Huw Edwards #16

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Thanks, I'm truly not interesting: if he'd not said anything or had replied with some humility and shame and acknowledgement I'd never have said a word about it. But the way he did reply was so staggering - it tells you a lot about him and in turn puts some context on the actions of those around him which I think is only fair to THEM to share. Particularly those who are getting it in the neck, and aren't him!

When the Savile stories came out I had zero sympathy for the nurses etc who knew what he was doing and couldn't say/do anything. I had to really read more and learn about the situation to understand how difficult it had been for them..I still don't totally get it, but I'm fortunately not in their shoes so I never will. However, it's done me good to try to see things from their perspective, if that makes sense. Naturally, we all judge things from our own sphere of experience.
 
InkHeart said:
I've struggled all my life with suicidal depression and hospital stays, I've managed not to groom teenagers or view child abuse material.
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This 100% I too have been a victim of severe depression and some very black black times . I feel HE and others like PS all cry depression and mental health when they get caught. It’s their get out of jail card. It sickens me further tbh that they say this.
 
laughing said:
HE has a well documented history of depression and MH issues before this all came out.
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(I agree with you but need to add… because I know how your post will be taken by some…)

MH isn’t an excuse, but it can be a contributing factor for a number of things. It’s not mitigation and it’s not the only reason. But it didn’t just magically happen when he was caught.
 
Libbylulu said:
This 100% I too have been a victim of severe depression and some very black black times . I feel HE and others like PS all cry depression and mental health when they get caught. It’s their get out of jail card. It sickens me further tbh that they say this.
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And they all act like they're the only one to ever have mental health problems. "No one can judge me, until you know what I've been through!"

Yeah well I've been through it, so here I am to judge you.
 
InTheDollsHouse said:
(I agree with you but need to add… because I know how your post will be taken by some…)

MH isn’t an excuse, but it can be a contributing factor for a number of things. It’s not mitigation and it’s not the only reason. But it didn’t just magically happen when he was caught.
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Weird how it’s only men who turn to child abuse when they’re got mental health problems which are severe enough to cause them to do something terrible but not terrible enough to impact their high profile career in any way whatsoever 🤨
 
InTheDollsHouse said:
Like I said, it’s not an excuse or a mitigation. But it can be a fact.
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And like I said, ‘well documented‘ mental health issues which have zero impact on your career are very convenient. He says he was bedridden but there is zero evidence of that. His mental health issues began to be well documented at the time he was grooming a child and watching videos of children being raped.

And honestly, I couldn’t give a tit. He has zero remorse. He’s a disgusted pervert who belongs in jail.
 
InTheDollsHouse said:
(I agree with you but need to add… because I know how your post will be taken by some…)

MH isn’t an excuse, but it can be a contributing factor for a number of things. It’s not mitigation and it’s not the only reason. But it didn’t just magically happen when he was caught.
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It's not a contributing factor in being a weirdo. There is absolutely no
InTheDollsHouse said:
Like I said, it’s not an excuse or a mitigation. But it can be a fact.
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It was used by himself, his family & his lawyer as both an excuse and mitigation though. The Beeb also got in on that talking point. It was also used as a ploy for public sympathy with the suicidal ideation claims. Just as Scrotefield used it. Which ploy did indeed garner quite a lot of public sympathy. Mostly from the middle classes and quite a lot from wales where his local hero status seems to have insulated him somewhat.

It also seems to have been a factor in the obscene decision to not send him to Monster Mansion with the rest of the perverts where he belongs.

Funny how if one of the kids who've been nonced commits a heinous offence like buying drugs or shoplifting to afford a few drugs, their mental health is never so much of an issue at sentencing. And when they give evidence against their abusers, Defence Counsel are very effectively able to used their histories of poor mental health against them. Claiming it makes their recollections suspect. Could all be delusions, innit?

ETA: Money won't buy justice in this country but it sure as tit gets you a better class of verdict.
 
Again I reiterate the need to campaign for paedophiles to get banged up, and for much tougher sentences. HE's sentence is no different to that of anyone else.

The woman who tweeted racist hatred for example deserves punishment, but that could be a massive fine and/or community service like helping rebuild the mosques her bile helped destroy. How she got jail and a paedophile doesn't, I will never understand.
 
A man has just died in jail for the crime of waving a placard with a few quite frankly offensive words on it, making a few Facebook posts similar and having some flat earter mates. His long history of poor mental health wasn't taken into consideration. Nor was his long term cardiac disease. He was sentenced to 4 years and he died in jail only weeks later of the cardiac disease.

I'm gay with Irish, Chinese and Jamaican heritage and I think that this dichotomy in sentencing when looking at the crimes committed is utterly abhorrent.
 
Tilly Kister said:
A man has just died in jail for the crime of waving a placard with a few quite frankly offensive words on it, making a few Facebook posts similar and having some flat earter mates. His long history of poor mental health wasn't taken into consideration. Nor was his long term cardiac disease. He was sentenced to 4 years and he died in jail only weeks later of the cardiac disease.

I'm gay with Irish, Chinese and Jamaican heritage and I think that this dichotomy in sentencing when looking at the crimes committed is utterly abhorrent.
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He didn't get 2 years for waving placards. That wasn't seen as illegal. He got custody for being a 'full participant' in a large group violent disorder. I believe it was that riot that involved trying to set fire to the building with asylum seekers inside it, but I could be confusing it with another.
 
Also_smoke_and_mirrors said:
He didn't get 2 years for waving placards. That wasn't seen as illegal. He got custody for being a 'full participant' in a large group violent disorder. I believe it was that riot that involved trying to set fire to the building with asylum seekers inside it, but I could be confusing it with another.
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Yes I think you are confused. I got the sentencing incorrect though so here I shall errata us both.


Mine seems to have been a tad less wrong than yours though as he was indeed convicted of having said and written some frankly offensive things and having some flat earther mates. He set fire to duck all & was nowhere near a mosque.

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Tilly Kister said:
His long history of poor mental health wasn't taken into consideration
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Neither was HE’s. It was not a factor for consideration on sentencing.

The sickening fact is that sex offenders, p’dophiles and those viewing child images are not given the sentence they should be.
Yes, anyone who is a sexual predator or who engages at any level with CSA itself and/or images should be locked up. Absolutely they should be. But they aren’t.

That’s the bones of it - our justice system is absolutely awful and those who should be away to protect the vulnerable are not.

It’s no-one’s fault that the man who had died was in prison but his own.

But there is fault that the likes of HE are free. That lies with those setting laws and in charge of the sentencing guidelines.
 
jackolantern said:
I'm bleeping sick of hearing he had 'well documented mental health issues', so do very many of us, if not the majority. Difference is, we aren't filthy child abusing pigs.
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Here here!

And it's not unheard of for people to start going on about their mental health issues as an insurance policy for if/when their skeletons come out!

I was called disgusting for saying this last year, but I stand by it. Huw is a vile manipulative person, it's very likely he started documenting his mental health issues as a get out clause for if/when his crimes came out.
 
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