The DIS Unplugged #8

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TheNextStacey said:
I do have a question about John's statement that Pete resigned as owner/editor in chief of The Dis. Then he mentions that he is currently being divested. How does one resign as the owner? Just seems like an odd thing to say. Why wouldn't he just say that he resigned as editor in chief and then add that his ownership interest is being divested. I know it's small technicality, but it was weird.
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Pete was the sole owner of The DIS (under Werner Technologies, or whatever it was/is called). As such, that enterprise could be sold outright. Werner is a co-owner, along with John and a silent third partner of Dreams Unlimited. It is the Dreams ownershiop that is being divested.
 
Charm said:
It very well could be a form of manipulation. Constant micro insults can really weigh on a person. Pete probably did it just because he could, anyone who complains either quits or gets fired. It's an exertion of power, and the fact that he does it on air speaks volumes.
I hate when people gloss over instances like this by telling the other person that they're being too sensitive, or that the abuser is from Jersey and that's just how they are... No! Either you treat people with respect, or you don't. If someone lets you know that they feel offended by something, than discuss it and fix it. That workplace didn't have healthy communication, and they didn't care.
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Right.
The "maybe it's you" group think is toxic when people know in their heart something is off with the way someone is being treated.

I'm not saying to go all in on being offended, just stick to facts... something is wrong, fix it. Seems many people get too emotional and that leads to more problems making them an easy target for more humiliation.
 
TheNextStacey said:
I do have a question about John's statement that Pete resigned as owner/editor in chief of The Dis. Then he mentions that he is currently being divested. How does one resign as the owner? Just seems like an odd thing to say. Why wouldn't he just say that he resigned as editor in chief and then add that his ownership interest is being divested. I know it's small technicality, but it was weird.
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Probably because he was intentionally trying to hide the fact that they were still negotiating Pete's payout*, ie, will continue to profit from the DIS and DUT, at least for a while. Gotta keep those bookings, advertiser checks and Patreon subscriptions coming!

*acknowledging that the AmEx bill may cut down the size of the payout
 
Charm said:
It very well could be a form of manipulation. Constant micro insults can really weigh on a person. Pete probably did it just because he could, anyone who complains either quits or gets fired. It's an exertion of power, and the fact that he does it on air speaks volumes.
I hate when people gloss over instances like this by telling the other person that they're being too sensitive, or that the abuser is from Jersey and that's just how they are... No! Either you treat people with respect, or you don't. If someone lets you know that they feel offended by something, than discuss it and fix it. That workplace didn't have healthy communication, and they didn't care.
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But gay men do this? As a form of reclaiming words that are derogatory. I think misgendering each other counts, correct me if I’m wrong.
 
Thunderbirdtoo said:
Probably because he was intentionally trying to hide the fact that they were still negotiating Pete's payout*, ie, will continue to profit from the DIS and DUT, at least for a while. Gotta keep those bookings, advertiser checks and Patreon subscriptions coming!

*acknowledging that the AmEx bill may cut down the size of the payout
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The funniest thing I found was in John's words of something like it's a growing and flourishing business. When having to buyout your business partner, you might not want to put a statement like that in which Pete and his Lawyers can grab on to the value being higher than what it is worth to get a bigger payout! Not a great business strategy for John!
 
Happiest said:
I wonder what the fans pay to attend the meet ups and if they are allowed access to once in a lifetime experiences of Disney that they could never enjoy without attending these events.
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IIRC, the first party at TSMM in DHS was free to attend. I'm sure it was paid for by DUT, to promote the TA. Then there was a nominal fee, around $25 or $50. I don't know what this one cost, but in recent years, it's been close to the price of the Orlando Informer meetups at Universal.
 
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Oh tit finally someone picked it up.

Does our favorite noted tank top wearer put that on for us!?
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For all the talk, almost desperately, from Magi on how successful he and his business is it seems from the article the company couldn’t make payroll recently. Much of that perhaps because of PW but surely The chief of the pretzels knew of the financial problems, while avoiding the more serious personal issues, within the company. It is dreams that pays the bills so yet another layer on the tit cake that is the DIS/Dreams
 
Love_the_kitz said:
I'm a formerly active member over on the DISboards and I can attest to the opposite to what is being said there. While there are a few intelligent, well mannered and friendly people over on the DIS (I still frequent one thread with nice people I've gotten to know) the bulk of them are there only to make sure they get what they need and no one one-ups them. They don't hold back on attacking anyone who does not add to what they need.

Examples of posts:
  • A post about how to earn money for a trip. The OP was thrashed for suggesting she/he needed money more than them.
  • A person offering hints on how to cheat the refillable cup system went viral with praise. ... They're sick to the point that they caused Disney to change the system entirely.
Here we do have some mean folk who exist for spite, but for the most part what I see are humans with brains calling out and trying to figure out crappy behavior.
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There are plenty of more sinister examples of this, but the one that popped into my head immediately is Rose Gold, who seriously seems to exist purely to pick petty arguments with ppl about NOTHING of substance.
 
Thunderbirdtoo said:
Probably because he was intentionally trying to hide the fact that they were still negotiating Pete's payout*, ie, will continue to profit from the DIS and DUT, at least for a while. Gotta keep those bookings, advertiser checks and Patreon subscriptions coming!

*acknowledging that the AmEx bill may cut down the size of the payout
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Or that the payout will be over a long period of time and/or be tied to a percentage of income/profits.

John and Donna might not just have the money sitting around to buy Pete out with one giant check. Or if they do, they may prefer to hold onto the cash and just put Pete on a payment plan.
 
Love_the_kitz said:
I'm a formerly active member over on the DISboards and I can attest to the opposite to what is being said there. While there are a few intelligent, well mannered and friendly people over on the DIS (I still frequent one thread with nice people I've gotten to know) the bulk of them are there only to make sure they get what they need and no one one-ups them. They don't hold back on attacking anyone who does not add to what they need.

Examples of posts:
  • A post about how to earn money for a trip. The OP was thrashed for suggesting she/he needed money more than them.
  • A person offering hints on how to cheat the refillable cup system went viral with praise. ... They're sick to the point that they caused Disney to change the system entirely.
Here we do have some mean folk who exist for spite, but for the most part what I see are humans with brains calling out and trying to figure out crappy behavior.
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What kills me about the DIS Boards people is that they can’t handle anything that isn’t Disney is perfect.

In January 2020 we had a handicap accessible room for my family and my disabled parents that was literally falling apart around us…bugs, busted and collapsed furniture and no one was willing to help. Disney’s response was “sorry you’re not having a magical vacation” and when I mentioned it on the boards they came for me.
Those people are over the top and unrealistic with their defense of Disney and the DIS.
 
Love_the_kitz said:
Cheering him on?
That's exactly what Pete loves.

I'm so behind and not quite sure who initially accused Pete of what, but it is clear that numerous folk have stepped up and confirmed that he's pulled crap on them... and by crap I mean illegal tit, like cameras in the bathrooms.

Has anyone called the police on him or is this all just BS venting? (Enough with the me too.) Is anyone taking him to court?
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I have missed you 🙂
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erikaelvis said:
I have a sinking feeling that Disney will take no action on The Dis or Dreams if they say Pete has been removed from the company. I DO think that Pete will no longer enjoy the fanfare of "they know it's me here" (let all the cast members rejoice). I also think that before this Pete rarely went on property and I really don't think he will make a habit of it for quite some time. I am interested to know if Disney will pull his DTA credentials. You do get some discounts such as cruise, ticket, and hotel discounts.
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I think Disney may need to look deeper since many of these alleged acts (I’m a believer but this isn’t a closed forum anymore) happened on Disney property, cruises, ABD
 
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pnxcoco said:
What kills me about the DIS Boards people is that they can’t handle anything that isn’t Disney is perfect.

In January 2020 we had a handicap accessible room for my family and my disabled parents that was literally falling apart around us…bugs, busted and collapsed furniture and no one was willing to help. Disney’s response was “sorry you’re not having a magical vacation” and when I mentioned it on the boards they came for me.
Those people are over the top and unrealistic with their defense of Disney and the DIS.
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This does not surprise me at all and goes to the pattern I have been hearing about for years. It never happened to me, but at least two people I know. They can criticize this site all they want, but bullying and censorship has existed over there for years and years.
 
Love_the_kitz said:
I'm a formerly active member over on the DISboards and I can attest to the opposite to what is being said there. While there are a few intelligent, well mannered and friendly people over on the DIS (I still frequent one thread with nice people I've gotten to know) the bulk of them are there only to make sure they get what they need and no one one-ups them. They don't hold back on attacking anyone who does not add to what they need.

Examples of posts:
  • A post about how to earn money for a trip. The OP was thrashed for suggesting she/he needed money more than them.
  • A person offering hints on how to cheat the refillable cup system went viral with praise. ... They're sick to the point that they caused Disney to change the system entirely.
Here we do have some mean folk who exist for spite, but for the most part what I see are humans with brains calling out and trying to figure out crappy behavior.
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I used to post regularly but stopped contributing to anything but a couple of the Resort threads to answer questions mainly due to the mods being so bitchy (especially in the Theme Parks thread).

RescueRanger said:
I hope Sean is enjoying vacation. I was worried when we hadn’t heard from him in a while.
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Sean posted today...

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Thunderbirdtoo said:
Didn't Sean say at one point Pete tried to fire him, but John interceded, saying firing him for Petty Pete's personal reasons could create an HR issue for the company? And that's when Sean was given a job as a DUT agent? If that's the case, it's clear that John knew Pete was a liability, and chose to look the other way.

Because while "Pete's an owner and can't be fired," may technically be true, no one forced John to stay in business with him. John is a grown man, with a lot of financial privilege and resources. Would it have cost him money to get out of the partnership? Of course, but if he's the great businessman he wants everyone to think he is, he could have started another business or gotten another job.

The real question for me is, can you put a price tag on your integrity and personal moral values? Apparently, in John's case, you can. And that price is a couple of rental properties, luxury vacations, and some Louis Vuitton bags.
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i’m so pleased that the phrase petty pete werner is catching on
 
dlsoc said:
I used to post regularly but stopped contributing to anything but a couple of the Resort threads to answer questions mainly due to the mods being so bitchy (especially in the Theme Parks thread).
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Yup :) I've probably seen you in there (under different names of course).
Even in the resort threads the problem children will come in - they're there to make sure they have the best room request, know all the tricks to get the most out of the resort and wonder what rules can be bent. I answer them with facts and they quickly get the vibe that the resorts are not for abuse and leave the thread. It's nice.
 
Ghost of Bob Varley said:
Or that the payout will be over a long period of time and/or be tied to a percentage of income/profits.

John and Donna might not just have the money sitting around to buy Pete out with one giant check. Or if they do, they may prefer to hold onto the cash and just put Pete on a payment plan.
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There's all sorts of scenarios that could be playing out BTS. It also could (and likely would be) dependent on the outcome of the AMEX case. While not a primary concern, if Pete sells at a steep discount, it also potentially devalues the shares of DUT for the other owners (which could play out anyway if sales take a hit from the circumstance). It's not particularly easy to unwind this, and as folks have mentioned, they're unwinding both DUT and TheDis, and this will take a lot of time to determine valuation, payment, and the pending lawsuit is just an additional wrench in an already complex situation.
 
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