Harry and Meghan #70 Two weddings, lots of lies, someone's telling porky pies

How long do you think Harry and Meghan will last?

  • 3 years and they'll breakup in 2021

    Votes: 156 14.2%
  • 4-5 years

    Votes: 530 48.2%
  • 6-7 years

    Votes: 171 15.5%
  • 8-9 years

    Votes: 41 3.7%
  • Until death does part

    Votes: 202 18.4%

  • Total voters
    1,100
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Yes and no.

Meghan really wants to be the head of the commonwealth and if you saw in the interview

Meghan had commonwealth flowers on her veil for her wedding

Harry says oh Meghan is the best thing ever that’s happened to the commonwealth.

Meghan mentioned she wanted to move to a commonwealth country and continue to her work from there.

They want countries to leave the commonwealth and unravel 70 years of what the queens done for the commonwealth just because Meghan didn’t get her way.

I Think the queen will release a statement , she wouldn’t want countries leaving the commonwealth after listening to perpetuated falsehoods about them.

She will want to protect what she worked 70 years to achieve.
Agree, Meghan sees herself as head of the Commonwealth. Astounding. People used to have to go to battle for rights to leadership, now you just need to go on Oprah and loosely apply the truth. Well, just no.

Also people forget commonwealth is a voluntary alliance - not an empire. Queen is the head and couldn't have been nicer or more welcoming according to ginge and whinge. Many of these reactions are just not logical.
 
I'm getting so irked by America's response to this.

They know nothing about how the UK works, how our monarchy and government and religions work, yet they are trying to call the shots. Fucking unbelievable. Imagine their reaction if it were the other way around.
That’s what Americans do. Jumped up, insular, ignorant. I am generalising of course, talking about the average middle American on Twitter. They haven’t got a clue. All their ‘greatest nation in the world’ and ‘the worlds only superpower’ rhetoric :sick:
 
Best suggestion I’ve heard yet is that Andrew should take one for the team and own up to the “racist” comment on the basis that he’s got nothing to lose.

Post-divorce Fergie was one of Oprah's past interviewees, way back in 1996.

I think that is the reason they didn't aim any vitriol at her or by association Andrew, now she's basicallyback with him. Not out of any loyalty, but because Oprah doesn't want her business spoiled by potential interviewees worrying she'll turn on them later. Showbiz and media, it's all about superficial image and not biting the hand that feeds.
 
Also was very boldly stated they where going to talk to Meghan about their philanthropy. Please, it was a bitch fest. Didn't hear about anyone or a good cause but their bank accounts. One act of compassion at a time? If you believe them for a second you're being played, and not even subtly :p
 
Honestly though I am yet to see a single racist headline, article, tweet, anything in the years she’s been on the scene.
There's definitely been some

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And the most liked replies call them out on it
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Meghan definitely does have some genuine grievances. But the Oprah thing didn't really address them and so many things that she said don't stand up to scrutiny.

She must have been fully aware what becoming a royal would mean long before the wedding day. I really don't think she ever intended to be a part of the royal family (not that I blame her I wouldn't either). But it could have been handled far better and not upset so many - unless the aim was to create as much publicity as possible.
 
This is the whole issue to me. People compare him and William and say well they both experienced Diana’s death, walking behind the coffin etc. The fact is, everyone’s different. Harry comes across as a very sensitive, impulsive man and has fairly low intelligence. I can’t hold it against him not being over what happened.
The issue is his entitlement and petulance. For example Being ‘cut off without a penny’, you’re a grown man fgs, and you were hardly going to be homeless. If he despised being in the RF, the press intrusion, the whole thing- why didn’t he up and move to Fiji, live in a hut on the beach and give up his titles and live in anonymity? Entitlement. He wants the trappings, the money, the privileges, all of it, but without the duties and responsibilities.
But William also appeared to be an angry man for years.... This one definitely did get therapy and it worked!
 
I was wondering (insprired by the maiden comment on this thread) if we could maybe keep a fact check of the lies/contradictions/claims they have made?

I've made a start:

Fact check: Is Archie entitled to a title?

Contradiction. He can be the Earl of Dumbarton but not a prince at the minute. He will be a prince when Charles ascends to the throne, as a grandchild of the monarch. The couple claim he were denied this.



Fact check: When did the conversation about the baby’s skin colour happen?

Contradiction. Meghan says she was relayed conversations in pregnancy, Harry comes on and says comments were made when they were dating.



Fact check: Did Samantha Markle change her name to Markle when Meghan started dating Harry?

No – Samantha has posted evidence she has always used Markle



Fact check: Did they RF remove protection?

Yes, but because H+M left their job. Archie will get protection when Charles ascends to the throne and he becomes a prince. They are not entitled to tax payer funded protection.



Fact check: Why did no one give Meghan help?

Not sure. Either Harry is the shittest husband in the world for leaving his suicidal wife flailing, or something else has happened. Why did her Obstetrician also not help? Her maternity apts would have flagged MH concerns. Who declined her help from within the palace? Is her mother not a mental health counsellor? Does her husband and brother not run a mental health charity? (Heads Together)



Fact check: Did the palace purposefully not help Meghan or did they not know about it?

Contradiction. Meghan says they refused because of the optics, Harry says he didn’t tell anyone because he was ashamed.



Fact check: Did Meghan know about the RF before meeting H?

Yes. There is a picture of her outside of Buckingham Palace. She had a Diana coffee table book. She fibbed about not Googling him.



Fact check: Who made who cry?

Contradiction: M says K made her cry. K was 2.5 weeks postpartum at the time (1 week before wedding). Journalist has doubled down on her story, insisting her sources are accurate.



Fact check: When were they actually married?

Contradiction. Official wedding seen by millions. M claims they were married in the ‘back yard’ three days before by the Archbishop of Canterbury ‘just the three of us’. This is problematic because in UK law you must be married in front of witnesses. The AoC can not marry people in unofficial locations either (they must be licenced). Also, two ceremonies would be bigamy

Fact check: Did the palace refuse to stick up for Meghan in regards to false stories?

Contradiction. Meghan says she was unprotected. Facts are that the palace intervened 8 times publicly to state that a story was false. A journalist has gone on the record too to say that she did not publish stories (numerous times) as the palace corrected her on her fact checking mission. Could it have been that Meghan doesn't know about the stories that didn't make it to press?

Fact check: Meghan states she hasnt seen Samantha in 19 years

No. There is a picture of them together in 2009.
She couldn't go out for lunch or meet up with friends
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I did a little Googling on how much Harry was left by both Diana and the QM. When Diana died, she left £13m to be split between Harry and William. After death duties, that went down to £8m, so Harry would have inherited £4m on his 30th birthday. When the QM died, she left them £14m, with Harry getting the larger share. Add to that the money he's been given by Prince Charles, and what he and Smegsy got through the Sovereign Grant, and they weren't exactly impoverished before they sulked off to LA.
 
I know I would like to see the proof too but whatever racism they faced here, if it ends up being worse in america what would they do?! Can't do another woe is me interview
They haven’t given a single example of racism, apart from the made up baby’s skin colour comment.
people with the woke disease on social media say things like ‘It’s inherent and institutional’, basically saying you don’t have to give evidence and that it’s more of a ‘vibe’. It’s pathetic. I don’t doubt she felt like a fish out of water at times, not close to them, but that’s because she was around for all of 2 minutes! And the time she was around she acted like an arrogant cow. She refuses to take any responsibility at all. It’s the royal family not a couple of bitchy girls not including you at school, it’s higher stakes in the RF and you just do have to earn your respect.
 
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