Sir Keir Starmer #2

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IngressUK said:
Not only women. Gay, lesbian and Trans people will have something to fear too.

If some think blindly supporting Gaza will help them when the time comes, they are very much mistaken.

We have already seen anti LGBT teaching protests outside schools in Birmingham by people of a certain religion. How long until this is extended to other things, such as LGBT venues and Birmingham Pride.
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If it hadn't been for discovering oil (and selling it to the west) Islam would have died out 50 years ago. It suppresses education, enterprise, women, critical thinking and maintains an ideology driven dictatorship.
 
Problem is that most of the lefties who insist there isn’t a problem with immigration are living in middle class enclaves doing middle class jobs, probably working from home, where they can easily avoid the reality while they virtue signal about how anti racist they are.
 
Theodore said:
Problem is that most of the lefties who insist there isn’t a problem with immigration are living in middle class enclaves doing middle class jobs, probably working from home, where they can easily avoid the reality while they virtue signal about how anti racist they are.
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But the ones who are concerned live in places like Clacton where over 95% of people are white 🤔
 
HelloStereo said:
How is it any more inaccurate and sweeping than saying people who are pro immigration are middle class lefties who work from home in a middle class enclave.
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Well it’s obviously true! Not only am I working from home and think that generally speaking immigration is a positive thing, I have actual immigrants in my family. It’s as 100% accurate as saying that every single person who voted for Farage is a disgusting racist.
*waves ostentatiously from middle class lefty enclave*
 
Miss Begotten said:
Well it’s obviously true! Not only am I working from home and think that generally speaking immigration is a positive thing, I have actual immigrants in my family. It’s as 100% accurate as saying that every single person who voted for Farage is a disgusting racist.
*waves ostentatiously from middle class lefty enclave*
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And if it is one person's experience it must be true for everyone! 😉
 
Soulless technocrats don't work anymore. It's all about personality now. Kier doesn't have one. Sorry. I was going to write that Sir Kier exudes all the smarmy warmth of a double-glazing salesman invited into the home of an old dear. But he doesn't even have that. Kier has zero bleeping charm. It's rare. No personality, no wit, no twinkle. Nothing. Nada. I just can't get onboard with the bloke. He doesn't inspire me as a leader and duck knows I need some inspiration right now as I suspect most of us do. I look at Kier and listen to Kier and I just want to curl-up into a little ball and hope everything just goes away. Time up? Oh sorry … I was rambling there, thanks for the therapy session Dr. Tattle. 😬
 
Ndrangheta said:
Soulless technocrats don't work anymore. It's all about personality now. Kier doesn't have one. Sorry. I was going to write that Sir Kier exudes all the smarmy warmth of a double-glazing salesman invited into the home of an old dear. But he doesn't even have that. Kier has zero bleeping charm. It's rare. No personality, no wit, no twinkle. Nothing. Nada. I just can't get onboard with the bloke. He doesn't inspire me as a leader and duck knows I need some inspiration right now as I suspect most of us do. I look at Kier and listen to Kier and I just want to curl-up into a little ball and hope everything just goes away. Time up? Oh sorry … I was rambling there, thanks for the therapy session Dr. Tattle. 😬
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He has no personality because he has no sense of humour. Neither does Phillipson. And certainly not Reeves. And shallow as that may sound, a sense of humour or razor sharp wit is a sign of real intelligence - not learned intelligence. It’s a sign of a human touch. And because he and a lot of his front bench are entirely devoid of this, they will not last.
It’s why love him or loathe him, Farage cuts through. As did Boris. The people who love either of those two, really love them; Starmer inspires at best, indifference, at worst, utter loathing.
I don’t know how much of this our nation has to endure. It makes me want to weep. And I used to be a Labour supporter. (Although not in this GE.) Starmer is just so spectacularly bad at politics.
 
I agree, there is something absolutely lacking in Starmer (and most of the cabinet for that matter). It makes me miss the Labour politicians of old.
Tony Benn came to speak at my university back in the early 90s, he was a fantastic orator, completely engaged the audience...I could have listened to him for hours. God knows what he would make of the current Labour leadership!
 
Lalla said:
I agree, there is something absolutely lacking in Starmer (and most of the cabinet for that matter). It makes me miss the Labour politicians of old.
Tony Benn came to speak at my university back in the early 90s, he was a fantastic orator, completely engaged the audience...I could have listened to him for hours. God knows what he would make of the current Labour leadership!
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Years ago there was an interview with Tony Benn and Ted Heath. David Frost was the interviewer but he just sat back and let them talk, just intervening occasionally.
Two elder statesmen, agreeing to disagree but respecting each other’s views.
Even admitting on occasion that with hindsight they might have been wrong and the other one right.
No oneupmanship. No putting each other down. Just agreeing that each other was doing what they thought was best at the time.
 
kitsybalfour said:
He has no personality because he has no sense of humour. Neither does Phillipson. And certainly not Reeves. And shallow as that may sound, a sense of humour or razor sharp wit is a sign of real intelligence - not learned intelligence. It’s a sign of a human touch. And because he and a lot of his front bench are entirely devoid of this, they will not last.
It’s why love him or loathe him, Farage cuts through. As did Boris. The people who love either of those two, really love them; Starmer inspires at best, indifference, at worst, utter loathing.
I don’t know how much of this our nation has to endure. It makes me want to weep. And I used to be a Labour supporter. (Although not in this GE.) Starmer is just so spectacularly bad at politics.
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You've hit the nail on the head re Starmer being humourless. He completely lacks imagination, which does actually matter. He says that he doesn't dream; doesn't know if he's an optimist or pessimist or whether he's an introvert or extrovert. To me that shows a complete lack of introspection, lack of emotional intelligence and detachment from the wider world apart from hard facts and figures. He also has an alarming tendency to refer to himself in the 3rd person at times: one of my pet hates.

Being dull shouldn't matter - we've had clowns like Johnson in charge - but Starmer being without a vision and clearly being a poor politician, will define and condemn his premiership. Things have started off so badly for him and he's unlikely to be able to find the decisions to turn things around. He's doing a reset this week[ but resetting what? I couldn't tell you what his five missions are, so a reset will be meaningless. Just more waffle.
 
Dinate said:
He's doing a reset this week[ but resetting what? I couldn't tell you what his five missions are, so a reset will be meaningless. Just more waffle.
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It's strange to have a reset not long after a budget

I think the missions are
Smash the gangs, a stupid impossible mission and phrase. could take a year to target one gang and it that's crushed 10 more pop up to take its palce
Grow the economy, not gonna happen with the tax changes and businesses have said so
Fix the NHS, not gonna happen as the extra money will be taken up by the pay rises
 
He can announce a reset all he likes, but it will be the markets and the BOE who dictate exactly what that reset is. Not a single member of that cabinet have any real world experience - never run a company, just come straight out of think tanks. If the economy doesn’t hand their arses to them on a plate (taking us all with it unfortunately), then Reform at the next GE will.

It’s all a bit crap folks. I still can’t believe this human charisma vacuum went after old folk first. I don’t know who the new equivalent of Simon Case is but surely, surely some Whitehall wonk is watching this tit show and is about to press the button to make it stop?!
(Or not tbf. Didn’t happen with Johnson, I suppose.)
 
Dinate said:
You've hit the nail on the head re Starmer being humourless. He completely lacks imagination, which does actually matter. He says that he doesn't dream; doesn't know if he's an optimist or pessimist or whether he's an introvert or extrovert. To me that shows a complete lack of introspection, lack of emotional intelligence and detachment from the wider world apart from hard facts and figures. He also has an alarming tendency to refer to himself in the 3rd person at times: one of my pet hates.

Being dull shouldn't matter - we've had clowns like Johnson in charge - but Starmer being without a vision and clearly being a poor politician, will define and condemn his premiership. Things have started off so badly for him and he's unlikely to be able to find the decisions to turn things around. He's doing a reset this week[ but resetting what? I couldn't tell you what his five missions are, so a reset will be meaningless. Just more waffle.
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He completely lacks imagination, which does actually matter. He says that he doesn't dream; doesn't know if he's an optimist or pessimist or whether he's an introvert or extrovert.

I recall reading somewhere that in response to a question he said he didn't have an "inner voice". He doesn't internally make comments to himself, or put thoughts into words (and it's pretty obvious that he hasn't the imagination to put thoughts into pictures, so must think abstractly, I would imagine).

To me there is something robotic and emotionless about him. I wouldn't like to be in a relationship with someone like that.
 
You only have to look at the eyes. Squinty, rat-like, weak. The eyes of a weak, inconsequential man.

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Dame Christine Bleakley said:
Both Labour and Torys social media feeds are an embarrassment. Petty misleading posts with meaningless rhetoric. So juvenile.
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Apart from a few, most of the political class in Britiain is an embarrassment. I particularly hold in distain ex-soap stars and former daytime tv presenters. :rolleyes:
What the hell is this relaunch bollocks exactly? I want to see LESS of these idiots, not more. Just go back to your offices, keep your head down and try and sort of this mess of a country. I don't want tacky bleeping PR exercises and word salads. Drives me potty. I guess everyone involved will get at least a half day off work, some mince pies ... etc. etc. Nice work if you can get it.
 
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