Real Life Crime and Murder #13

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This is very hard to follow, as there are so many players, but it was an "honour" killing. It sounds like she had a nice relationship with her uncle Dawood though, which gladdens my heart a little.

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Uncle admits dumping niece's body and trying to burn her phone

An uncle accused of murdering his niece has admitted to dumping her body and trying to burn her phone.
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I will never forget the judge's powerful words, which still make me cry every time I read them, to the parents of Shafalia Ahmed. He summed it up brilliantly.

"You chose to bring up your family in Warrington but, although you lived in Warrington, your social and cultural attitudes were those of rural Pakistan and it was those which you imposed upon your children."

Shafilea was a determined, able and ambitious girl who wanted to live a life which was normal in the country and in the town in which you had chosen to live and bring up your children. However, you could not tolerate the life that Shafilea wanted to live. You wanted your family to live in Pakistan in Warrington. Although she went to local schools, you objected to her socialising with girls from what has been referred to as “the white community”. You objected to her wearing western clothes and you objected to her having contact with boys.

She was being squeezed between two cultures, the culture and way of life that she saw around her and wanted to embrace and the culture and way of life you wanted to impose upon her. A desire that she understood and appreciated the cultural heritage from which she came is perfectly understandable but an expectation that she live in a sealed cultural environment separate from the culture of the country in which she lived was unrealistic, destructive and cruel."

And it is that 'squeeze' that we see time and time again in these cases. And not to forgot all the "honour" violence that goes on that doesn't end up in a court.

There is a very large Asian population where I live in the East London and I do genuinely like and appreciate the multiculturalism here. But it is truly, truly abhorrent what some of these girls have to go through in the name of "religion".

 
Nosheen Akhtar/Sarah Hussain inquest halted. Coroner wants more evidence! Will resume on 3rd April.

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Woman who died from severe burns took overdose after divorce threat, inquest hears

A Bury woman who died from severe burns took an overdose after her husband “told her to kill herself”, an inquest has heard.
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Bury woman who died from horrific burns said 'I want to end this life', inquest heard

A Bury woman who died from horrific burns told her brother-in-law she “wanted to end this life” minutes before she caught fire, an inquest heard.
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Husband of Bury woman denies setting the fire that killed her, inquest hears

The husband of a Bury woman who died from horrific burns said ‘he loved her’ and did not start the fire that killed her, an inquest has heard.
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Inquest into death of woman who died after burns halted amid call for more footage

The coroner overseeing an inquest into the death of a Bury woman who died after suffering severe burns has halted proceedings and called for…
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Footage of her daughter’s murder went viral. Now Bianca Devins’ mother wants to change the internet — The Independent

Bianca Devins was kind, thoughtful, strong and just 17 years old. During her lifetime, incels harassed her online. Then, one day, a friend who had aligned himself with the incel community killed her. Holly Baxter speaks to Bianca’s mother Kimberly about how she channeled her grief into action
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This is an interesting article about an incel murder I hadnt heard of but also about the internets responsibility in promoting radical ideas and allowing images to be shared
 
wishiniwasskinny said:
apple.news

Footage of her daughter’s murder went viral. Now Bianca Devins’ mother wants to change the internet — The Independent

Bianca Devins was kind, thoughtful, strong and just 17 years old. During her lifetime, incels harassed her online. Then, one day, a friend who had aligned himself with the incel community killed her. Holly Baxter speaks to Bianca’s mother Kimberly about how she channeled her grief into action
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This is an interesting article about an incel murder I hadnt heard of but also about the internets responsibility in promoting radical ideas and allowing images to be shared
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There's a 48 Hours episode about this case. That season is being shown at the moment on CBS Reality so you may be able to download it on their catch up service if you're interested...? The episode is called The Online Life & Death of Bianca Devins.
 
Wackie Jeaver said:
Sentence was pathetic. That poor poor girl. And there were 5 other children - hope to god they are not with these scum
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I was quite confused at the fact that the judge told the court that he found it impossible to say that one parent was more to blame than the other and they were equally responsible but then he gave the dad 7 and a half years but but the mother only 6? Both very insulting sentences considering how much that girl suffered but why give one a longer sentence when they were both as bad as each other
 
Curtaintwitcher45 said:
I was quite confused at the fact that the judge told the court that he found it impossible to say that one parent was more to blame than the other and they were equally responsible but then he gave the dad 7 and a half years but but the mother only 6? Both very insulting sentences considering how much that girl suffered but why give one a longer sentence when they were both as bad as each other
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She pled guilty.

Judge's full sentencing remarks are available to read here, although I've not read them yet, but that will be why I'm sure:

R -v- Lloyd Jones & Titford - Courts and Tribunals Judiciary

Swansea Crown Court 1 March 2023 The King -v- Sarah Lloyd Jones The King -v- Alun Anthony Titford Sentencing Remarks of the Honourable Mr Justice Griffiths
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Curtaintwitcher45 said:
I was quite confused at the fact that the judge told the court that he found it impossible to say that one parent was more to blame than the other and they were equally responsible but then he gave the dad 7 and a half years but but the mother only 6? Both very insulting sentences considering how much that girl suffered but why give one a longer sentence when they were both as bad as each other
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I presume that might have been because mum pleaded guilty from the off so that wad taken into account in the mitigating factors for sentencing. Dad didn't and forced a costly, upsetting and unnecessary trial so he got a longer sentence.

I think they quite often lop some time off for early guilt plea sadly
 
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