Strictly Come Dancing 2023 #19

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What Pro’s do we think need the boot next year

Karen, Giovanni & Dianne would be my top 3 picks.

TBH, I'd look to get rid of everyone bar Kai, Nikita, Carlos, Vito, Lauren & Jowita in the next 5 years. Perhaps a couple of them can take on other roles on the show though. Could do with a new judge, new podcast host, new head choreographer...
 
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Karen, Giovanni & Dianne would be my top 3 picks.

TBH, I'd look to get rid of everyone bar Kai, Nikita, Carlos, Vito, Lauren & Jowita in the next 5 years. Perhaps a couple of them can take on other roles on the show though. Could do with a new judge, new podcast host, new head choreographer...
New singers needed too
What Pro’s do we think need the boot next year
Think Gorka may have run his course with the show now, much as I adore his 🍑 and certainly Karen needs to do something new.
 
Are Bobby’s family all voting like mad, what am I missing?? I don’t get it!

if he wins, I’ll be livid 🤣 the lights are on but no one is home. bleeping hell.

He gets a strong Insta score, which isn't too surprising really, so that bumps him up a lot. I usually put more weight in FB. Ellie was easily the most popular this time, across both platforms. Angela R does well on both.
 
YouTube views for this week:

Angela R: 314k
Ellie: 247k
Layton: 205k

No-one else was close.
Angela R?! WTF?! Who is looking up that dance?! 🙈😂
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Thing with Facebook & Insta is you have a generation split. I’m early 30’s & a few people I know still use Facebook but not many. Any friends I have under 30 don’t use it at all. Friends 40+ do use Facebook. Nearly everyone I know around my age or younger uses Insta. The over 40’s, not so much. The youngest people I know don’t use either! Its all about TikTok (Obvs this is generalising but on the whole, social media appeals to specific generations)

I suspect Facebook is the core of the Strictly audience. Millennials and upwards. YouTube is probably the most indicative as it’s universal.
 
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Are Bobby’s family all voting like mad, what am I missing?? I don’t get it!

if he wins, I’ll be livid 🤣 the lights are on but no one is home. bleeping hell.

i will literally never watch again if he wins. you will NEVER see me on this thread again 🤣

i hate “aw look at his little face, he’s so lovely” winners anyway and he would be the absolute epitome of that.
 
i will literally never watch again if he wins. you will NEVER see me on this thread again 🤣

i hate “aw look at his little face, he’s so lovely” winners anyway and he would be the absolute epitome of that.
He just hasn't done a really good dance yet! his best was probably the samba? which was fine, but not memorable. All of the others in the top half have produced at least one memorable dance/moment. Surely he can't just drift to a win on being a Nice Young Man With a Tragic Backstory?

(For whoever was mentioning FB as the core demographic above, looking at the groups I've been really surprised how much positive sentiment Ellie is getting. And lots of Beryls saying they didn't like Vito last year when he was with Fleur (wonder why?!) but now they do. But my gut instinct is always that it's gonna be easier for a man to win, so I still think it's probably Bobby's or Nigel's if he can get past the #nerves and pull off another really good routine).
 
He just hasn't done a really good dance yet! his best was probably the samba? which was fine, but not memorable. All of the others in the top half have produced at least one memorable dance/moment. Surely he can't just drift to a win on being a Nice Young Man With a Tragic Backstory?

(For whoever was mentioning FB as the core demographic above, looking at the groups I've been really surprised how much positive sentiment Ellie is getting. And lots of Beryls saying they didn't like Vito last year when he was with Fleur (wonder why?!) but now they do. But my gut instinct is always that it's gonna be easier for a man to win, so I still think it's probably Bobby's or Nigel's if he can get past the #nerves and pull off another really good routine).

agreed. even the “but he seems so nice” winners (hamza for one) have had one really showstopping dance. and also a personality. bobby has neither, at least so far.

it absolutely will always be easier for a man to win this show. i hold out hope for nigel’s nerves but i do fear it will be bobby. it would be disingenuous of me to say i want krishnan as he too would be a very high level “but he just looks like he’s having the best time!” winner 🤦🏼‍♀️ and we know layton won’t be able to win enough voters over.
 
He just hasn't done a really good dance yet! his best was probably the samba? which was fine, but not memorable. All of the others in the top half have produced at least one memorable dance/moment. Surely he can't just drift to a win on being a Nice Young Man With a Tragic Backstory?

(For whoever was mentioning FB as the core demographic above, looking at the groups I've been really surprised how much positive sentiment Ellie is getting. And lots of Beryls saying they didn't like Vito last year when he was with Fleur (wonder why?!) but now they do. But my gut instinct is always that it's gonna be easier for a man to win, so I still think it's probably Bobby's or Nigel's if he can get past the #nerves and pull off another really good routine).
The support for Ellie on FB is overwhelming, I think droves are falling for Vito and dropping Gio. Hardly a whisper about Angela R, apart from saying she’s overscored all the time. I’d say Bobby is probably second in popularity.
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What Pro’s do we think need the boot next year
Nadiya, Karen, Neil , Gio.
 
What Pro’s do we think need the boot next year
I think Karen is done with the show. She was positively buzzing on ITT after being voted out, it was the happiest I’ve seen her all series.
Gorka seems bored and doesn’t compare well to the newer males. He should go.
Think Nancy will be on the bench if Amy is back.
Think Gio was planning for this to be his last year, but he won’t leave on such a low.
Michelle seems pointless.
And if Neil is never getting a celebrity again then he is pointless too.
 
agreed. even the “but he seems so nice” winners (hamza for one) have had one really showstopping dance. and also a personality. bobby has neither, at least so far.

it absolutely will always be easier for a man to win this show. i hold out hope for nigel’s nerves but i do fear it will be bobby. it would be disingenuous of me to say i want krishnan as he too would be a very high level “but he just looks like he’s having the best time!” winner 🤦🏼‍♀️ and we know layton won’t be able to win enough voters over.
I wouldn't object at all to a lovely Krishnan win, and he clearly has some backing - maybe if his CC is amazing a la Bill Bailey he can get some momentum? But I also shudder to think of some of the party Latin coming up for him that will surely do him in.
 
agreed. even the “but he seems so nice” winners (hamza for one) have had one really showstopping dance. and also a personality. bobby has neither, at least so far.

it absolutely will always be easier for a man to win this show. i hold out hope for nigel’s nerves but i do fear it will be bobby. it would be disingenuous of me to say i want krishnan as he too would be a very high level “but he just looks like he’s having the best time!” winner 🤦🏼‍♀️ and we know layton won’t be able to win enough voters over.
It’s funny really, because series 3 was the absolute pinnacle of desperation for a male win. I honestly think they thought they would never get a male winner and the panic was palpable. Whole judging panels about how it was harder for men, especially big rufty tufty blokey bloke sportsmen from Yorkshire. I think at some point the penny dropped they might have gone too hard, but it was too late by then.
 
I wouldn't object at all to a lovely Krishnan win, and he clearly has some backing - maybe if his CC is amazing a la Bill Bailey he can get some momentum? But I also shudder to think of some of the party Latin coming up for him that will surely do him in.

krishnan is lovely but, not gonna lie, i would be salty if he won (in the same way i was salty over bill bailey too 🤣) - but then i am a deeply cynical person. i do think it would mean a great deal to him and lauren, whereas i’m still not sure bobby fully gets what he’s doing every weekend.
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I think Karen is done with the show. She was positively buzzing on ITT after being voted out, it was the happiest I’ve seen her all series.
Gorka seems bored and doesn’t compare well to the newer males. He should go.
Think Nancy will be on the bench if Amy is back.
Think Gio was planning for this to be his last year, but he won’t leave on such a low.
Michelle seems pointless.
And if Neil is never getting a celebrity again then he is pointless too.

fully agree that this year is the last we’ll see of karen on the show. she was just completely checked out. intrigued to see how gorka plays it as there just doesn’t seem to be a place for him there anymore.

it does all depend on if amy comes back but, if she does, i think they’ll want both her and lauren so agree that nancy could be benched. i also hope luba has shown enough to get another regular slot next year!
 
YouTube views for this week:

Angela R: 314k
Ellie: 247k
Layton: 205k

No-one else was close.
Angela R?! WTF?! Who is looking up that dance?! 🙈😂
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Thing with Facebook & Insta is you have a generation split. I’m early 30’s & a few people I know still use Facebook but not many. Any friends I have under 30 don’t use it at all. Friends 40+ do use Facebook. Nearly everyone I know around my age or younger uses Insta. The over 40’s, not so much. The youngest people I know don’t use either! Its all about TikTok (Obvs this is generalising but on the whole, social media appeals to specific generations)

I suspect Facebook is the core of the Strictly audience. Millennials and upwards. YouTube is probably the most indicative as it’s universal.
I think it was the murder she wrote theme that resulted in the popularity of their dance, it was a great theme tbh!! 😅
 
krishnan is lovely but, not gonna lie, i would be salty if he won (in the same way i was salty over bill bailey too 🤣) - but then i am a deeply cynical person. i do think it would mean a great deal to him and lauren, whereas i’m still not sure bobby fully gets what he’s doing every weekend.
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fully agree that this year is the last we’ll see of karen on the show. she was just completely checked out. intrigued to see how gorka plays it as there just doesn’t seem to be a place for him there anymore.

it does all depend on if amy comes back but, if she does, i think they’ll want both her and lauren so agree that nancy could be benched. i also hope luba has shown enough to get another regular slot next year!
Agreed. I think Lauren and Luba have both done enough to get partners next year.
 
I watched the German one this year, and the ITT segment made the improv dance seem a lot sillier than it is. It's not a dance they haven't done before - for two people it was even the dance they'd done only the previous week (which still didn't stop it being a car crash for one of them - he completely froze up, the audience saved him though.) They just have 90 seconds to get changed and pick the song and then another 30 seconds for the pro to tell/show them what to do, which is mostly just reordered choreography from their earlier performance. So hilariously mean of them to make them get changed in the time limit, but it's not as completely insane as a new dance with absolutely no rehearsal!
 
At the moment I don’t mind if Ellie, Nigel, Layton or Krishnan win. Shame it’s a 3 person final. People I know that vote so far their constant vote every week has been Ellie and then other votes going with a mixture of Nigel, Layton, Bobby, Krishnan and Angela S.
 
I can't think of who I would get rid of, offhand. I'm a creature of habit so wouldn't like a big sweep / clear out 😁

Karen was definitely not tuned in at all this year, until she was eliminated. And I feel that Eddie could have had a better experience partnered with someone else.

As regards Gorka, I am sure he knew he had a non-dancer on his hands, but he made it a good experience for her, imo. And I'm not particularly a fan of his. But their performances always made me smile because they were upbeat and looked like they were enjoying themselves.

In no particular order 😁 I would like Lauren and Luba to have partners again next year. And Katya and Nancy.
Also Nikita, Vito, Graziano and Carlos.

Lol, better stop there before I name everyone.
 
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