Zoe Sugg #70 Ottie & Dotty, are names that drive you potty

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spongebob95 said:
Agreed. Compared to what you see of some other influencers/celebs kids she doesn't seem like a 'brat' in the slightest. She is certainly more well-behaved and polite (again, from what we see) than some 3-year-olds I've been around. Like how can you be pretty sure she will be entitled just because her parents are rich?😅 And before someone says 'well they shouldn't put her online to be spoken about (which I agree with she shouldn't be put online), why would calling a child you don't know a brat and assuming how they're going to end up even be on your mind.. let alone post that comment?!😬
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I don't think Ottie is a brat either, I just think she has exposure to many environments (her parents and their friends, staying with zoe's mum, staying with the deyes, sean & poppy, Joe, going places with the family) so she's quite out going and talkative. Plus she has constant engagement with people older than her so she's likely developing faster. She's not bratty, she's quite sweet and confident for a little girl. She will no doubt grow up very privileged and might never know what it's like to go without, but that's about it i reckon. No different to any other kid whose parents have money.
 
gmik8210 said:
I don't think Ottie is a brat either, I just think she has exposure to many environments (her parents and their friends, staying with zoe's mum, staying with the deyes, sean & poppy, Joe, going places with the family) so she's quite out going and talkative. Plus she has constant engagement with people older than her so she's likely developing faster. She's not bratty, she's quite sweet and confident for a little girl. She will no doubt grow up very privileged and might never know what it's like to go without, but that's about it i reckon. No different to any other kid whose parents have money.
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Yeah, maybe some people think being talkative and confident in a young child = bratty and entitled idk? 🥴 Cause I can't see how anyone could think that from the videos... She seems very smart for her age. It should be looked at as a positive thing, not a negative!
 
I don’t think Ottie is particularly smart. A lot of what she says is just her repeating whatever Zoe has said. By Ottie’s age my nephews could play independently and had friends because they were at nursery.
Ottie’s world is very small considering their privilege. Poor Novie is left sat in a high chair because Ottie seems to demand all of the attention from the adults. That’s probably why she goes to the Deyes or Tracey’s if they have to do anything because Ottie can’t play independently at all. It seems to be a social media thing for these fans to praise toddlers for being mini adults. Ottie should be able to be a child and not an extension of her reclusive mother.
 
lottiekarotti said:
Huh? Where did I say he only goes over there because he needs her for clout even though he hates it? I don't doubt he loves Zoe and Alfie and by extension their kids. But I could also imagine that it can be a bit overwhelming being the 3 year olds main entertainer every time he goes over, that's all. Like I said, I do hope he enjoys it as much as he says he does.
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The clout thing is in reference to why he would be going there if he hated it so much. I was trying to make sense of why you think he is going there when he hates the experience.
 
NinaSa said:
The clout thing is in reference to why he would be going there if he hated it so much. I was trying to make sense of why you think he is going there when he hates the experience.
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Just adding the way you wrote your original post or the way I read it was that he hates hanging with their kids and is forced to be there for some reason.

I do agree that being a 3 year old’s main entertainer is overwhelming (I have a 3 year old too so understand how it is). However it’s to be expected I think if you know the hosts have kids. My 3 year old is super excited to hang out with guests too and show them all his toys. I think it’s just a 3 year old thing and guests fully understand what awaits them.

Having said that, I do make sure my toddler leaves guests alone while they eat or go to the toilet etc. and I would try to make sure he doesn’t wake them up in the mornings so maybe Ottie is a bit overboard but that’s on her parents.
 
NinaSa said:
Having said that, I do make sure my toddler leaves guests alone while they eat or go to the toilet etc. and I would try to make sure he doesn’t wake them up in the mornings so maybe Ottie is a bit overboard but that’s on her parents.
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Agree. He couldn’t even leave the bathroom without Ottie standing there waiting for him. It’s not her fault, it’s Zoe and Alfie’s fault that she doesn’t leave Mark alone. Zoe just thinks it’s cute without realising that it’s probably annoying for Mark
 
hahahaha i knew my comment would be read that way.
kids can be confident sure, but she is ridiculously spoilt by people around her, so its not too much to believe she will grow up to be no different. gifts everyday? buying her whatever she chooses? letting her talk over people without correcting?

sorry but they are not raising her to be a normal person. she will grow up thinking she can just get everything she wants. i'm still shocked by them giving chocolate to novie lol.
 
Lilykins said:
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who the duck does this.
why is she like this?!
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And let’s remind ourselves that her sister in law was still struggling to conceive at this point and here is Zoe posting photos of her in her underwear with her bare bump. Again not saying she shouldn’t celebrate her pregnancy but this is tooooo much! And also it’s bleeping weird.
I don’t know how anyone is tolerating watching these vlogs with how much the children are being shown and their privacy taken from them. I don’t care how well they treat the girls or how privileged they are, it’s irresponsible, exploitative and also the kiddy content is bleeping boring.
The fact the public are here debating if Ottie is confident or a brat is a great demonstration on why they shouldn’t be exposing her online for Joe Public to critic.
 
Hally34 said:
The fact the public are here debating if Ottie is confident or a brat is a great demonstration on why they shouldn’t be exposing her online for Joe Public to critic.
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true, but the more people comment on it, the more likely they SHOULD be to stop filming them.
I just cant imagine how it would feel to look back and realize that the whole world had access to photos and videos of me.
 
This is SO WEIRD!!!! And yet they'll keep posting them as it keeps the money rolling in.
 

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I personally think Ottie is v cute and nowhere near and annoying and bratty as other toddlers I’ve known and been around 😂 I think there is a general misconception that being spoilt with material things and attention gives you a spoilt personality and honestly I don’t agree. Sure for some it does but it’s not a given
 
Daisypraises said:
Why on earth would they leave the footage of Ottie licking the kitchen aid in??
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I have actually just paused the vlog to come here about that. I’m gobsmacked i’ve just watched that to be honest. Absolute stupidity - letting a child lick something that is electric and still presumably plugged in. I know she turned her back but she didn’t correct her when she returned.
Neither of these two are ever going to correct these children. It’s not about punishing them when they do bad things, it’s guidance, and children need it, and parents are supposed to offer it. They are just not going to do it. They’re both totally feckless.

Not only that, and I’m totally showing my age here, but I was never allowed to eat anything that had raw egg in it because of the salmonella poisoning in the late 80’s.
 
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