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Just having a nose said:
She said that she used the ‘milk ladder’ which the NHS use to treat babies with cows milk allergy. My daughter is currently going through that now and it takes a long time I don’t think Grace did it correctly to be honest because the first step is half a malted milk biscuit but she basically went from nothing to eating cheese etc which other than milk is the highest amount of dairy you can get, it seems to have worked for her though so fair play, would’ve been interesting to see a video on how she did it tbh
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My friend is lactose intolerant, same as Grace was and she can tolerate cheese really well as the process of making cheese reduces the lactose content, apparently.
 
Lizzie Mintdrop said:
My friend is lactose intolerant, same as Grace was and she can tolerate cheese really well as the process of making cheese reduces the lactose content, apparently.
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My understanding is that Grace always stressed that she was dairy intolerant not lactose intolerant and that it was different. Either way I don’t believe she should have referenced the milk ladder as she has not done it correctly, like I said my baby is on it currently and it’s a really long process, can take up until she is 2 or older whereas Grace just seemed to start eating it in vlogs then seemed to avoid answering the question when she had made a huge deal out of it. In my opinion it’s because she is constantly gifted vegan and dairy free foods and she didn’t want to have to turn them down or stop getting the deals because she no longer resonates with their target audience 🤷‍♀️
 
Lizzie Mintdrop said:
My friend is lactose intolerant, same as Grace was and she can tolerate cheese really well as the process of making cheese reduces the lactose content, apparently.
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It depends on the cheese , hard cheeses like Parmesan have low levels of lactose but soft ones don’t
 
Just having a nose said:
My understanding is that Grace always stressed that she was dairy intolerant not lactose intolerant and that it was different. Either way I don’t believe she should have referenced the milk ladder as she has not done it correctly, like I said my baby is on it currently and it’s a really long process, can take up until she is 2 or older whereas Grace just seemed to start eating it in vlogs then seemed to avoid answering the question when she had made a huge deal out of it. In my opinion it’s because she is constantly gifted vegan and dairy free foods and she didn’t want to have to turn them down or stop getting the deals because she no longer resonates with their target audience 🤷‍♀️
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If she became intolerant due to antibiotics it is usually lactose intolerance rather than dairy intolerance.

emm said:
It depends on the cheese , hard cheeses like Parmesan have low levels of lactose but soft ones don’t
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True, but things like cheddar are usually easier on the gut too
 
Lizzie Mintdrop said:
If she became intolerant due to antibiotics it is usually lactose intolerance rather than dairy intolerance.


True, but things like cheddar are usually easier on the gut too
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Yeah, it basically depends on how aged the cheese is apparently. It is weird because she was so insistent she had a dairy allergy (which I had never heard of before), not lactose intolerance
 
Lizzie Mintdrop said:
If she became intolerant due to antibiotics it is usually lactose intolerance rather than dairy intolerance.


True, but things like cheddar are usually easier on the gut too
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Yes but she was insistent that it was dairy allergy and not a lactose intolerance several times, hence why she stated that she attempted the ‘milk ladder’ which is specifically for dairy allergies (actually in babies it’s called CMPA- cows milk protein allergy) in my original post I stated that she mentioned she used the milk ladder as a way to bring dairy back into her diet, but she didn’t follow it correctly as it usually takes years. She has been insistent that she has a severe dairy allergy for years when evidently that wasn’t the case, perhaps it was a lactose intolerance but she insisted it was not.
 
Yeah I remember her insisting it was dairy not lactose, people used to suggest the pills that can help people tolerate lactose to her.

I also don’t remember her ever explaining, before it went away, that it was relatively recent after antibiotics. I don’t think she ever explicitly said but I had the impression it was something she’d had all her life and I think a lot of other viewers did which added to the confusion when suddenly she started eating dairy all the things.
 
I'm fairly sure she always said dairy intolerance, not lactose, and not allergy. Doing less dairy-free content makes her videos less interesting to me personally as a vegan but I mean, good for her if she doesn't have a reaction to dairy anymore 🤷‍♀️ The macaron vs macaroon thing was also bizarre, she actually said 'one's the French coconutty one' like?? No, you've just merged both of them!
 
emm said:
Yeah, it basically depends on how aged the cheese is apparently. It is weird because she was so insistent she had a dairy allergy (which I had never heard of before), not lactose intolerance
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I always assumed it was lactose intolerance because she always said it started in her late teens, which is when lots of people develop it and it just gave her the runs . Protein allergies are much more serious and potentially life threatening.

Just having a nose said:
Yes but she was insistent that it was dairy allergy and not a lactose intolerance several times, hence why she stated that she attempted the ‘milk ladder’ which is specifically for dairy allergies (actually in babies it’s called CMPA- cows milk protein allergy) in my original post I stated that she mentioned she used the milk ladder as a way to bring dairy back into her diet, but she didn’t follow it correctly as it usually takes years. She has been insistent that she has a severe dairy allergy for years when evidently that wasn’t the case, perhaps it was a lactose intolerance but she insisted it was not.
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I've only ever seen her say that dairy gave her the runs and that she developed it in her late teens. But I agree, she never used the dairy ladder, at least not in the clinical sense. I think she may have introduced milk gradually back into her diet, rather than chugging a pint of milk and block of cheese on day one.
 
emm said:
I had assumed the lactose thing as well, as I have the same, but she was SO insistent it was dairy not lactose, I just find the whole thing really bizarre tbh
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Me too! The way she went on about it I thought that she had been medically diagnosed which is why she was so specific. I think I got confused though she did not say she had an allergy she said it was dairy intolerance. Anyway 😅 I think she should have done a proper sit down video as it may help others going through the same thing as there is a huge confusion and like you say, it’s all a bit bizarre.
 
Just having a nose said:
Me too! The way she went on about it I thought that she had been medically diagnosed which is why she was so specific. I think I got confused though she did not say she had an allergy she said it was dairy intolerance. Anyway 😅 I think she should have done a proper sit down video as it may help others going through the same thing as there is a huge confusion and like you say, it’s all a bit bizarre.
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yeah I agree, the lack of addressing it is the most bizarre to me
 
I can see why she doesn't touch this dairy topic. It is a confusing subject and lots of people don't really understand the differences between all the terms being thrown about. Classically, there is lactose intolerance and dairy protein allergy. Lactose is sugar that requires an enzyme, lactase to breakdown the lactose. People make less of it as they grow older so then symptoms might appear. Other people may not actually make that much but their gut bacteria compensates such that until the microbiome gets disturbed (with antibiotics for example), they are fine but after such an event, they also have symptoms. But if that microbiome changes back to the original form, their intolerance goes away. dairy protein allergy is allergy to milk proteins, symptoms are hard to separate from lactose intolerance but the age of onset and time course are totally different. "dairy sensitivity" is quite meaningless and food sensitivity testing kits is like reading palms.

She probably was lactose intolerant but didn't have a good response to Lactaid (it just doesn't work or is enough for some people) and so it was explained to her or she understood it as "dairy intolerance" and not lactose intolerance. the milk ladder didn't work for her or she could speed through because she didn't actually have a true allergy. Anyways this topic is kind of boring and I don't think it's bizarre that she doesn't want to dedicate time in a video going through it when the vast majority of her viewers probably don't care.
 
120clemon said:
I can see why she doesn't touch this dairy topic. It is a confusing subject and lots of people don't really understand the differences between all the terms being thrown about. Classically, there is lactose intolerance and dairy protein allergy. Lactose is sugar that requires an enzyme, lactase to breakdown the lactose. People make less of it as they grow older so then symptoms might appear. Other people may not actually make that much but their gut bacteria compensates such that until the microbiome gets disturbed (with antibiotics for example), they are fine but after such an event, they also have symptoms. But if that microbiome changes back to the original form, their intolerance goes away. dairy protein allergy is allergy to milk proteins, symptoms are hard to separate from lactose intolerance but the age of onset and time course are totally different. "dairy sensitivity" is quite meaningless and food sensitivity testing kits is like reading palms.

She probably was lactose intolerant but didn't have a good response to Lactaid (it just doesn't work or is enough for some people) and so it was explained to her or she understood it as "dairy intolerance" and not lactose intolerance. the milk ladder didn't work for her or she could speed through because she didn't actually have a true allergy. Anyways this topic is kind of boring and I don't think it's bizarre that she doesn't want to dedicate time in a video going through it when the vast majority of her viewers probably don't care.
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Legit I could not care less 🤣💀 gimmie Banksy and Gracks Dad content over milk allergies plz 🤣🤗
 
shammy24 said:
she has a whole baking degree but all she does is google recipes, literally anyone can do that. I would love if she would develop her own since she always bangs on about how much interest she has in product development, surely developing your own recipes was a big part of her degree
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I agree, it's weird because while she is obviously a good baker, without making her own recipes I don't see hugely what sets her apart from your average home baker. Like (I'm not tooting my own horn) but I can whip up most of the stuff she does and I have no food related qualifications, as I would say most home bakers could too. I dunno I guess I kinda expected super fancy pastries and stuff.
 
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