Huw Edwards #11 BBC Presenter Scandal

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LennyBriscoe said:
I know first hand that depression takes many forms. I’ve suffered from it myself for years and I would put myself in the “severe depression” category as it regularly impacts on my day to day life. I don’t dispute HE has had or does have depression.

What I’ve never done is committed a crime (nor has Huw) or behaved inappropriately to anyone let alone someone much younger than me. I’ve also not behaved inappropriately to any of my colleagues. I haven’t cheated on or carried out behaviour that would have a negative impact on my husband and child. It’s not an excuse and it’s so insulting to people with mental health illnesses when people use it as an excuse.

What I don’t have is the resources to book myself into a private clinic at the drop of a hat. What I do have is a Doctor who cuts me off when we hit the 20 minute mark on a telephone call every 6 weeks even if I’m sobbing and/or sharing a real feeling that everyone would be better off without me. This is obviously not HE’s fault.

I’ve just watched a telling discussion on GMB where Dr Hilary Jones fell over himself to tell us HE has had a 20-year battle with severe depression and that said depression may have caused him to act in the way he did. He said this issue on top of long-standing depression would have an impact on him and that’s why he’s been hospitalised. (I’m paraphrasing, I can’t remember exactly what he said).

Some other good points on GMB were made - the fact the BBC chose to make this story their headline news at a time when the G7 is sitting, there’s a war in Europe, cost of living crisis, NHS crisis etc is odd and Kate Garraway said it’s in her contract not to bring her employer’s name into disrepute so HE might have the same.

I’m not convinced HE will ever speak about it. At the moment it seems to him that he’s been caught acting inappropriately but it’s his wife and kids left in the firing line.
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And if the BBC hadn't covered the story that was dominating the headlines for the best part of a week, what would they have had to say about that?
 
moldwarp said:
He wanted to be in Broadmoor because, as he said to his cell mate and to a flunkey whilst on remand, he knew the conditions would be better. And they were. Rather than 23 hour a day lock up, he had full run of the garden (he became a good gardener before he became morbidly obese) and ran the hospital’s weekly film nights. He also had at least 4 (that are documented) visits from his mate Jimmy Savile.

Savile’s involvement with Sutcliffe May well predate his cushy stint in Broadmoor. Let’s not forget that Surcliffe’s only Leeds victim was found half in and half out of Savile’s back garden. Savile was very keen to talk to the press about it. Again, all a matter of public record.

Apols for the tangent but my very first boss worked on the Savile story and I’ve done quite a bit on it as well. It is absolutely a story of institutional misogyny, racism, complacency and mental health fakery, all of which allowed a sadomasochistic pervert to run riot and stymie the lives of Leeds and Yorkshire women for years.
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That's all well and good, but it doesn't detract from my original point that if you are sent to a secure hospital you go there until the doctors say otherwise, and only then do you start your sentence in jail. Sutcliffe is an example of that, regardless of the exact reasons it happened like that.
 
The guy may have been 17 (now 20) but did Huw know of his drug addictions? £35K is so much money over 3 years! Almost a grand a month for sexual content.

If he did know of the guy’s drug problem that’s very low. Enabling this guy whilst having his pleasure with the sexual content he bought.

The MH card with a message delivered by the loyal wife is low too. Did she know about his gay / bi side and tolerate it like PS’s Missus probably did?

I pity the parents of this guy and commend them. I hope their son can recover from this ordeal and get on a healthier life path.

Huw will rear his head at some point bht his career is fortunately over. What about his marriage? His wife would be a fool to stand by him long term.
 
L3moning said:
That's all well and good, but it doesn't detract from my original point that if you are sent to a secure hospital you go there until the doctors say otherwise, and only then do you start your sentence in jail. Sutcliffe is an example of that, regardless of the exact reasons it happened like that.
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We're coming at this from two different angles: you picked Sutcliffe as an example of 'the system' ('the process' as you put it) working well. I on the other hand think it's a good example of how the system is rotten to the core and plagued by complacency and lazy thinking.

As I said this morning, opinions on Huw reflect people's opinions on all sorts of things and it appears that you have faith in the Establishment, which is great. I don't, but I don't think we're gonna agree, so I'll not derail the thread anymore on this subject.
 
InTheDollsHouse said:
Saying the same thing over and over and over and filling up the thread over and over and over does not change how other people will think or respond to you.
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Please don’t take this the wrong way but you could just pop her on ignore and then you wouldn’t see it. I honestly don’t think she’s filling up the thread atm we are all guilty of that.
 
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Jwren said:
🤔 I wonder how many times that’s been said over the years, especially about those untouchable in privileged, powerful positions and it turns out it was anything but a waste of police time.
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Want to know something really scary? The police don’t routinely search computers / phones etc of those who have arrested of SA of children.
No evidence to do that. So they can’t invade that persons privacy.
So I can well believe given the ages involved in this case , they did very little.
 
theleagueofgentlemen said:
The problem with the initial story is that we genuinely don't know what happened. We know the mums story, and the child has rubbished that. I strongly suspect the truth is in the middle somewhere. But I will reiterate that I feel desperately sorry for the son.
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I don't know what to feel about the son, or indeed the family, as we don't have all the facts, nor do we know anything about their characters.

They could all be "normal" people, but the son finds himself turning to drugs. As a lot of teenagers plough through the internet and want to try out new things, he became embroiled in a seedy life. Mum found out and desperately tried her best to help her son with her actions.

There again, they could be low life. Did mum want to bring down HE. If so she succeeded. We don't know do we?

As the police have left loop holes, we may never know the whole truth.
 
nodea said:
Want to know something really scary? The police don’t routinely search computers / phones etc of those who have arrested of SA of children.
No evidence to do that. So they can’t invade that persons privacy.
So I can well believe given the ages involved in this case , they did very little.
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Without a search warrant the Police have no power, and they aren’t the ones granting that. All they can do is request one and hope the information they have given is enough grounds for one to be granted. I would imagine it frustrates the actual officers as much, if not more, than anyone else.
 
I am finding it all very tiresome and revolting.

Philip Schofield a few weeks ago. His abuse of power and desire for very young men whilst married. Then his apparent 'mental health issues' and everyone should lay off him in case 'he did something stupid'

Fast forward a few weeks. Huw Edwards revealed as having a desire for very young men. Secretively messaging and carrying on whilst married. Then when it is all revealed in the media he is suddenly rushed to hospital with 'mental health issues'.

Same old same old. They can duck off. These men are happy to play the power card and lie to their wives, children, friends and colleagues as long as they are getting what they want and no one questions them. I don't want to hear about the state of their mental health the moment they are found to be dodgy, seedy and predatory. I will save my sympathy for those who actually require it.

What the duck is wrong with these men?
 
MickeyMouseClubhouse said:
The only way I can think he found people on SM that worked at the BBC, but he’d never met, is that either

He searched an internal directory for names in the News Department, then looked them up on Instagram

or

Searched LinkedIn and messaged them on there!

If did that at my job I’d be out on my ear!
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I was just about to say could it have been young members of staff that worked with him but you’re right that wouldn’t automatically give him access to their mobile numbers. Also bang out of order if he asked them directly because they worked for/with him and he abused his power that way.
 
Boring Monday said:
And if the BBC hadn't covered the story that was dominating the headlines for the best part of a week, what would they have had to say about that?
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That’s it isn’t it, people were watching the news waiting to see what they said about it, if anything at all!

They wouldn’t win either way - they’re being criticised for it being their main story but they would have 100% been accused of playing it down if they’d only mentioned it later on in the bulletin.
 
barabra cundy said:
i dont have faith in police , they didnt investigate at all .
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There are many reasons for not having faith in the police but when you bring logic into it, it would be unthinkable that two separate forces would gloss over something like this when it's so high profile. Also, police incompetence/corruption doesn't explain why The Sun seemingly had no evidence of criminality either.
 
Sniffing Eggs said:
Serious note

However, I ask anyone who is defending HE to ask themselves would they defend him if he was a random 60 year old bloke in a 2 bed bungalow?
How would you be feeling if it was your child?
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You’re naive to think this isn’t happening already, thousands if not millions are being made by 18+ year olds selling photos, content and access to themselves.
I’ve said before I know someone who does it, their clients are high profile MPs, celebs and your 60 year old in a bungalow.
does it make it right? Are a lot of these vulnerable? Or are they adults just making a living?
whilst I’m not defending huw, he was a married man with a squeaky clean image. It’s so common I’m amazed the tax man isn’t cracking down on it.


the reytons monthly subscription is a great song to listen to on it.
 
kev1974 said:
Nasty BBC, piling more and more work onto a guy who they're now saying had mental health problems all along.

It doesn't say much for their duty of care to their staff or their employee health monitoring.
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I know, I know. I struggle with mental health issues too. When work gets overwhelming, I also solicit sexual images from people much younger than me and send inappropriate messages to junior colleagues. It's the only way to cope. #relatable
 
WordsFromReuben said:
I’ve noticed there is a lot of sympathy in the reporting of the story on Huw today but I can’t help but think, what is the difference between this story and the story of Philip Scofield? He doesn’t seem to have the same sympathy maybe because a lot of his peers dislike him?
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This!! I don’t see too much difference in the two men yet people are quick to sympathise with Huw now, but still on a witch hunt for Philth 🤷🏻‍♀️ interesting that both parties have mentioned MH and interesting both of their main victims haven’t dobbed them in 💰
 
AlexTwist said:
There are many reasons for not having faith in the police but when you bring logic into it, it would be unthinkable that two separate forces would gloss over something like this when it's so high profile. Also, police incompetence/corruption doesn't explain why The Sun seemingly had no evidence of criminality either.
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And why the supposed “victim” contacted the Sun twice, once over messaging/email and once via lawyers to say that nothing criminal happened.
 
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