Real Life Crime and Murder #13
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GlassOfBeans
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Plus poor Olivia’s family having to listen to a whole day of them talking about it? The more she loses the plot though the more they will try and make her out to be unstable I can just see it now!
Fingers crossed they have some more evidence
They have tracksuit bottoms that were found at his sister’s house with gun residue and his DNA on… in my opinion he’s guilty as sin.
Wishing the witness all the best for tomorrow
jessica justice
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Defence barrister just keeps bringing up that she lied and omitted things in her police interviews. At least she said something. Not like his client who after saying the police were fitting him up just gave no comment interviews. Surely if it wasn’t him he would be only too happy to answer questions. I can’t see how with the clothes they gave we itv the dna and gunshot residue along with the cctv of him the day before with him going by the house so many times. Then his actions afterwards that he can be found anything but guilty. A real man would be grieving about killing an innocent little girl but this low life scum was waving to his family on the first day of the trial. Hope Olivia’s family get justice
LaBlonde
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read this one yesterday on my local news and have thought about it ever since. i can’t imagine how frightened this poor woman must have been:
Barmouth visitor killed after mistaking man's home for hotel, court told
Margaret Barnes mistook a house for a hotel was attacked and was killed by the owner, a trial hears.
www.bbc.co.uk
LaBlonde
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That's one of the worst things I've read about (the lady in the B & B). Absolutely no need for the violence inflicted on her. As said, the terror she must have felt being woken up to that is really upsetting to think about
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i can’t believe he’s pleading not guilty on all charges - can’t imagine what his defence will be. i know anyone would be understandably shocked to find a complete stranger in their house but nothing warrants that level of reaction. i would also say that kind of thing has probably happened before, given the bnbs and residential houses in that street are identical builds. it’s awful.Deeznutslol
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WTF how can he plead not guilty? That should be a murder trial tbhread this one yesterday on my local news and have thought about it ever since. i can’t imagine how frightened this poor woman must have been:
Barmouth visitor killed after mistaking man's home for hotel, court told
Margaret Barnes mistook a house for a hotel was attacked and was killed by the owner, a trial hears.www.bbc.co.uk
It’s awful he’s a piece of tit, hope he gets locked up for life.
The poor witness barrister really trying hard to get her worked up today, she told him not to get hot headed with her !
i know
she was a sleeping elderly lady too, it wasn’t like she was a huge man just stood there who he thought might attack him, she posed no threat whatsoever
LloydsBoosters
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Eleanor Williams has been sentenced to 8 years.
news.sky.com
Eleanor Williams sentencing - live: 'I am never going to recover,' says victim as woman who told 'pack of lies' about being groomed and abused is sentenced
Eleanor Williams, 22, sentenced to eight and a half years in prison after being found to have falsely claimed she was abused by a grooming gang. Watch the sentencing on demand below.
GeminiMoon
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My mother in law is 70 and binge drinks, usually at home but when she goes out, she is just as reckless. I could imagine her getting into the scenario this poor woman experienced.
Wackie Jeaver
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Mohammed Ramzan (re Eleanor Williams) is a remarkably articulate and forgiving man... Sky been carrying an interview with him.
Eleanor Williams has been sentenced to 8 years.
Eleanor Williams sentencing - live: 'I am never going to recover,' says victim as woman who told 'pack of lies' about being groomed and abused is sentenced
Eleanor Williams, 22, sentenced to eight and a half years in prison after being found to have falsely claimed she was abused by a grooming gang. Watch the sentencing on demand below.
I believed her when it first came out….then I saw she’d been arrested and the injuries were self inflicted!! Who in their right mind hits themselves in the eye repeatedly with a hammer? Those poor men she accused.
Gossngiggles
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read this one yesterday on my local news and have thought about it ever since. i can’t imagine how frightened this poor woman must have been:
Barmouth visitor killed after mistaking man's home for hotel, court told
Margaret Barnes mistook a house for a hotel was attacked and was killed by the owner, a trial hears.www.bbc.co.uk
That poor woman must have been terrified. He sounds like a dangerous man, I hope he is put away for a longtime.
ordinaryjelly
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This is hideous. What an abhorrent man.read this one yesterday on my local news and have thought about it ever since. i can’t imagine how frightened this poor woman must have been:
Barmouth visitor killed after mistaking man's home for hotel, court told
Margaret Barnes mistook a house for a hotel was attacked and was killed by the owner, a trial hears.www.bbc.co.uk
So many questions though, how did she get into the house?
LaBlonde
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i imagine we’re going to hear more because that interested me too! the houses along the front there are pretty much identical and, if she had her case like the article says, can only assume that she didn’t spend much time in the actual bnb. coupled with being apparently quite drunk i guess she lost her bearings and maybe his front door was unlocked while he was in another room?
a friend of mine went into the hotel room above hers once (the keycard worked which is scary) and didn’t fully register until she’d been in the bathroom for a few minutes - and that was being sober (but very tired).
Wackie Jeaver
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I once walked into a hotel room to find lights on, tv on - and a man in his underpants on the bed!! He then said "my name is Quirk, who are you?" duck me I skedaddled out pdq and legged it back to reception!
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