way.

I'm done now. I just thought you should be aware of the meaning of the word you keep using.
 
Tin Can Crook said:
I'm perfectly literate. You used a derogatory term harmful to a marginalised group when you have no need to. You've now been educated of this. There are a number of other words you can use, you do not have to use that one. It is not illiteracy to see you using a harmful word and assuming you mean what the actual word means.

Belonging to the group also doesn't give you permission to throw around the term in a harmful way.

I'm done now. I just thought you should be aware of the meaning of the word you keep using.
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Your feeling offended by a word does not trump my right to use it. If the forum thought the word needs censoring they'd bot mod it like they do it's rhyme partner.

Sure I have heard your complaint and understood it perfectly well. You are far more upset by an antiquated bit of vernacular than by child rape and its enablers.
Good to know.
 
Libbylulu said:
I too have seen and experienced things that are appalling yet I still think that HE’s wife and children are innocent. She is a victim and until I read otherwise that she’s enabled him or knew and hid his crimes I will continue to support her. This doesn’t mean i don’t have sympathy for the victims. Of course I do! But they are his crimes, not hers!
We are all entitled to an opinion and this is mine.
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Quite.
 
Just because a word rhymes, it doesn't mean it shares the same meaning? That's not how language works. Here is the definition for the other word.

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I specifically said I find the crime abhorrent. At the same time, I think it's unacceptable to hide behind the pretense of a moral highground, weaponising the experiences of countless victims of the appalling abuse as justification for thinly veiled homophobia and misogyny.

You seem quite a bit more angry at his wife and seemingly the LGBTQ+ community given your insistance of using the slur, rather than you are the actual criminal in this discussion: Huw Edwards and the other abusers he has interacted with.

Several people here have explained why your anger is misdirected. Implying people are pro child abuse and don't stand by the victims because they don't agree with the misogynistic and homophobic language and opinions you have is pretty abhorrent.

You are taking the horrific experiences of victims and using them to justify your bigotry.
 
Imagine finding out the person you've spent your life with and is the father of your children is the monster that Huw is, and then tell me how that doesn't deserve empathy within itself. Noone is saying she deserves more empathy than his victims, but feeling sad for a woman whose whole life has been destroyed just makes you human. Obviously everyone here has immense sympathy for his victims, we've said that from the every start (and tbh goes without saying). Why does it have to be one or the other? Empathy isn't finite. We can do both.
 
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