Huw Edwards #16

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Tin Can Crook said:
Just because a word rhymes, it doesn't mean it shares the same meaning? That's not how language works. Here is the definition for the other word.

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I specifically said I find the crime abhorrent. At the same time, I think it's unacceptable to hide behind the pretense of a moral highground, weaponising the experiences of countless victims of the appalling abuse as justification for thinly veiled homophobia and misogyny.

You seem quite a bit more angry at his wife and seemingly the LGBTQ+ community given your insistance of using the slur, rather than you are the actual criminal in this discussion: Huw Edwards and the other abusers he has interacted with.

Several people here have explained why your anger is misdirected. Implying people are pro child abuse and don't stand by the victims because they don't agree with the misogynistic and homophobic language and opinions you have is pretty abhorrent.

You are taking the horrific experiences of victims and using them to justify your bigotry.
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Not sure if you really are this dim or if you're feigning it to cover for the FACT that she stood by her child abusing predator husband, tried to cover for him under the panacea of 2HE IS MENTALLY ILL OMG STOP BULLYING HIM!" and never has ever once said a word about his victims.

Hence she is complicit in his crimes. If you do not see that, maybe you'd behave the same way. In which case you have very little high grounds upon which to stand on any matter.
 
I'm just gonna go ahead and ignore the post above calling me dim and implying I must support any of my loved ones who abuse children (not that I have any knowledge of anybody I'm close to doing such a thing, anyway) because it's not productive.

For everybody else: I think the fact she separated with him and then set the motions to divorce him is evidence enough. We don't know what she knew. Her putting out a statement is also unsurprising given his weaponising of mental health in DMs, a common abuse tactic. I hope she and her family are okay. It was an impossible situation. I think focus should remain on the abusers and criminals who have actively harmed children and on the UK legal system that enables them to continue doing so.
 
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jackolantern said:
Imagine finding out the person you've spent your life with and is the father of your children is the monster that Huw is, and then tell me how that doesn't deserve empathy within itself. Noone is saying she deserves more empathy than his victims, but feeling sad for a woman whose whole life has been destroyed just makes you human. Obviously everyone here has immense sympathy for his victims, we've said that from the every start (and tbh goes without saying). Why does it have to be one or the other? Empathy isn't finite. We can do both.
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She feels no empathy for his victims. She feels no revulsion at his actions. If she did she would have said so long since. Other families of sex criminals & murderers have. Huckle's own mum and dad disowned him. Stuart Hazell's father and sister did the same.

I'll tell you why they're getting divorced and that's to keep his stash of cash safe from the law suits they're afraid are coming now he's been convicted of a sex offence. She'll keep the lion's share of the family assets and the pool of available funds to help his victims get past their trauma will be far shallower. It's what Russell Williams did. It's what Shipman did. eventually even what Sutcliffe did. Sign everything into the wife's name and no matter how complicit or otherwise the wives were, the victims have no claim on any of that cash.
 
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Tin Can Crook said:
I'm just gonna go ahead and ignore the post above calling me dim and implying I must support any of my loved ones who abuse children (not that I have any knowledge of anybody I'm close to doing such a thing, anyway) because it's not productive.

For everybody else: I think the fact she separated with him and then set the motions to divorce him is evidence enough. We don't know what she knew. Her putting out a statement is also unsurprising given his weaponising of mental health in DMs, a common abuse tactic. I hope she and her family are okay. It was an impossible situation. I think focus should remain on the abusers and criminals who have actively harmed children and on the UK legal system that enables them to continue doing so.
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The only dim person is repeating the same old words in their own little echo chamber and not listening to anyone else.
 
I know I got called a troll a few pages back but I think the text of HE's messages to me gives you a very good insight into what he is. Obviously these are not screenshots as I was advised not to share, and it's up to you if you believe them. But I am genuine.

This is what he said to me. It was very unsettling getting these from a complete stranger. Now imagine what being married to him was like.

Bread - when you understand the gravity of serious mental disorder, requiring prolonged hospital stays, suicide attempts, a total loss of sanity - you might, just might, be able to pass judgment. Until that time, please steer clear. I was deeply grateful for your supportive comments last year. I wish you well.

It is for the courts to pass judgment, which I have accepted with humility. I am homeless, jobless and alone. I do not misunderstand what's happened. But your moral grandstanding and financial advice are noted.

I'm sorry you've seen fit to respond like this. I replied because you were so kind last year. I think you need to ask yourself if you're the best person to give advice "for dealing with other people" - take another look at the message you sent me and maybe you'll understand the irony. You follow it up with a gloating reference to my being alone... and you accuse me of trying to make you feel bad! That certainly wasn't my intention amd I apologise if that was the effect. As I said, I was grateful for your words last year but I really don't need this kind of trolling. I wish you good health and happiness. Over and out.
 
Bread said:
I know I got called a troll a few pages back but I think the text of HE's messages to me gives you a very good insight into what he is. Obviously these are not screenshots as I was advised not to share, and it's up to you if you believe them. But I am genuine.

This is what he said to me. It was very unsettling getting these from a complete stranger. Now imagine what being married to him was like.

Bread - when you understand the gravity of serious mental disorder, requiring prolonged hospital stays, suicide attempts, a total loss of sanity - you might, just might, be able to pass judgment. Until that time, please steer clear. I was deeply grateful for your supportive comments last year. I wish you well.

It is for the courts to pass judgment, which I have accepted with humility. I am homeless, jobless and alone. I do not misunderstand what's happened. But your moral grandstanding and financial advice are noted.

I'm sorry you've seen fit to respond like this. I replied because you were so kind last year. I think you need to ask yourself if you're the best person to give advice "for dealing with other people" - take another look at the message you sent me and maybe you'll understand the irony. You follow it up with a gloating reference to my being alone... and you accuse me of trying to make you feel bad! That certainly wasn't my intention amd I apologise if that was the effect. As I said, I was grateful for your words last year but I really don't need this kind of trolling. I wish you good health and happiness. Over and out.
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"You're full of tit and I wish you were dead" would have been the only response I could have made to a message like that.
 
Even if a man is found out to be the worst kind of criminal, it's always a woman's fault. His mum didn't raise him properly. His wife should have known. The women he dated must have seen the signs. Never a Dad, a brother, a son. I notice the above poster isn't going after any of the men in Huw's life for not releasing a statement about how disgusted they are, no? Just the wife, got it.
 
jackolantern said:
Even if a man is found out to be the worst kind of criminal, it's always a woman's fault. His mum didn't raise him properly. His wife should have known. The women he dated must have seen the signs. Never a Dad, a brother, a son. I notice the above poster isn't going after any of the men in Huw's life for not releasing a statement about how disgusted they are, no? Just the wife, got it.
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And this is why you then get them taking no accountability and they get sent home with short suspended sentences as if they didn't ruin the lives of several children. And then you get the abusers like Huw Edwards weaponising mental health as he has in DMs posted here. Next thing you know women have have suicide hovering over the heads of their with them being held responsible for the personal safety of abusers. It's a horrific place to be in. Putting out a relatively neutral statement then separating and divorcing the abuser is an understandable approach given the circumstances.

It would be one thing if she were standing by him in court, publicly announcing support and staying with him but she's categorically not done so.

Don't think that makes anybody in here a "n" or stupid to have some empathy for somebody in her position. Abusers need to be held accountable. Blame lies with them.
 
Tin Can Crook said:
And this is why you then get them taking no accountability and they get sent home with short suspended sentences as if they didn't ruin the lives of several children. And then you get the abusers like Huw Edwards weaponising mental health as he has in DMs posted here. Next thing you know women have have suicide hovering over the heads of their with them being held responsible for the personal safety of abusers. It's a horrific place to be in. Putting out a relatively neutral statement then separating and divorcing the abuser is an understandable approach given the circumstances.

It would be one thing if she were standing by him in court, publicly announcing support and staying with him but she's categorically not done so.

Don't think that makes anybody in here a "n" or stupid to have some empathy for somebody in her position. Abusers need to be held accountable. Blame lies with them.
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I didn't say a damn word about his crimes being her fault. I said her failure to either condemn his crimes or proffer expressions of empathy and well wishes for his victims is her fault.

Why is it with you people that a woman's successes are all due to her own efforts but her failings are never something for which she needs to take responsibility?

And btw if she wasn't a nice middle class woman with a successful career in a white collar field, would her failure to say anything about her husband's crimes being repugnant still be so excusable? Like say she was on benefits living in Bootle would it still be OK that her husband was found to be a predator and she was down the Karaoke pleading with locals to stop picking on him because he's depressed about being caught?

I bet it wouldn't be.
 
People have to be responsible for their own actions.
HE's wife will be thinking of their children's reactions to all this, and of her own life changing direction she's now forced down.
(We don't know anything else concerning her views and opinion - has there been anything in print? ). Because of him. He's badly affected his own family for the rest of all their lives as they now all know he is an under-age sex-pest.
He has shown no remorse for his actions & he enjoyed watching / wanking to it.
He is an abhorrent bleep. Too many of his ilk in the media .
 
Bread said:
I know I got called a troll a few pages back but I think the text of HE's messages to me gives you a very good insight into what he is. Obviously these are not screenshots as I was advised not to share, and it's up to you if you believe them. But I am genuine.

This is what he said to me. It was very unsettling getting these from a complete stranger. Now imagine what being married to him was like.

Bread - when you understand the gravity of serious mental disorder, requiring prolonged hospital stays, suicide attempts, a total loss of sanity - you might, just might, be able to pass judgment. Until that time, please steer clear. I was deeply grateful for your supportive comments last year. I wish you well.

It is for the courts to pass judgment, which I have accepted with humility. I am homeless, jobless and alone. I do not misunderstand what's happened. But your moral grandstanding and financial advice are noted.

I'm sorry you've seen fit to respond like this. I replied because you were so kind last year. I think you need to ask yourself if you're the best person to give advice "for dealing with other people" - take another look at the message you sent me and maybe you'll understand the irony. You follow it up with a gloating reference to my being alone... and you accuse me of trying to make you feel bad! That certainly wasn't my intention amd I apologise if that was the effect. As I said, I was grateful for your words last year but I really don't need this kind of trolling. I wish you good health and happiness. Over and out.
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I believe you but find it very odd you would contact him in the 1st place 🤷‍♂️
 
Bread said:
I know I got called a troll a few pages back but I think the text of HE's messages to me gives you a very good insight into what he is. Obviously these are not screenshots as I was advised not to share, and it's up to you if you believe them. But I am genuine.

This is what he said to me. It was very unsettling getting these from a complete stranger. Now imagine what being married to him was like.

Bread - when you understand the gravity of serious mental disorder, requiring prolonged hospital stays, suicide attempts, a total loss of sanity - you might, just might, be able to pass judgment. Until that time, please steer clear. I was deeply grateful for your supportive comments last year. I wish you well.

It is for the courts to pass judgment, which I have accepted with humility. I am homeless, jobless and alone. I do not misunderstand what's happened. But your moral grandstanding and financial advice are noted.

I'm sorry you've seen fit to respond like this. I replied because you were so kind last year. I think you need to ask yourself if you're the best person to give advice "for dealing with other people" - take another look at the message you sent me and maybe you'll understand the irony. You follow it up with a gloating reference to my being alone... and you accuse me of trying to make you feel bad! That certainly wasn't my intention amd I apologise if that was the effect. As I said, I was grateful for your words last year but I really don't need this kind of trolling. I wish you good health and happiness. Over and out.
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Who advised you that sharing screen shots was not good but copy and pasting text was?
 
Earlier on the thread.

I contact quite a few people, when I feel I want to. Sometimes I hear back, sometimes I don't. You think it's odd, that's fine, it's not something everyone would do. We're all different. People do/think/say thinks I deem extremely odd but if it's legal and harmless it doesn't matter.
 
Bread said:
Earlier on the thread.

I contact quite a few people, when I feel I want to. Sometimes I hear back, sometimes I don't. You think it's odd, that's fine, it's not something everyone would do. We're all different. People do/think/say thinks I deem extremely odd but if it's legal and harmless it doesn't matter.
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Sorry, guess I was meaning to question if you work in the media?
 
No, not for a long time.

I wasn't going to say more about them but they tell you so much about this human being it's quite startling. Although to be fair his trial said enough to me: he was "disappointed" by his family's "lack of support" or whatever it was.

It was just in the context of understanding what it may have been like for his wife, family and colleagues.
 
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