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jackolantern said:
I still don’t understand why if she has such a passion for baking she’s sidelining it for YouTube. I know most of her videos are food related but it’s not really the same as becoming a proper baker which seemed to be what she was going for. I kinda feel like she lost direction once she finished uni and the unfortunate timing of the pandemic has got her stuck in a rut. She seems way too accomplished and not enough of an airhead to make YouTube her life.
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Seems to happened to a few Youtubers of graduating age around the time the pandemic struck and it must be hard. So many plans for potential collaborations or video ideas or stuff and then you get stuck at home because of a pandemic and have to end up doing all these home videos. Given she's not at all a productivity type YouTuber at all so she can't drop back on the study content. She did make a lot of comfy lockdown content but as we've begun to open back up I care about watching it a lot less.

What are people's problems with Honor? She is absolutely stunning but I haven't seen enough of her to form any opinions of her.
 
hollowcrown said:
Seems to happened to a few Youtubers of graduating age around the time the pandemic struck and it must be hard. So many plans for potential collaborations or video ideas or stuff and then you get stuck at home because of a pandemic and have to end up doing all these home videos. Given she's not at all a productivity type YouTuber at all so she can't drop back on the study content. She did make a lot of comfy lockdown content but as we've begun to open back up I care about watching it a lot less.

What are people's problems with Honor? She is absolutely stunning but I haven't seen enough of her to form any opinions of her.
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I know nothing about honour but it did annoy me they both seemed to be spending time together, and closely so, when we were in lockdown
 
mrshb91 said:
I know this is pretty nosey and you can’t be sure, but what do we think Grace’s relationship with her mum is like? She seems super close to her dad. Always including him in things, making or buying his favourite food and things he enjoys (cinnamon roll, red slime etc) but barely mentions her mum unless she’s made dinner for the household.

I know her mum doesn’t like to be on camera and is probably a private person but I noticed in the Gordon Ramsey vegan steak video, her face dropped when her mum mentioned that her dad didn’t like mashed potato and he was unsure of the aubergine and Grace was staring at him waiting for a reaction but then when her mum said she wasn’t enjoying, Grace couldn’t seem less bothered.
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Grace definitely seems to be a daddy’s girl as much as you can tell from the videos, both she and her dad seem to have the same daft fun personality (not an insult, just can’t think of a better adjective) while her mum seems more sensible and calm.
 
emm said:
I know nothing about honour but it did annoy me they both seemed to be spending time together, and closely so, when we were in lockdown
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Hmmm I guess so. Lockdown 1 I think people should have been adhering to the rules pretty stringently, same in Lockdown 2 in November and the pre/post Christmas lockdown, but if its been at any time since like late Feb I think I can give them a pass.
 
mrshb91 said:
I know this is pretty nosey and you can’t be sure, but what do we think Grace’s relationship with her mum is like? She seems super close to her dad. Always including him in things, making or buying his favourite food and things he enjoys (cinnamon roll, red slime etc) but barely mentions her mum unless she’s made dinner for the household.

I know her mum doesn’t like to be on camera and is probably a private person but I noticed in the Gordon Ramsey vegan steak video, her face dropped when her mum mentioned that her dad didn’t like mashed potato and he was unsure of the aubergine and Grace was staring at him waiting for a reaction but then when her mum said she wasn’t enjoying, Grace couldn’t seem less bothered.
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In one of those more elaborate videos (I want to say it was like, a continental breakfast one? Or a hotel-themed one), I remember her mom being really appreciative and talking about how they were very blessed to have Grace. I remember this because I thought it was so nice to tell each other that in a family (my family is more of a "well this wasn't too bad I guess" kind of people).
So... that's not saying much at all. But it seemed genuine. I'd venture that since lockdown has forced Grace into providing a lot more family-related content, this might be a strain if her mom doesn't like having the camera around as much.
 
hollowcrown said:
What are people's problems with Honor? She is absolutely stunning but I haven't seen enough of her to form any opinions of her.
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This is only a recap of what I've seen for myself/what has been posted on here and other chat sites.

Honor seems to make Grace very self-conscious, they only comment about their own appearances and discuss shallow opinions. Also Honor seems to make Grace act so unlike herself- instead of chatty and care free she becomes quite, dulled down and acts like a 'mean girl'.

Honor had a private instagram and an open twitter page where she posted some anti BLM and homophobic content (I've seen screenshots, no idea how they came about or if they're still circulating). Grace had liked a post that called gay people 'sinners who choose to be gay'. There are a few other claims/rumours that were thrown around on another chat site about a year ago. Someone claimed to know Honor from school and she was the popular girl who bullied others. They did know the name of the school so it seemed somewhat legit. There was also someone saying Honor found out someone in her friend group had attempted suicide, and she proceeded to send them death threats and 'tips'. There were screenshots but they and the post were taken down quickly as it was against that site's rules.

The issues that were quite clear and public were that G+H met up a lot during our strictest lockdowns and didn't abide by any rules. Honor was also posting photos or something of her at a house party during one lockdown. Someone on another chat site posted a quickly deleted screenshot of - I think- Grace's instagram stories where they'd met up- it was on the same day the UK recorded 1800 Covid deaths.

Obviously there's always a chance these were fake/from a different time/of someone else and I definitely take everything on these sites with a hefty pinch of salt and the unconfirmed things don't sway my opinion. But, the things we know are certain are enough to make both G+H questionable people.
 
billybobbobbob said:
This is only a recap of what I've seen for myself/what has been posted on here and other chat sites.

Honor seems to make Grace very self-conscious, they only comment about their own appearances and discuss shallow opinions. Also Honor seems to make Grace act so unlike herself- instead of chatty and care free she becomes quite, dulled down and acts like a 'mean girl'.

Honor had a private instagram and an open twitter page where she posted some anti BLM and homophobic content (I've seen screenshots, no idea how they came about or if they're still circulating). Grace had liked a post that called gay people 'sinners who choose to be gay'. There are a few other claims/rumours that were thrown around on another chat site about a year ago. Someone claimed to know Honor from school and she was the popular girl who bullied others. They did know the name of the school so it seemed somewhat legit. There was also someone saying Honor found out someone in her friend group had attempted suicide, and she proceeded to send them death threats and 'tips'. There were screenshots but they and the post were taken down quickly as it was against that site's rules.

The issues that were quite clear and public were that G+H met up a lot during our strictest lockdowns and didn't abide by any rules. Honor was also posting photos or something of her at a house party during one lockdown. Someone on another chat site posted a quickly deleted screenshot of - I think- Grace's instagram stories where they'd met up- it was on the same day the UK recorded 1800 Covid deaths.

Obviously there's always a chance these were fake/from a different time/of someone else and I definitely take everything on these sites with a hefty pinch of salt and the unconfirmed things don't sway my opinion. But, the things we know are certain are enough to make both G+H questionable people.
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I knew about the two meeting up during lockdown during the height of the pandemic and I do notice the way Grace acts when she’s a around Honour. But I had no idea about what Honour had posted on her private Instagram and Twitter. What are the usernames to the private Instagram and Twitter? Also what are these other chat sites that you speak of? Reddit or GuruGossip?
 
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hollowcrown said:
Hmmm I guess so. Lockdown 1 I think people should have been adhering to the rules pretty stringently, same in Lockdown 2 in November and the pre/post Christmas lockdown, but if its been at any time since like late Feb I think I can give them a pass.
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It’s been near constant through all the lockdowns, including going as far as drinking through the same straw during lockdown 2.

When challenged the claim has been “You don’t know when it was filmed” and there were a couple of things on the border of lockdowns that maybe that was true for, but often there were clear signs/evidence in the videos that it had happened when people thought and it would be odd for her to randomly start posting Insta stories weeks after implying they were “live” when that’s not what she normally does at all.

ETA: the other claim was that she’d made a bubble with Honor, but the Booths were fairly obviously bubbled with Chloe (and Jesse visited too - he was audible in the background of one vlog) so the rules were being broken somewhere.
 
If that is all true Honour seems like a nasty piece of work. Religion can be so absolutely toxic for some people.

CabalofBolorneaise said:
It’s been near constant through all the lockdowns, including going as far as drinking through the same straw during lockdown 2.

When challenged the claim has been “You don’t know when it was filmed” and there were a couple of things on the border of lockdowns that maybe that was true for, but often there were clear signs/evidence in the videos that it had happened when people thought and it would be odd for her to randomly start posting Insta stories weeks after implying they were “live” when that’s not what she normally does at all.

ETA: the other claim was that she’d made a bubble with Honor, but the Booths were fairly obviously bubbled with Chloe (and Jesse visited too - he was audible in the background of one vlog) so the rules were being broken somewhere.
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Seems like they have been caught in a lie I guess. Not really on for public figures to be breaking rules so openly, but from other stuff I've read hear re: dating profiles it seems Grace does not seem to think she is a public figure.
 
billybobbobbob said:
This is only a recap of what I've seen for myself/what has been posted on here and other chat sites.

Honor seems to make Grace very self-conscious, they only comment about their own appearances and discuss shallow opinions. Also Honor seems to make Grace act so unlike herself- instead of chatty and care free she becomes quite, dulled down and acts like a 'mean girl'.

Honor had a private instagram and an open twitter page where she posted some anti BLM and homophobic content (I've seen screenshots, no idea how they came about or if they're still circulating). Grace had liked a post that called gay people 'sinners who choose to be gay'. There are a few other claims/rumours that were thrown around on another chat site about a year ago. Someone claimed to know Honor from school and she was the popular girl who bullied others. They did know the name of the school so it seemed somewhat legit. There was also someone saying Honor found out someone in her friend group had attempted suicide, and she proceeded to send them death threats and 'tips'. There were screenshots but they and the post were taken down quickly as it was against that site's rules.

The issues that were quite clear and public were that G+H met up a lot during our strictest lockdowns and didn't abide by any rules. Honor was also posting photos or something of her at a house party during one lockdown. Someone on another chat site posted a quickly deleted screenshot of - I think- Grace's instagram stories where they'd met up- it was on the same day the UK recorded 1800 Covid deaths.

Obviously there's always a chance these were fake/from a different time/of someone else and I definitely take everything on these sites with a hefty pinch of salt and the unconfirmed things don't sway my opinion. But, the things we know are certain are enough to make both G+H questionable people.
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I didn’t know most of the above R.E. Honor, I generally just never warmed to her and definitely got mean girl vibes. I think that’s why I’ve never been keen because I always felt like she brought Grace down to her level.
 
jimmy&vera said:
I knew about the two meeting up during lockdown during the height of the pandemic and I do notice the way Grace acts when she’s a around Honour. But I had no idea about what Honour had posted on her private Instagram and Twitter. What are the usernames to the private Instagram and Twitter? Also what are these other chat sites that you speak of? Reddit or GuruGossip?
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No idea of the usernames- I saw the screenshots on GG- as far as I know most are taken down because the mods didn't like some of the content in the screenshots (private accounts being shared doesn't go down well). All I know is Grace's private twitter had Banksy in the name- it was like BanksyisBanksy or something- maybe someone else has seen it and remembers? And there was even a thread on Mumsnet (about youtuber recommendations) that got derailed into Grace slander regarding her lack of lockdown following and general annoyances. I'm sure there was another chat site that there were screenshots of but I can't for the life of me remember what it was. I'll have a look and see what I can find if anything.
 
billybobbobbob said:
No idea of the usernames- I saw the screenshots on GG- as far as I know most are taken down because the mods didn't like some of the content in the screenshots (private accounts being shared doesn't go down well). All I know is Grace's private twitter had Banksy in the name- it was like BanksyisBanksy or something- maybe someone else has seen it and remembers? And there was even a thread on Mumsnet (about youtuber recommendations) that got derailed into Grace slander regarding her lack of lockdown following and general annoyances. I'm sure there was another chat site that there were screenshots of but I can't for the life of me remember what it was. I'll have a look and see what I can find if anything.
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Thank for answering my questions. Could you also find the links from Mumsnet and GG because I’ searched for it but cannot seem to find it. Thank you in advanced.
 
Sorry I wasn't clear, the GG thread was pulled because we all just posted and talked about the private account and the mods were quick to delete it as it's apparently against the rules? Mumsnet pull threads if they're not relevant or get derailed and the OP kept reporting anyone who added to the thread. I imagine there are still some people on there talking about her but it's generally only good things.
 
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I try to avoid believing everything posters claim but that run down especially with screenshots is quite damning for Honor and Grace by association. I agree that Honor seems to bring Grace down...her vibe isn't as friendly and seems so precious and exclusionary (e.g. you guys don't get our incredible chemistry and inside jokes but watch and admire us all the same) so as somebody else said mean girl energy. Her instagram bio seems so self-important: " I just wanna inspire you to be your true, authentic self." LMAO what qualifies you!

It can be really hard to break away from a friend like this especially if they've been besties since childhood and had each others backs all through school.
 
billybobbobbob said:
Sorry I wasn't clear, the GG thread was pulled because we all just posted and talked about the private account and the mods were quick to delete it as it's apparently against the rules? Mumsnet pull threads if they're not relevant or get derailed and the OP kept reporting anyone who added to the thread. I imagine there are still some people on there talking about her but it's generally only good things.
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Apologies I see what you mean now.
 
emm said:
Side note I hate when people call things "steak" or whatever when they are not, why not call it a nice vegan aubergine dish? it is funny as Ramsey used to be so critical of vegetarians
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With all due respect, the word "steak" is a concept - it doesn't relate to any physical part of the animal's body that it's from. There's no part of a "steak" or "sausage" in an animals' anatomy - if you want things to be accurate, call things after the part of the animal's body it comes from.

Steak is but a concept of the shape of something - as is a burger, sausage, etc. The material doesn't matter. An aubergine steak is just as much a steak as a beefsteak - there's no steak in a cow's body, and there's no steak within an aubergine XD

If anything, the terms "steak", "ham", "burger" etc are euphemisms
 
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