Jack Monroe #7 The Judge can send us down to hell, but we won't eat that béchamel

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GrunkaLunka said:
Oh and to those of you starting to fancy Matt, I am here as an honorary doctor to diagnose you.

Knight in Shining Armour Syndrome

It's real! Matt is saving you from your cringe, and you therefore feel attracted to him. I started to get it when I was watching Jamie Oliver! 😂

Side note, I also get it with socialists 🌹 Can't resist a Labour leader when they release a manifesto 😂😂😂
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I'll have you know that my attraction to Matt is a lot more considered than that. He has *lovely* arms and hands, that slightly posh boy confidence, a cheeky smile and all the snark. <considers other half> Oh. I do have a type.

(Yeh, yeh, the Knight thing is nice too)
 
GrunkaLunka said:
Didn't attempt to watch, I can do without cringing so hard I turn inside out.
So thank you all for the running commentary, it was brilliant.

I've seen it mentioned a couple of times, and nodding along with you but what actually is this show? Is it supposed to be cooking on a budget? Or related to lockdown and which foods are hard to find right now? I think they need to have a clearer idea of what they're trying to achieve here.

Also, fancy food 🙄 Herbs and spices, seasoning and fresh ingredients aren't bleeping fancy. She needs to stop saying this. Poor people don't have to live off tins. If this was a food bank inspired show, I would think differently but it's not (is it?).
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It's definitely ignorant if you go to the butcher and ask for a cheap of the cheap cut of meat he will find you one, if you build up a relationship with your local butcher and you explain you are on hard times and need cheap cuts he will often direct you and give you tips on the best way of cooking. If you walk into the butcher and say I have sound to my name can I have some sort of meat he will do his best to give you something, even of it's a small portion not very good cut. They were selling bacon bits ( lardons for a pound before lockdown in my local butcher's and I bought some, made 3 pasta dinners and an omelette. When you buy fresh veg from markets you can often pick up a couple of carrots, a couple of jacket potatoes and other random veg or fruit a pound or just over. If your think about it you can divide and make dishes using what you have using little ingredients and it will be tasty and somewhat nutritious.
 
Flumps said:
I'll have you know that my attraction to Matt is a lot more considered than that. He has *lovely* arms and hands, that slightly posh boy confidence, a cheeky smile and all the snark. <considers other half> Oh. I do have a type.

(Yeh, yeh, the Knight thing is nice too)
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I think it's the rolled up sleeves that do it for me...


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Just watching the show, a few things:

I got my first DK bingo with the tinned fish 🥳 what do I win?

She doesn't know how to make sourdough, you only put it in the fridge when you don't intend to use it for a while, it slows the fermentation right down.

The oats... WTF? 🤷

I am also starting to see the appeal of Matt 😳. This must be the Jack effect as I watch Saturday Kitchen all the time without coming over all unnecessary 😳
 
I couldn't be arsed watching today as I'm sick of her, but I was making carrot cake oats circa my 2013 orthorexic phase (with fresh carrots...). It doesn't necessarily bother me that her recipes are derivative - my favourite food blogs (Smitten Kitchen and Recipe Tin Eats, if anyone's interested!) frequently talk about where they've borrowed ideas from and maybe developed them - but her claims that she invented stuff which has clearly been knocking around online for the best part of a decade is just so irritating.

A couple of people have really hit the nail on the head with their fury about her poorly-formed taxonomy of what is "posh" or "fancy". As she has experienced success she seems to have totally forgotten that making food is a joyful process and we can live out aspirations through it. For example, the other night I was facetiming my sister as we were both cooking dinner. We were brought up v poor on lots of beige food, but we were both making heavily spiced dishes with unusual salads and homemade breads. Although we're both fine now we're still not well off and we were talking about how we often get immersed in the cuisines of places we want to go to as a proxy for actually going.

Jack's joyless slop, on the other hand, is the modern day equivalent of Dickensian gruel: god forbid we should incorporate flavour into our lives and imagine better times.
 
heretoreaditall2019 said:
You know how prisoners make food in their kettles, like from basics to some quite innovative dishes tbh using a few different bits, I feel like some of these insane recipe substitutions are verging on that level of innovation?

Very useful for when we’re all occupying the same women’s wing tbh x
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I'm sure she's made something in the kettle before, maybe noodles?
 
Exactly this!
She doesn’t seem to know. We’re a single parent family on a low budget and I know how to cook normal family meals at a low cost, there’s plenty of information out there. Just because we’re ‘poor’ doesn’t equal thick and unable to cook 😂. This is just absolute crap that no one will eat!

tippingpoint said:
What is her whole “thing”? Is it cooking meals on a super low budget? I know it used to be but right now people are going down the whatever you have in the cupboards route (despite shops being basically back to normal)

The stuff she cooks is abysmal. Absolutely abysmal. It doesn’t even strike me as value family meals. The way she throws stuff together is like she’s living in Chernobyl trying to make something out of a bunch of old cans she’s found.
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HarderFaster said:
A couple of people have really hit the nail on the head with their fury about her poorly-formed taxonomy of what is "posh" or "fancy". As she has experienced success she seems to have totally forgotten that making food is a joyful process and we can live out aspirations through it. For example, the other night I was facetiming my sister as we were both cooking dinner. We were brought up v poor on lots of beige food, but we were both making heavily spiced dishes with unusual salads and homemade breads. Although we're both fine now we're still not well off and we were talking about how we often get immersed in the cuisines of places we want to go to as a proxy for actually going.
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This is a super good point and absolutely one of the reasons I love food. I grew up v comfortable middle class, but I am a wastrel and can't afford FANCY holidays so I use food as a substitute for travel. Right now, that seems to be a good reason for everyone else as well, as no one can go anywhere.
 
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