Coronavirus Disease Outbreak COVID-19 #24

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SquidgyOtter said:
So hundreds of thousands of deaths from flu is fine because some are saved due to a vaccine. Morally so wrong to be okay with some deaths as it's 'expected'. People are so desensitised now.
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Oh for goodness sake that’s not what I said at all.

You will never prevent 100% of deaths from something like flu, that’s just a fact of life. The best you can do is lower the death toll as much as possible which is what the flu vaccine does.

Honestly sick of this hysterical “you don’t care if people die” response to a perfectly reasonable perspective.
 
Bitofthebubbly said:
Oh for goodness sake that’s not what I said at all.

You will never prevent 100% of deaths from something like flu, that’s just a fact of life. The best you can do is lower the death toll as much as possible which is what the flu vaccine does.

Honestly sick of this hysterical “you don’t care if people die” response to a perfectly reasonable perspective.
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Think it's people with cancer getting their treatment delayed this person was talking about...if it's true they've got a point !!
 
I’m in Wales and due to a mess up with letters going to the wrong addresses I only received my shielding for 12 weeks letter yesterday.

I’m only in my late twenties and I’m feeling so down that I cannot leave my house at all even for a walk until July. I don’t have a garden either.

I have Crohn’s and am in a flare up, the flare up has been going for over a year, all of the medications I have tried have either dropped my immune system so low I could be hospitalised with a cold or just not worked at all, so on top of being housebound for 12 weeks I also can’t start my new medication as it’s just too risky. So I’m just managing my Crohn’s symptoms instead of treating my flare up and hoping I don’t get any worse. This is why I’m in the highest risk group, because my immune system is a total mess. Other than stomach pain my condition hasn’t held me back from doing anything so it’s not like I’m off work, I exercise and without the lockdown I would be doing the same things people without my condition would be.

Sorry for venting I know everyone is in a tit situation, I just wish family and friends would agree that me feeling crap about this is warranted instead of trying to find positives and reassure me.
 
So the FDA relax the rules on testing kits, labs themselves say the tests might not be accurate if the market is flooded with companies producing tests...so false results means can get an immunity certificate and carry on working but may still have the 'rona...as long as Trump gets to a baseball game eh!

Yeah, so Dr Fauci seems like he is really believing what he is saying 😉
 
Lars Guinard said:
So the FDA relax the rules on testing kits, labs themselves say the tests might not be accurate if the market is flooded with companies producing tests...so false results means can get an immunity certificate and carry on working but may still have the 'rona...as long as Trump gets to a baseball game eh!

Yeah, so Dr Fauci seems like he is really believing what he is saying 😉
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I thought he started off well....but now it seems to good to be true:censored:

Florida has to be one for sure 🤑
 
monga said:
Think it's people with cancer getting their treatment delayed this person was talking about...if it's true they've got a point !!
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It's definitely true, my father in law was all set to go into hospital a couple of weeks ago to start his bowel cancer treatment, and it got postponed, seemingly indefinitely, just days beforehand because the NHS hospitals have pretty much binned off everything other than treating CV.

So, he'll probably die now, because by the time they get the non-CV treatments started again, and get stuck into the backlog, he might well be too far along to warrant starting treatment.

You can imagine my family's house has not been a happy place the last few weeks, because of this.

Personally I was part way through a course of podiatry treatment which has now been shelved, so that'll have to restart all over again at some point. Nothing compared to being told your cancer treatment is cancelled of course, but still irritating. Have no idea why they've cancelled EVERYTHING, I mean what are the NHS podiatrists really now doing for coronavirus? My treatment was never in hospitals, it was in dedicated NHS podiatry rooms in different community health centres. No way those rooms or specialists are now turned over to coronavirus, they are all just standing idle, because the NHS management had this kneejerk reaction to shut everything down.

Now that they have these various Nightingale temporary hospitals around the country ready and available, the regular hospitals should all be allowed to convert back to their regular every day operations and treatments, otherwise there's going to be enormous other health problems for them to get through, such as my foot problems, and a load of unnecessarily dead people who were all set for their cancer treatment like my Father in Law.
 
Youcantsitwithus said:
I’m in Wales and due to a mess up with letters going to the wrong addresses I only received my shielding for 12 weeks letter yesterday.

I’m only in my late twenties and I’m feeling so down that I cannot leave my house at all even for a walk until July. I don’t have a garden either.

I have Crohn’s and am in a flare up, the flare up has been going for over a year, all of the medications I have tried have either dropped my immune system so low I could be hospitalised with a cold or just not worked at all, so on top of being housebound for 12 weeks I also can’t start my new medication as it’s just too risky. So I’m just managing my Crohn’s symptoms instead of treating my flare up and hoping I don’t get any worse. This is why I’m in the highest risk group, because my immune system is a total mess. Other than stomach pain my condition hasn’t held me back from doing anything so it’s not like I’m off work, I exercise and without the lockdown I would be doing the same things people without my condition would be.

Sorry for venting I know everyone is in a tit situation, I just wish family and friends would agree that me feeling crap about this is warranted instead of trying to find positives and reassure me.
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I have a few auto immune diseases and take immune suppressants, I get flare ups of my diseases too so I’m sending you hugs as I know how hard it is. Do what you can to get through each day. I’m sorry you don’t have a garden to enjoy, stand at an open window for at least ten minutes a day to get some fresh air and feel more connected to the world outside. I had to go to the Drs on Tuesday for my monthly blood tests and left the house for the first time in 4 weeks. I hated it and felt so anxious and was so relieved to get back home to my safe haven. Look at the next 12 weeks as your safe haven, do things you’ve wanted to sort out at home, allow yourself to rest and be kind to yourself. I hope you start to feel a bit better soon! x
 
SarahGard83 said:
I had my chemo pills delivered to my house. I was supposed to be having intravenous chemotherapy at the hospital and this was the first I knew of the change of treatment plan
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I'm so sorry about what you're going through, things must be so tough right now, i really hope you get all the help possible. I know words don't change much but i know there's a lot of people on here cheering you on. Sending my love x
 
Bitofthebubbly said:
Agreed. But I’m tired of people comparing covid to the flu and how we ‘allow’ people to die from flu every year when that simply isn’t true.
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Think it was just people dying in general, think they used flu as an example ..maybe they have personal reasons for what they said 😟
 
kev1974 said:
It's definitely true, my father in law was all set to go into hospital a couple of weeks ago to start his bowel cancer treatment, and it got postponed, seemingly indefinitely, just days beforehand because the NHS hospitals have pretty much binned off everything other than treating CV.

So, he'll probably die now, because by the time they get the non-CV treatments started again, and get stuck into the backlog, he might well be too far along to warrant starting treatment.

You can imagine my family's house has not been a happy place the last few weeks, because of this.

Personally I was part way through a course of podiatry treatment which has now been shelved, so that'll have to restart all over again at some point. Nothing compared to being told your cancer treatment is cancelled of course, but still irritating. Have no idea why they've cancelled EVERYTHING, I mean what are the NHS podiatrists really now doing for coronavirus? My treatment was never in hospitals, it was in dedicated NHS podiatry rooms in different community health centres. No way those rooms or specialists are now turned over to coronavirus, they are all just standing idle, because the NHS management had this kneejerk reaction to shut everything down.

Now that they have these various Nightingale temporary hospitals around the country ready and available, the regular hospitals should all be allowed to convert back to their regular every day operations and treatments, otherwise there's going to be enormous other health problems for them to get through, such as my foot problems, and a load of unnecessarily dead people who were all set for their cancer treatment like my Father in Law.
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This is what i don't get. They are saying numbers are getting better. Yet GPs have closed their doors and these huge Nightingale units are all but empty. Medical staff are doing tiktoks all over the damn place. I'm pretty sure all these doctors and specialists from other departments can't all be working on Covid wards as the numbers are too low. So help non Covid patients ffs.

So sorry about your father in law too, that is absolutely awful.
 
Tots said:
I have a few auto immune diseases and take immune suppressants, I get flare ups of my diseases too so I’m sending you hugs as I know how hard it is. Do what you can to get through each day. I’m sorry you don’t have a garden to enjoy, stand at an open window for at least ten minutes a day to get some fresh air and feel more connected to the world outside. I had to go to the Drs on Tuesday for my monthly blood tests and left the house for the first time in 4 weeks. I hated it and felt so anxious and was so relieved to get back home to my safe haven. Look at the next 12 weeks as your safe haven, do things you’ve wanted to sort out at home, allow yourself to rest and be kind to yourself. I hope you start to feel a bit better soon! x
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Thank you so much for this! I’ve done some online shopping which is bad in itself I know and been spending lots of time doing self care- yoga, skincare, reading and long baths, it just feels like such a long time and I worry that it will be extended for people like us until a vaccine is available.
 
As far as I understood it cancer treatments are not stopped fully. Treatments have been postponed or changes on a case by case basis for those who will be much more at risk of catching covid either from their weakened immune system but also from actually being in a hospital. The idea that people are dying from cancer so they are safe from a virus they wouldn’t have died from isn’t true. This isn’t a rule for all cancer patients, many are still receiving treatment.
 
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