Eurovision 2022

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Dianne said:
The Ukraine entry is everything I look for in a Eurovision song. Inspires the crazy interpretive dancer in me



It’s the first time I’ve ever looked forward to seeing the UK entry at the final! Can’t wait for it this year. I need some cheer and silliness. Still don’t like the new voting system though, I think it ruins it a bit.
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Ukraine will walk it get your mortgage on it :D They will win with the sympathy vote. They could have someone talk the phone book as their song and would win because of what the country has gone through. I would be absolutely amazed if they didn't win.
 
AllSeeingEye123 said:
Ukraine will walk it get your mortgage on it :D They will win with the sympathy vote. They could have someone talk the phone book as their song and would win because of what the country has gone through. I would be absolutely amazed if they didn't win.
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I hate this way of putting it. In fairness to Ukraine, they do send quality enties and Stefania is in no way a bad song and Kalush Orchestra don't want your sympathy to win. I personally think the juries will tank it given the opportunity.
 
I think this is the one year where politics may actually make a huge difference because you really need to be living under a rock to not know what’s going on. With most other politics reasoning, there’s the assumption that the majority of the audience doesn’t live in blissful ignorance and really cares about whatever specific issue

At the same time, the jury votes matter. And of course, the whole thing also depends on there not being a better song with better staging that many people like
 
_DayDreamer1- said:
I hate this way of putting it. In fairness to Ukraine, they do send quality enties and Stefania is in no way a bad song and Kalush Orchestra don't want your sympathy to win. I personally think the juries will tank it given the opportunity.
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I don't think Ukraine will win, and I really like the song. I think it'll come top 3 in televote and maybe 8th in Jury voting which isn't enough to win.

I still think Sweden has the best chance so far (I don't like the song though).
 
MrsBsDayOff said:
I don't think Ukraine will win, and I really like the song. I think it'll come top 3 in televote and maybe 8th in Jury voting which isn't enough to win.

I still think Sweden has the best chance so far (I don't like the song though).
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I don't think Ukraine will win either but some people (I mean Richard Madeley for example not AllSeeingEye123) don't seem to know 50% of the vote are juries who can easily place Ukraine in their 11th spot resulting in 0 points in a tactical move to counter the televote. They also didn't favour Go_A last year which was an ethnic folk song so I don't know why people think the juries would favour them in 2022. I saw a local earlier say Ukraine will get 12 points from everyone except Hungary and Slovakia (duh cause they aren't participating?!) so it shows how little some people do know about Eurovision.

Kalush Orchestra can't stop people voting for them because of the war but they want people to vote for them because they enjoy their song without the backlash from others that every point is for sympathy.

I have a soft spot for Estonia and Slovenia so I really hope they qualify. Ireland is fortunate this year that the UK can vote for them in the semi-final.
 
_DayDreamer1- said:
I don't think Ukraine will win either but some people (I mean Richard Madeley for example not AllSeeingEye123) don't seem to know 50% of the vote are juries who can easily place Ukraine in their 11th spot resulting in 0 points in a tactical move to counter the televote. They also didn't favour Go_A last year which was an ethnic folk song so I don't know why people think the juries would favour them in 2022.
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Juries seem to favour radio friendly songs which are mostly pop or ballads. A few anomalies here and there but you can normally understand why they’re liked by the jury. From the little I’ve heard of Ukraine, they have little chance with the jury

Also, Germany allegedly didn’t pick Eskimo Electric Callboy because their entries weren’t deemed radio friendly enough… despite all of the success they’ve had
 
_DayDreamer1- said:
I don't think Ukraine will win either but some people (I mean Richard Madeley for example not AllSeeingEye123) don't seem to know 50% of the vote are juries who can easily place Ukraine in their 11th spot resulting in 0 points in a tactical move to counter the televote. They also didn't favour Go_A last year which was an ethnic folk song so I don't know why people think the juries would favour them in 2022. I saw a local earlier say Ukraine will get 12 points from everyone except Hungary and Slovakia (duh cause they aren't participating?!) so it shows how little some people do know about Eurovision.

Kalush Orchestra can't stop people voting for them because of the war but they want people to vote for them because they enjoy their song without the backlash from others that every point is for sympathy.

I have a soft spot for Estonia and Slovenia so I really hope they qualify. Ireland is fortunate this year that the UK can vote for them in the semi-final.
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Exactly, the juries will slay Ukraine. I wonder could the juries also be thinking do they really want to hand a victory to Ukraine which could put them under pressure to host next year (or maybe the juries won't be thinking that deeply about the consequences).

I thought Go A last year were amazing and the juries didn't go for it at all, it was a better song than Stefania imo. I think the jury might give a few sympathy votes Ukraine's way, but as I said earlier i agrer with you I can't see it being enough to give Ukraine a victory.

Slovenia are very cute and the song has grown on me, really hoping it gets enough televotes to qualify and doesn't get slain by the juries.
 
Eurotrip Podcast spoke to Lee Smithurst from the BBC and he explained Sam’s PR tour has nothing to do with the BBC and is all to do with his music label. He was chosen by TAP Music for his enthusiasm, likability, social media reach, experience and his song Space Man is the first UK entry that is marketable and radio 1 friendly.

He explained the staging is Sam’s vision and whatever it is is currently on a P&O ferry to Italy.
 
ChinaHouse_0x said:
Eurotrip Podcast spoke to Lee Smithurst from the BBC and he explained Sam’s PR tour has nothing to do with the BBC and is all to do with his music label. He was chosen by TAP Music for his enthusiasm, likability, social media reach, experience and his song Space Man is the first UK entry that is marketable and radio 1 friendly.

He explained the staging is Sam’s vision and whatever it is is currently on a P&O ferry to Italy.
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So we're fucked then. It's never gonna get there. 😂
 
i was rewatching grah nort's 2014 commentary the other week (adore him btw) when russia invaded crimea. the reception was pretty awful and the booing was justified but made me feel bad for the young girls performing. i think maybe countries closely affected along with ukraine atm will give them 12 points- poland, finland, moldova etc. the ebu are strict with politics in 'normal' years, like when they banned belarus bc of their lyrics supporting lukashenko's suppression of protestors. i don't think there'll be enough generous countries to have a huge impact but the song alone has a decent chance anyway so who knows!
 
MrsBsDayOff said:
I love it, but I'm fearful the jury will kill it!

Ben Adams from A1 is rumoured to be in Subwoolfer.
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The song is too basic and non-sensical for jury points but it has immediate televote appeal. I predict similar to Norway 2019 which got low jury and the highest televote but this will be a lower score overall.
 
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