Sarah & Josh (POG family)

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riley123 said:
comment on her sister's vlog:
"I was a hospice nurse for years, and a family like yours is truly rare. Such love and support. Pat yourselves on the back. Many prayers."

What does she mean? Other families are ignoring or abandoning their loved ones who are in hospice? I don't believe that.
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Actually, as a former hospice nurse, yes abandonment and people who have no one left who cares enough to be even inconvenienced happens all.the.time. The long term care facilities are filled with Medicare pts just like that. 😓
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helpmeunderstand? said:
Actually, as a former hospice nurse, yes abandonment and people who have no one left who cares enough to be even inconvenienced happens all.the.time. The long term care facilities are filled with Medicare pts just like that. 😓
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…as are the psychiatric facilities and the acute care hospitals, and, and, and….

Try and tell me this world doesn’t need saving!
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helpmeunderstand? said:
Why indeed.

Actually, I get it. Every single one of us will die one day. So for those who have little experience with death, there is a natural and serious interest in what it might be like to die. Having said that, I do not think that such a sincere and pure interest is what is sparking that massive uptick in their channel? Furthermore, it is highly likely that Josh and other members of Sarah’s family may find the whole thing disturbing later on. I cannot imagine what her mother and father might be going through? Or what her little daughter might feel about it all 10 or 20 years down the road. What do the rest of you think?
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Even if I had a natural interest in the process of death, I wouldn't turn to youtube. There is enough programmes on documentaries available for those that are curious. Autopsy, The funeral home, Life after Death, plus many more. They all show the process of death right through to embalming bodies.
I have witnessed a few deaths in my family and I truely wish that I hadn't. I wish I only had the memories of them when they was alive, not suffering and happy. That's me being honest.
A relative of mine had cancer which spread to her brain. The only way that I can describe what I experienced is that it was like she had regressed back to being a child. The last few weeks of her life was spent either sleeping, or watching cartoons on TV. She could sit watching cartoons in silence for hours on end, and whenever I asked what she watching? She would stare at me and say "I don't know, do you?"
A relative asked if she could phone her so I gave her her own mobile phone. She stared at the phone and had no idea what to do with it. After I dialled the number and connected them, she literally said a few words and dropped the phone to the floor mid sentence. Whatever thoughts/memories that came into her mind, quickly then left her mind. An inability to remember and an inability to withhold information. Which is similar to what I witnessed in Sarahs video. Sarah was 'dancing', but she looked dazed and confused, not knowing where to put her hand :( Smiling but didn't appear to understand.
 
helpmeunderstand? said:
Actually, as a former hospice nurse, yes abandonment and people who have no one left who cares enough to be even inconvenienced happens all.the.time. The long term care facilities are filled with Medicare pts just like that. 😓
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…as are the psychiatric facilities and the acute care hospitals, and, and, and….

Try and tell me this world doesn’t need saving!
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Perhaps she meant that they are having Sarah at home rather than abandoning her at a hospice facility. I should have clarified my thoughts. For those who have home hospice, I don't think families are ignoring them in the home.
 
Saydee said:
Even if I had a natural interest in the process of death, I wouldn't turn to youtube. There is enough programmes on documentaries available for those that are curious. Autopsy, The funeral home, Life after Death, plus many more. They all show the process of death right through to embalming bodies.
I have witnessed a few deaths in my family and I truely wish that I hadn't. I wish I only had the memories of them when they was alive, not suffering and happy. That's me being honest.
A relative of mine had cancer which spread to her brain. The only way that I can describe what I experienced is that it was like she had regressed back to being a child. The last few weeks of her life was spent either sleeping, or watching cartoons on TV. She could sit watching cartoons in silence for hours on end, and whenever I asked what she watching? She would stare at me and say "I don't know, do you?"
A relative asked if she could phone her so I gave her her own mobile phone. She stared at the phone and had no idea what to do with it. After I dialled the number and connected them, she literally said a few words and dropped the phone to the floor mid sentence. Whatever thoughts/memories that came into her mind, quickly then left her mind. An inability to remember and an inability to withhold information. Which is similar to what I witnessed in Sarahs video. Sarah was 'dancing', but she looked dazed and confused, not knowing where to put her hand :( Smiling but didn't appear to understand.
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I think that's exactly what is happening with Sarah. So damn sad. I don't say this to be unkind but I hope she doesn't linger for weeks or months.
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It's the biggest heat wave in history, my wife is barely holding on to life but don't ya need a buff to go with this dose of overwhelming sadness?
 
Saydee said:
Even if I had a natural interest in the process of death, I wouldn't turn to youtube. There is enough programmes on documentaries available for those that are curious. Autopsy, The funeral home, Life after Death, plus many more. They all show the process of death right through to embalming bodies.
I have witnessed a few deaths in my family and I truely wish that I hadn't. I wish I only had the memories of them when they was alive, not suffering and happy. That's me being honest.
A relative of mine had cancer which spread to her brain. The only way that I can describe what I experienced is that it was like she had regressed back to being a child. The last few weeks of her life was spent either sleeping, or watching cartoons on TV. She could sit watching cartoons in silence for hours on end, and whenever I asked what she watching? She would stare at me and say "I don't know, do you?"
A relative asked if she could phone her so I gave her her own mobile phone. She stared at the phone and had no idea what to do with it. After I dialled the number and connected them, she literally said a few words and dropped the phone to the floor mid sentence. Whatever thoughts/memories that came into her mind, quickly then left her mind. An inability to remember and an inability to withhold information. Which is similar to what I witnessed in Sarahs video. Sarah was 'dancing', but she looked dazed and confused, not knowing where to put her hand :( Smiling but didn't appear to understand.
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For me, it was the Youtube algorithm that brought me to all these cancer channels. I was watching Krocks in the Kitchen, saw their cancer journey videos, and then my recommendations started to get filled with similar channels. I couldn't help but click on a few, and after watching one, it was easy to keep watching another.

I think I'll only keep watching the POG channel for a few weeks after Sarah passes just to see how the family is getting on, but after that I don't want to follow any more of these channels. It's really starting to affect my psyche.
 
girlwhowrites said:
For me, it was the Youtube algorithm that brought me to all these cancer channels. I was watching Krocks in the Kitchen, saw their cancer journey videos, and then my recommendations started to get filled with similar channels. I couldn't help but click on a few, and after watching one, it was easy to keep watching another.

I think I'll only keep watching the POG channel for a few weeks after Sarah passes just to see how the family is getting on, but after that I don't want to follow any more of these channels. It's really starting to affect my psyche.
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Same here. I think watching the Krocks cancer journey got me started with Joe Plater and then the others followed.
 
This channel is creeping me out a lot lately. I'm talking of the POG Family. Josh is constantly in front of the camera, her sister has also chimed in twice now. But what I find really troubling are the vids where he's filming Sarah. He says she wants to make an appearance, but I somehow doubt she is aware enough to truly consent to this. To me, it's grotesque. That short vid where she tried to say her signature words was just awful. And the vid where he was holding her up to "dance" was cringeworthy. IMO, these last few days of her life should not be captured on YT. My god, she's dying! Put the damn camera down!
 
Man, not even a negative comment in the YouTube comment section, clearly people are delighted, thirsty for more morbid sh**. I could hear crows in the background along with the wind chimes in the sister's video and they sounded appropriate. There's something creepy about the way the sister seems to wanna replace Sarah. She's like, hey, I get why Sarah and Josh are doing this, this is kinda cool, I might start doing it myself too! BTW Sarah is fine, I think she is happy, don't pay attention to the expression on her face, it's not real, she's actually smiling. With that said you know what, I've always wanted to say the be kind thing...
🙈🙉🤦🏼
 
I only found the pog family maybe a month ago in my suggested videos so I've come in right at the end. I have such mixed feelings on this...my mum died a few months ago and it wasn't a nice death, very medicalised in hospital. So seeing that death can be more peaceful is almost healing ME (if that makes sense). In that case I appreciate seeing the insights and I partly admire people who say they will film right to the end and then do. I was very like Josh and was I guess pragmatic in that I talked about my mum dying, I knew it was coming whereas my sister somehow convinced herself she wasn't going to and it was a massive shock. Talking like it was going to happen made it easier for me to deal with for sure so I can see why he talks like that.

BUT on the other hand - why should poor Sarah be paraded around like this to satisfy a bunch of internet strangers?! She may have wanted it at one time but I very seriously doubt she's cognizant enough to give informed consent. It feels so ghoulish!
 
Saydee said:
Does Sarah really look like she's been asking to make a video?
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Sarah doesn't even know where she is most of the time. She is cognitively impaired and should not be filmed. Maybe it's time that Josh started to MAKE GOOD CHOICES!!!
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I posted this on TT thread the day after this one was started as l hadn't realised one was created, it was in response to Josh filming Sarah having a seizure and then editing and uploading it. 15 days ago l was an asshole...... but l wasn't far off, l could see was going to happen!!!
BTW what's a Buff?
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Make sense of it! said:
Sarah doesn't even know where she is most of the time. She is cognitively impaired and should not be filmed. Maybe it's time that Josh started to MAKE GOOD CHOICES!!!
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I posted this on TT thread the day after this one was started as l hadn't realised one was created, it was in response to Josh filming Sarah having a seizure and then editing and uploading it. 15 days ago l was an asshole...... but l wasn't far off, l could see was going to happen!!!
BTW what's a Buff? View attachment 2318294 q
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Merch, neckwear/scarf thingy.
They had Sarah in bed with her pillow, merch hat on her head :( I suppose the next video will be of Sarah with cap and buff on :(
 
Saydee said:
Yeah I have seen Josh laughing and joking on other youtube channels.
Anyway...... wanna buy a buff?
Range of colours to suit.
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Do they have it in "We got this" blue 💙? Asking for a friend.
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Saydee said:
Yeah I have seen Josh laughing and joking on other youtube channels.
Anyway...... wanna buy a buff?
Range of colours to suit.
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Is it really bad that l.thought it was a cloth to "buff" the furniture or car like a chamois 🙃
 
I had to look "Buff" up on Google. Looks like it's a company that makes neck gaiters.

Anyway, I guess I'm cold but I've been pretty impervious to Josh and sis continuing to record Sarah and their observations. Though that last video of Josh's was weird to me in that he seemed to be saying that Sarah would want him and the kids to be having fun and doing enjoyable things NOW. Oh well, maybe he was just letting off steam/stress.

I think one reason it hasn't affected me is that I've followed several dying children on Instagram, and the parent, usually mom, is there videotaping the blood tests and port accesses, holding the child down, the child in pain or sleepless and crying, right up to the end! - and they often accompany it with appeals for the gofundme or Amazon wishlist. And we have a hospital in America that does similar videos to appeal for donations (St Jude's children's hospital in Memphis) and they did that before youtube. I guess I need to examine my conscience to see what's going on with me, being willing to watch.
 
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