Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #157 Yo's showing class while Alice is showing her erse.

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I only am really sceptical about the joint title, but I have no idea about this stuff and in his reply Ioan was opposing other things, but not this.

Also for all points: if Alice fucks around he can always ask the court to intervene (that's stipulated too), he just needs to have the balls for it

It's definitely a win, as the house gets sold to pretty much the conditions he wanted too, and I think Alice's brothers very coping reaction (see above) shows this too.
My thoughts keep drifting to 'capital gains tax' on property sold. Two names on the title means that both parties would be taxed on their share of the proceeds (beyond their personal investment/contribution)??
Anyone know if this to be true or how it might work in this instance? in other words - does the joint title reduce IG's tax on the property?
 
Nor do I. A lot of people here think this was a win for Ioan. I disagree.

I looked back and re-read the stipulation mAlice backed out of at the last minute back in May 2022 that had been negotiated when Leon was still on board. When you look closely and compare, several things stand out:

- Point 2 of that stipulation refers to one appointed broker, now suddenly there are two. Lots of potential to stall things while two brokers haggle about the price, advertising, showings, etc. And is it a sure thing that the commission won't be higher because they presumably have to split it?

- Point 3 addresses a 30 day lease back, now suddenly it's "at least" 30 days. She will interpret the "at least 30 days" as "indefinitely." I can hear the whine fest already about not being able to find something suitable on such short notice when she's oh-so-broke and the baybeez have nothing to eat, not being able to move with the baybeez during the school year when they are already so traumatized about losing their childhood home, etc., etc., etc. Or does anyone really believe mAlice is out apartment-hunting today?! What buyer is going to offer a good price knowing the hassles they're going to have getting this squatter off the property?

- Point 5 states "Respondent shall maintain the La Jolla Residence in a clean and showable condition." We all have our suspicions about the state of that house now, but no such mention in the new document. Or do we believe mAlice is doing the spring cleaning of the century as we speak? There are also other references in the original stipulation to home improvements, which makes me wonder if Ioan was planning on sprucing the place up a bit before putting it on the market, which mAlice would have objected to because she wants the place rundown so it won't sell.

- No mention about putting mAlice on the title in the May 2022 stipulation. That bit made me laugh out loud when I read her preposterous "response" last week. I asked myself why on God's green earth would that be an issue 17 years after the house was purchased and 15 years after the wedding. But now, there it is. Why add notarial costs, etc., now in the middle of a horrendous divorce on a property that is being sold to avoid foreclosure? Huh?! Anyone know what's going on with this? Could this even be opening a back door to getting the pre-nup thrown out?

I really have been asking myself since the news broke yesterday why Ioan even filed a response to her response last Friday, then signed off on this on Tuesday. We were all cheering, thinking he and Anne finally had the beast exactly where they wanted her and then they agree to this watered-down version of a stipulation that actually had some teeth back in May. I suspect he only filed the response on Friday to get on the record about some of the lies she told there in her ramblings (which had nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely sale of the house) and to reemphasize how mAlice is wrecking his career (there were some more examples of threatening messages to him about destroying him in the attachments on Friday). This makes me think she has been contacting potential employers again.

Which brings me back to the DVRO and the judge rejecting Ioan's request to forbid her from contacting his employers, past, present or potential. I still can't believe that was dismissed, really thought that would be a no-brainer, given all the evidence Ioan had presented in his DVRO petition with threats and references to her contacting former managers, etc. My hope is that Ioan and his team stand fast about the DVRO breaches and about custody. It's long overdue that they go for the jugular, this stipulation about the house was not it.

Anyway, long rant, maybe I'm nitpicking about some of this, but somehow I have a feeling mAlice got a bunch of concessions again that she will not use to improve her and the children's lot, but will use against Ioan again. I think the house will ultimately go into foreclosure.
I suspect his lawyers think it will go to foreclosure and they are still laying a paper trail.
 
I also wanted to mention that Mr Curious and I have only recently finished season 2 of the white lotus. It only occurred to me today that the American grandson/son in it is the spitting image of Ioan. Dimples and all. They would make a perfect father/son duo in any upcoming production. You heard it here first 😂

I have not seen The White Lotus yet.

I realised though that Ioan has not been in any Marple and/or Poirot episodes, which used to be like a rite of passage for most talented British actors/actresses. (Neither has Matthew Rhys).
Marple and Poirot, especially the Poirot series with Suchet are a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine. It does not matter I have seen all the episodes. When I am very tired, so I cannot take in any new information and yet am not sleepy enough, it is just the perfect thing. I like the pace and style, production values, the incredible art deco buildings and interiors, and each episode has talented actors/actresses -- familiar faces I have seen in many other films or series over the decades.
 
Bloody bleeping cow. She’s determined to find any way she can to circumvent the DVRO, isn’t she? Despite IG’s latest filing insisting that badmouthing the other parent online must be strictly verboten (as if the DVRO weren’t enough)? For any newcomers (I’ve been trying to encourage some truly delightful Tattlers to come over to this thread): Malice is the narcissist. Malice is the abuser. Malice is only nice if people blow smoke up her enormous fundament. Malice is the one who has ensured IG is separated from his children’s lives and love. To reiterate: bloody bleeping cow.

Kitten has grown enormously in three months. He’s still as dedicated to behaving like a wrecking-ball/Genghis Khan/Atilla the Hun, but I adore him. ❤

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I’d be more worried about norovirus, frankly. People are *dirty*. A large percentage don’t wash their hands after using the lavatory. Hurling your guts out multiple times a day for up to a week while stuck in a small cabin sounds like *my* idea of hell - but then, I’m an emetophobe… it could, on the other hand, be incredibly romantic.
”I’m the King of the Castle” Kitten is one very handsome boy 💖
 
On a related note: Should the lawyers yet again negotiate a global settlement Loopy and Tone are yet again acting against her interest by implying all sorts of big reveals etc. But Alice isnt sorrounded by the sharpest tools, thats why she is really the smartest person in (her) room.

I btw hope Ioan's team is not considering switching out the DVRO for a NDA for the sake of a quick settlement. I doubt they are this stupid though, and getting Alice in front of the DA as well as the strict no communication for all settlements implies that they take it serious.

I suspect his lawyers think it will go to foreclosure and they are still laying a paper trail.
then he wouldnt have bothered to pay for it by borrowing money
 
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It looks like Alice is letting Tone (& Loopy) loose again (also I wonder if Tone doesnt know that his sister has a DA hearing tommorrow lol)
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I like how brilliant that last tweet reads out of context
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2.) commission is tied to the sale price, so no it wont be higher

3.) as mentioned at that point it's no longer Ioan's issue because the house is already sold, so if Alice decides to stay longer there she isnt screwing Ioan but herself

5.) It's interesting because all (even Alice's) suggestions had a point where they talked about how repairs are handled, they cut this out too. It seems like they generally cut the final agreement short (I mean Ioan's request for order to the court was like only two lines in the first place)

I only am really sceptical about the joint title, but I have no idea about this stuff and in his reply Ioan was opposing other things, but not this.

Also for all points: if Alice fucks around he can always ask the court to intervene (that's stipulated too), he just needs to have the balls for it

It's definitely a win, as the house gets sold to pretty much the conditions he wanted too, and I think Alice's brothers very coping reaction (see above) shows this too.
I thought they had very little equity in that house?
I wonder if it's not a back door/fall back to him just cutting his losses and letting her have the house AND the costs AND the responsibilities all to herself? Once it's in joint names, it will be easier for him to cut her loose if she continues to play hard ball. Her name is on the mortgage AND will be on the title, so lets see how she copes with the bank foreclosing on her. He could probably borrow to pay out his half of the mortgage, and then just leave Alice to deal with everything.
 
I have not seen The White Lotus yet.

I realised though that Ioan has not been in any Marple and/or Poirot episodes, which used to be like a rite of passage for most talented British actors/actresses. (Neither has Matthew Rhys).
Marple and Poirot, especially the Poirot series with Suchet are a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine. It does not matter I have seen all the episodes. When I am very tired, so I cannot take in any new information and yet am not sleepy enough, it is just the perfect thing. I like the pace and style, production values, the incredible art deco buildings and interiors, and each episode has talented actors/actresses -- familiar faces I have seen in many other films or series over the decades.
Same here! I love Poirot!
 
The deeper she is steeped in tit the higher the level of bullshit bravado from Alice, Tone and Lupanus

She is never going to concede she has made a complete mess of her divorce and life. She will double down and recycle her veiled threats and innuendos.

She knows deep down Ioan has beaten her at every turn and at every level. He still has his looks, his talent and his charm. He will come out ahead on money and can earn more. He has a loving partner and family (a real family not a sad sock).

Alice has lost her looks, is unemployed with addiction problems and an appalling reputation. She will leave her marriage with a modest sum and not a lot of maintenance. She has been completely outplayed in the game of divorce.

Coming back probably means she plans on a trip to the UK and thinks she can breach the dvro from afar and carry on her abuse.
 
The responses to Doodles (×who he./she has blocked, so can't see the replies) , now makes me even more interested in tomorrow's outcome. Is she really thinking nothing is going to happen? Plus she is coming back which sort of implies she is moving back to the UK.
oh somebody asked this, no it doesnt mean that
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Though could be her wet dream of going to the UK on a trip and breeching the RO from there (which wont work), I mean the "she is/will be back" is clearly about her ability to publicly abuse Ioan (and Loopy was stupid enough to confirm it), it's always about that

What he wants and what eventualities his lawyers are planning for may be 2 very different things.
pretty sure the lawyers told him to borrow money
 
Although Ioan (or rather Bianca) is paying 3.4k a month for a 'box' that AE looks down on in WeHo.

Who would rent to her? No job and a criminal record when she gets fined for the DVRO breaches. Yes she will have a lump sum from the sale of the property but that doesn't last forever. She won't work and I don't know how much child and spousal support (if any) she is entitled to from an unemployed father who has a DVRO against her. Plus the kids won't be kids forever.

She would be better to buy something modest with the lump sum so that means no more WeHo. I still stand by my prediction that she will eventually be in a council flat in Bristol.
She won’t have enough points to get a Council/Housing Association flat I imagine. Many more deserving cases than the Abuser. I see a cardboard box and a shopping trolley in her future unless she changes her attitude and behaviour (unlikely imo)
 
oh somebody asked this, no it doesnt mean that
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Though could be her wet dream of going to the UK on a trip and breeching the RO from there (which wont work), I mean the "she is/will be back" is clearly about her ability to publicly abuse Ioan (and Loopy was stupid enough to confirm it), it's always about that


pretty sure the lawyers told him to borrow money
Any chance tomorrow’s thing has been withdrawn somehow? Could Ioan withdraw it? I don’t know how these things work.
 
And we mustn’t forget the variety of mystery diseases that she would not want to inadvertently pass on to the recipient of her tainted blood.
Very good point, not to mention all the alcohol and drugs in her bloodstream!

This is bad but I don't know my blood type (really bad i know!) Only that it's one of the rare ones (I actually am having some blood work this week, so I should ask). I registered a few months ago to give blood, as they were advertising for it a lot, a while back. I thought they'd turn me down as I have Colitis, but they didn't; they turned me down as I'd had a tattoo within 6 months!
I should register, I would thank mAlice for the reminder, but I'd rather sleep in horseshit!
 
oh somebody asked this, no it doesnt mean that
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Though could be her wet dream of going to the UK on a trip and breeching the RO from there (which wont work), I mean the "she is/will be back" is clearly about her ability to publicly abuse Ioan (and Loopy was stupid enough to confirm it), it's always about that


pretty sure the lawyers told him to borrow money
Is Alice delusional enough to think tomorrow's hearing outcome will somehow remove the DVRO and nothing happens to her??? So she can "come back" to full on Ioan and Bianca bashing???

I would bet any money her attorney is asking to remove the DVRO and therefore she is at fault for nothing. 🤦🏻‍♀️ And this is what she's spewing to Tiny.
 
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