Harry and Meghan #70 Two weddings, lots of lies, someone's telling porky pies

[MillicentMargaret]

I think this was already mentioned in one of the other threads but a Swedish friend just reminded me that King Carl Gustav stripped 5 of his already born and granted titles grandchildren of their HRHs, all of whom were white. Including his beloved son's children who many Swedish people think he would still prefer to be his heirs.

He did it because it was necessary to streamline the royal house vs the family and because some of the children lived in Miami and it was causing a fuss, not to punish anyone. Those parents didn't publicly rant and whine that they lost their status. They accepted it and went on with their lives. Carl Philip himself hasn't complained that he was Crown Prince for all of 5 minutes.

ETA Clarity.

 

[Rayne]

I was just reading on Twitter Bojo didn’t watch the interview ( yes yes bojo you da man) and that he stands by his response he said yesterday In regards to the RF.

Boris had them sussed time ago.
At times like this I wish Trump had Twitter , I’d love to know his thoughts lol

It’s one of the very few times I’ve ever thought he actually responded in a correct manner to a question!

 

[Libbie]

She did seem fed up with him at the end. I wonder how much conversation or 'words' were had that were edited, just prior to the end part? You never know what was said that they're not showing us.
Harry really did not look happy at all for most of it either. Not sure if he's sad, angry or something else? he just looked uncomfortable. Maybe guilty even? of maybe starting to realise the consequences of what they've done.

Regarding a statement from BP..am wondering if they are waiting to complete their HR/bullying investigation before making a public statement?

It’s clear that he’s incredibly angry, and still carrying around a great deal of resentment regarding his mother’s death, and also his lot in life.
The very idea that he believes that he/they, should still receive tax payers money whilst living in Canada or the US is completely deluded!
He came across as a petulant, spoilt child that’s pissed off that he didn’t get his own way! He’s now trying to punish his father for that decision.. Charles, cut him loose!

 

[Ireckon]

Love the Just Jane bit on the bottom left corner

I loved the Budgiesmugglers bit
( at the top)

 

[Baguette]

This is the woke mentality in a nutshell. You’re not allowed to be colourblind, because thats ‘denying people’s lived experience’. But you also aren’t allowed to bring anything up at all about race (as a white person), because you’re then discriminating. Selective hearing as you say, and he’s been trained by Meghan to take on the woke perpetual victim mentality.

Harry has a long standing, borderline-paranoid, hostility towards the press. I could absolutely see a close family member saying before the engagement that the marriage he was contemplating (to a fame-hungry D-list actress) was going to bring him a bucket of press attention and some bigoted comments on social media, was Harry going to be able to cope with that?

They would be seriously worried about Harry's ability not to blow up at the press. And that's exactly what has happened, he's disappeared into the Facebook sewer and Daily Mail comments section since the wedding and lost his mind, judging by how pale and disturbed he looked on the Oprah show.

 

[Campagne]

I agree. Plus I think Kate was right to want her to wear tights. Maybe I'm prudish but if (god forbid) anything happened to George, Charlotte would one day be queen. If she'd tripped up all those steps bless her in her new shoes and flashed her royal little knickers/bum with the world watching she'd have been mortified in years to come. Mum was just being sensible I feel.

Meghan probably thought Kate was being a prude asking for tights. In “fashion” circles; tights are a no no even in January. Kate, as usual would have been thinking about what was best for the children, and Meghan, about her image.

 

[LadyMuck]

Ive not caught up on the thread so sorry if I repeat anything. Im disgusted shes played the mental health card, she knows full well that gets sympathy and people will say you can't be nasty to someone with mental health issues ect!

Us,Tattlers predicted she would say exactly that

"Carole Malone on Twitter: "My feeling about THAT interview is that for all Harry says he’s happy+despite the fact he has a wife+baby he adores he comes across as an angry, bitter, resentful man crippled by his sense of entitlement and his absolute belief that everyone in this situation is wrong -except him" / Twitter"

 

[Silbee]

I wonder what the mood is like at the Court of Montecito this day?

I would give a lot to be privy to that.

Are they happy? I don't think so.

I'm wondering also if Harry has had any personal feedback from the family?

 

[mb1202]

Harry has a long standing, borderline-paranoid, hostility towards the press. I could absolutely see a close family member saying before the engagement that the marriage he was contemplating (to a fame-hungry D-list actress) was going to bring him a bucket of press attention and some bigoted comments on social media, was Harry going to be able to cope with that?

They would be seriously worried about Harry's ability not to blow up at the press. And that's exactly what has happened, he's disappeared into the Facebook sewer and Daily Mail comments section since the wedding and lost his mind, judging by how pale and disturbed he looked on the Oprah show.

This could definitely have happened. That’s exactly the point, it may not have even been a personal opinion of said family member. Simply warning him about what some people’s reactions might be.
Honestly though I am yet to see a single racist headline, article, tweet, anything in the years she’s been on the scene.
I saw (only) one awful tweet where she’d been photoshopped to look like a monkey which is despicable, but there will always be a handful of deranged losers out there.
MM and H are making out that it was a nationwide issue, and that the press and family contributed to racist abuse. It’s total and utter shameful lies.

 

[Hoohumm]

I think this was already mentioned in one of the other threads but a Swedish friend just reminded me that King Carl Gustav stripped 5 of his already born grandchildren and titled of their HRHs. Including his beloved son's grandchildren who many Swedish people think he would still prefer to be his heirs.

He did it because it was necessary to streamline the royal house vs the family and because some of the children lived in Miami and it was causing a fuss, not to punish anyone. Those parents didn't publicly rant and whine that they lost their status. They accepted it and went on with their lives. Carl Philip himself hasn't complained that he was Crown Prince for all of 5 minutes.

No, they released lovely and supportive statements because they're all adults!!

 

[ResidentMerkin]

God knows PH is obsessed with baldness and they were also wondering if MM genes could correct that in their kids.

he is so thin-skinned and stupid, he was probably just shocked that he was asked to get out of bed before noon

 

[Opheliasweeds]

Best suggestion I’ve heard yet is that Andrew should take one for the team and own up to the “racist” comment on the basis that he’s got nothing to lose.

 

[Orangeinessex]

I wonder what is going to happen with Oprah and Harry and their series about mental health issues? Oprah didnt seem that warm to Harry in the interview, she was quite blunt and cutting with him!

And Harry isnt exactly a walking advert for the effectiveness of mental health treatments. It doesnt look as if any of the therapy he has done has started to address his issues, (which surely is the point of most therapy, therapy gives you the mental resources to change your life and change your thought processes so that you can move forwards in a positive and proactive way. and not just be mired in the past.)
Harry still seems mired in every negative event that has ever happened to him.

He is unable to see any positives.......realise any of his life chances...realise how his white priviledge worked for his benefit..immensely. He cant negotiate with his family, see anything from anyone elses perspective..

What a sad existance!

Not saying this is what has happened but.........

If Harry had some solid therapy and learnt to integrate his experiences, then the best chance he had of maintaining it is living a life that supports him in moving forward having accepted it to build his own life.

What might have happened is he has migrated to someone who triggers him every single freakin' minute of the day who wants him to live the life she wants for him (appealing if you don't like to take responsibility or easy to happen if you dont have good boundaries) so he is stuck living his worst life over and over again, like some crappy Groundhog Day.

If that is the case, nothing will change until Harry wants more / better for himself in terms of what he lives with in his head AND makes decisions for himself that put him first, which would include identifying and maintainng healthy boundaries.

Its then a case of whether his partner would be able to accommodate and support him through this process rather than take it an attack or a move of independance away from the relationship.

I think we know how it might play out while he is with Megan (probably not disimilar to how Diana would have reacted tbh - more triggers !).

If he is as weak / fragile as it seems, him being able to improve his lot is unlikely until she leaves him. I think the RF will take him back when this happens.

Just my thoughts.

 

[Libbie]

Best suggestion I’ve heard yet is that Andrew should take one for the team and own up to the “racist” comment on the basis that he’s got nothing to lose.

YES! ..and then ever so casually expose nutMeg and her yachting activities! That would be

 

[mb1202]

It’s clear that he’s incredibly angry, and still carrying around a great deal of resentment regarding his mother’s death, and also his lot in life.
The very idea that he believes that he/they, should still receive tax payers money whilst living in Canada or the US is completely deluded!
He came across as a petulant, spoilt child that’s pissed off that he didn’t get his own way! He’s now trying to punish his father for that decision.. Charles, cut him loose!

This is the whole issue to me. People compare him and William and say well they both experienced Diana’s death, walking behind the coffin etc. The fact is, everyone’s different. Harry comes across as a very sensitive, impulsive man and has fairly low intelligence. I can’t hold it against him not being over what happened.
The issue is his entitlement and petulance. For example Being ‘cut off without a penny’, you’re a grown man fgs, and you were hardly going to be homeless. If he despised being in the RF, the press intrusion, the whole thing- why didn’t he up and move to Fiji, live in a hut on the beach and give up his titles and live in anonymity? Entitlement. He wants the trappings, the money, the privileges, all of it, but without the duties and responsibilities.

 

[liar liar]

I wonder what the mood is like at the Court of Montecito this day?

I would give a lot to be privy to that.

Are they happy? I don't think so.

I'm wondering also if Harry has had any personal feedback from the family?

What actually makes up the Court of Montecito? No-one at all of any substance. Paid PR lackeys and a couple of house slaves is all.

 

[LadyMuck]

Good article by Arthue Edwards royal photographer who has known H all his life

"Oprah is the only winner in this sad Meghan and Harry spectacle - but it'll take more than this to topple the monarchy" https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14270088/royal-family-meghan-harry-oprah-interview-arthur-edwards/amp/

 

[Margo_Channing]

Can you imagine if they faced waaay more racism in america than they did in the UK, what would happen then?! Would she come crawling back?!

 

[Sick of the bs]

Not saying this is what has happened but.........

If Harry had some solid therapy and learnt to integrate his experiences, then the best chance he had of maintaining it is living a life that supports him in moving forward having accepted it to build his own life.

What might have happened is he has migrated to someone who triggers him every single freakin' minute of the day who wants him to live the life she wants for him (appealing if you don't like to take responsibility or easy to happen if you dont have good boundaries) so he is stuck living his worst life over and over again, like some crappy Groundhog Day.

If that is the case, nothing will change until Harry wants more / better for himself in terms of what he lives with in his head AND makes decisions for himself that put him first, which would include identifying and maintainng healthy boundaries.

Its then a case of whether his partner would be able to accommodate and support him through this process rather than take it an attack or a move of independance away from the relationship.

I think we know how it might play out while he is with Megan (probably not disimilar to how Diana would have reacted tbh - more triggers !).

If he is as weak / fragile as it seems, him being able to improve his lot is unlikely until she leaves him. I think the RF will take him back when this happens.

Just my thoughts.

Does anyone think he's manically facepalming today? Or has any notion of responsibility, respect and conscience completely left him so he's just happily stooped over in a hutch with his rescued chucks?

 

[Onetwofour]

A friend of mine just said on my chat group that Harry is an amazing and supportive husband (and that Meghan got it bad at the palace). I said Harry didn't help his wife to fully understand what does that mean to be a royal and that Meghan could have also known more about it by making her own research. I have been told Meghan is American and that's why she couldn't grasp it and apparently from the interview only her husband thaught her about the life in the Monarchy. Yeah sure. Meghan is an educated grown-up woman - with a background in international relationship studies. She had the means to inform herself and she had times before the wedding to ask all the questions she could have.

I am amazed how they managed to have their narrative as the only truth in the public space. It's quite genius.