Jack Monroe #563 Danniella Guestbrook

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pumbilical cord said:
And less thoroughly than her Patrons.
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Well that was a fun mithering today. We saw cosplaying Jack (because when do we not ever see that tbf), fire phone Jack, manky peas Jack, random oils Jack, chess Jack bae and arrived at rinsing gussets and beans. Pretty sure I missed a few Jacks - leather and a lid Jack didn’t appear today did she??

Anyway. All in a day’s work for the Canal 👌
 
Valiofthedolls said:
Rinses?! View attachment 2720105 q
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"I'm sure someone would have told me by now if I didn't smell great"

But, guest, that's the textbook example of an issue that people avoid raising in conversation at all costs. Sure, you can do it as a parent. Or maybe as a long-term partner. But other than that, there's a real taboo around it - people will try to find literally any other excuse, no matter how implausible, to avoid sitting downwind of you. And they'll never ever tell you the real reason why.

It's something that I had to deal with it at work in my very first week of managing other people . Looking back on it now, I strongly suspect that the only reason why I was made a manager of my little teamlet was that my boss didn't want to deal with it herself - but I was young and keen and naive, so just went ahead and did it, thinking it was an opportunity to prove myself. And it turned to be probably the most awkward conversation I've had in my life.

I was fairly straightforward about it - "would you mind using deodorant before coming in to work?" - but the guy in question was really surprised. And he stank, really really stank. People would walk to another floor to use the toilets or the kitchen if he'd been in them within the last hour, they'd avoid inviting him to meetings so they wouldn't risk being in an enclosed room with him, and the office had been re-arranged to effectively give him his own cubicle down a dead-end corridor next to the printers and spare computer bits. Needless to say, that office went almost entirely paperless, and no-one ever needed a replacement mouse.

He was 27 years old and no-one had ever told him. No-one.

I got away with it - he wasn't upset, just surprised. I moved to a new job 6 months later - but I just looked him up, and it seems he's still with the current incarnation of that original company, almost 20 years on. But thinking about it now, I can see just how fraught with danger it was - a constructive dismissal lawsuit waiting to happen. I should have refused and demanded that HR deal with it.

And here's the thing: Jack is self employed, she doesn't have an HR team. As a freelancer, her clients would be free to avoid the problem by just not giving her any more work.

Who would dare tell her?
 
Valiofthedolls said:
Speaking of…View attachment 2720086 qVegan guest’s had those buttersoft pleather pleggings/“tight leather pants” she “amassed” and wore for the entirety of 2022 for years?!🤢🤢🤢 View attachment 2720080 q🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢View attachment 2720069 qView attachment 2720071 qalso “my sexy as hell biker jacket” that I bought in 2015 but that my abusive famous ex traumatized me about sooooo much I still wasn’t over it in 2020.
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I just watched a video about how designer brands target poorer people rather than the rich - a genuinely rich person would never wear that Burberry tit but idiots like jack think it makes them look good. Classic coat and bag my arse. They're manufactured status symbols. I would argue that those scarves she loves make her look much less classy than something that actually suited her. (Never mind the environmental crimes these companies commit)

The added layer of being a poverty campaigner decked out in this trashy tit - I can't actually process the cognitive dissonance. There's no upside! She spends more money with less ethical brands in order to look worse. I know she's not exactly alone in this but being who she is makes it very pointed. Poorer people are disproportionately affected by climate change etc. it's like her emphasis on cheap meat. It's enraging. Oh my god
 
Lucky Escape said:
"I'm sure someone would have told me by now if I didn't smell great"

But, guest, that's the textbook example of an issue that people avoid raising in conversation at all costs. Sure, you can do it as a parent. Or maybe as a long-term partner. But other than that, there's a real taboo around it - people will try to find literally any other excuse, no matter how implausible, to avoid sitting downwind of you. And they'll never ever tell you the real reason why.

It's something that I had to deal with it at work in my very first week of managing other people . Looking back on it now, I strongly suspect that the only reason why I was made a manager of my little teamlet was that my boss didn't want to deal with it herself - but I was young and keen and naive, so just went ahead and did it, thinking it was an opportunity to prove myself. And it turned to be probably the most awkward conversation I've had in my life.

I was fairly straightforward about it - "would you mind using deodorant before coming in to work?" - but the guy in question was really surprised. And he stank, really really stank. People would walk to another floor to use the toilets or the kitchen if he'd been in them within the last hour, they'd avoid inviting him to meetings so they wouldn't risk being in an enclosed room with him, and the office had been re-arranged to effectively give him his own cubicle down a dead-end corridor next to the printers and spare computer bits. Needless to say, that office went almost entirely paperless, and no-one ever needed a replacement mouse.

He was 27 years old and no-one had ever told him. No-one.

I got away with it - he wasn't upset, just surprised. I moved to a new job 6 months later - but I just looked him up, and it seems he's still with the current incarnation of that original company, almost 20 years on. But thinking about it now, I can see just how fraught with danger it was - a constructive dismissal lawsuit waiting to happen. I should have refused and demanded that HR deal with it.

And here's the thing: Jack is self employed, she doesn't have an HR team. As a freelancer, her clients would be free to avoid the problem by just not giving her any more work.

Who would dare tell her?
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I actually reckon Big Choco would take great joy in telling her. And he’d want to because his daughter walking around smelly would impact on his image, he wouldn’t want to be described as “Dave, you know Dave, the one with the daughter who stinks!”

Mama E too probably but she’d do it in a more gentle way.

She’ll have done it once in a pinch, likely after sitting on her arse all day so barely sweating/anything else in them, and it’s made it to a top Jack tip.
 
CabalofBolorneaise said:
I actually reckon Big Choco would take great joy in telling her. And he’d want to because his daughter walking around smelly would impact on his image, he wouldn’t want to be described as “Dave, you know Dave, the one with the daughter who stinks!”

Mama E too probably but she’d do it in a more gentle way.

She’ll have done it once in a pinch, likely after sitting on her arse all day so barely sweating/anything else in them, and it’s made it to a top Jack tip.
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True. And her fancy grammar school would have told her - there'd have been a form tutor or "character" teacher who would have prided themselves on doing that sort of thing.

I do sometimes wonder if Jack deliberately implies such horrible things about herself in order to get people talking about it, so that she can then point at them and scream about trolls.

But as @MurielSnark pointed out upthread, Jack probably isn't capable of playing 3d chess.
 
Lucky Escape said:
True. And her fancy grammar school would have told her - there'd have been a form tutor or "character" teacher who would have prided themselves on doing that sort of thing.

I do sometimes wonder if Jack deliberately implies such horrible things about herself in order to get people talking about it, so that she can then point at them and scream about trolls.

But as @MurielSnark pointed out upthread, Jack probably isn't capable of playing 3d chess.
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I think she definitely does exactly that. She did the same thing when she was “moving” and she vaguely described a flat she’d seen the listing for on here. Naturally the response was for tattlers to say “it’s this one”. I fully believe she’d made it up and it was a trap in order to try to get proof she was being doxxed - we just realised what she was doing before she got the screenshots.

I’m also sure she’s used Tattle to find examples of people being abusive on the hellsite - she claims they’ve said X heinous thing, tattlers refute it with proof they only said Y then suddenly she’s mentioning things about Y.

She’s not always very good at it, but she does play 3d chess with varying levels of competency, 100%.
 
CabalofBolorneaise said:
I think she definitely does exactly that. She did the same thing when she was “moving” and she vaguely described a flat she’d seen the listing for on here. Naturally the response was for tattlers to say “it’s this one”. I fully believe she’d made it up and it was a trap in order to try to get proof she was being doxxed - we just realised what she was doing before she got the screenshots.

I’m also sure she’s used Tattle to find examples of people being abusive on the hellsite - she claims they’ve said X heinous thing, tattlers refute it with proof they only said Y then suddenly she’s mentioning things about Y.

She’s not always very good at it, but she does play 3d chess with varying levels of competency, 100%.
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I do see what you mean, but I think that's largely opportunistic behaviour on her part rather than the result of any great plan.

Not because she's unintelligent, but because she has never shown herself to have the level of stamina that would be required, or the ability to follow through.

I think she's sneaky and self-serving, and is willing to debase herself in the pursuit of short-term gratification. But I don't think she's any sort of criminal mastermind.
 
 
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