Harry and Meghan #70 Two weddings, lots of lies, someone's telling porky pies

How long do you think Harry and Meghan will last?

  • 3 years and they'll breakup in 2021

    Votes: 156 14.2%
  • 4-5 years

    Votes: 530 48.2%
  • 6-7 years

    Votes: 171 15.5%
  • 8-9 years

    Votes: 41 3.7%
  • Until death does part

    Votes: 202 18.4%

  • Total voters
    1,100
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Meghan’s face when Oprah reacted the way she did to the comment almost had a hint of, shit I’ve gone too far. 100% Harry told her not to repeat that 😂


I beg you, watch the clip again.

She says it, Oprah goes :-o and Meghan tries to look enigmatic. Then Oprah says 'What....what....who is saying that?' and Meghan does this classic 'oops' body language thing where she shifts in her seat and rearranges her dress in a deeply uncomfortable way.

I agree, she had went too far, she realised it and knew she couldn't pedal back.

Oprah was really good at digging and circling back round to questions that were avoided. Very clever.
 
I don’t even know what to think about this whole mess, the interview was very watered down very well thought out and full of indirect digs. I believe it was either Charles or William that mentioned the babies race, but all these ill feelings and upset over race and not being protected won’t ever go away the speculation over the racist will only make matters worse bad blood and burnt bridges there’s definitely no mending this fall out.
 
I think I’m going to be violently sick. How can people get it so horribly wrong. ‘Authentic self’ she’s a fucking narcissist and sociopath without a genuine bone in her body. Not welcomed? Tell that to the £50million wedding, the titles, the cottage, Sandringham Christmas before being married, one on one time with the Queen, extremely positive press before she exposed her true colours. Liar, playing the race and mental health cards because they’re topical at the moment. She isn’t an innocent victim :sick: :sick:
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Saw this cringe on Matt Haig's Instagram. Claims of mental illness and suicide ARE suspicious when they come from a known narcissist and liar 😂. I have been diagnosed with severe depression and anxiety and I think we need to acknowledge that sadly there are narcissists in this world who lie about these things! I know a few awful people irl who lie about this stuff for sympathy and narc supply 😤 View attachment 474496 q
‘It’s whether you think the royal soap opera should be headline news’?! THEY MADE IT HEADLINE NEWS BY GOING ON FUCKING OPRAH!
 
Ever since the interview came out, I've been wondering about posting this. I have bipolar disorder and suffered childhood abuse. I have been suicidal over many years. The only thing that stopped me was knowing my children would have to live with it, if I did it.

It's my instinct to believe people who talk about feeling suicidal. It's a very difficult thing to admit and can cause even more emotional pain. It's not something I discuss unless it's with other people who know what those feelings are. I do my best to protect my family and friends because I don't want to cause them pain. Perhaps that's just me.

I have spent weeks, even months fighting suicide. I've been unable to wash, get out of bed. I cried until my eyes were swollen and raw, my nose bright red and scratches all over me from where I've tried to turn the emotional pain into physical pain just to escape the emotions for just a few minutes. I've taken far too many sleeping pills to get away from it, because sleep is the only time you don't hurt.

Never, have I been suicidal, yet able to put a full face of make up on, done my hair and wear a stunning dress within a few hours of those feelings. It just wouldn't have been possible for me to do that. I don't know anyone who could have done that either. And over the years, I've been in a lot of mental health groups.

Please do not feel sorry for me. In the 40 or so years I've had mental health problems, I've learned a lot of things about myself and I've learned a lot of tricks to help me deal with these feelings. Like I said, it's not something I discuss unless it's with other people who suffer in the same way I do.

So I take issue with the 'suicidal' feelings claim. Those, as far as I'm concerned, were not suicidal feelings. She belittles what suicidal feelings are and undermines the suffering undergone by others. For me, this is dispicable behaviour.

Okay, I'm done, won't be talking about this again. If anyone does feel suicidal/depressed/down however, feel free to message me. If I can't help, I'll point you in the direction of someone who can.
 
My money’s on Kate being the one who mentioned Archie’s skin colour.

The way Meghan was conceding positive bits about the rest of the RF but put the boot into Kate points to this.

But, crying over flowergirl dresses in your thirties, come the fuck on.
I reckon it was William. We had heard that William talked to him about not rushing into marrying her, get to know her first. I think something about the children could be a natural part of this conversation. AND it would have caused or added to the drama between the two of them. I think if Kate had said it Megan would have been nastier about Kate in the interview.
Megan didnt even mention William AND because of who he is I dont think they can mention it was William. I also think it would have only been William be bold enough, being Harrys big brother, to say this sort of thing.

Yes crying over the dresses, grow up, she had told us they weren't that keen on the great big fancy wedding anyway, what would she care what the kids wore.
 
I still don’t understand why they’ve done the interview now. She’s heavily pregnant and knew there would be a massive fallout from this on both sides it must be stressful for her. The only thing I can think is they’re skint (in their terms) and need the exposure. Why would you put yourself through all this now?
Because she loves being the centre of attention.
 
The Queen has always lived by the "never complain, never explain" mantra, and I am quite sure that she will have already advised everybody in her family to abide by it, too.

There will be no response to Meghan's allegations from BP.

This will annoy Meghan. She will feel that she has been ignored. She may even feel (and say) that the RF must be guilty, as they have not refuted any of her claims or debunked her accusations.

Whichever way it is spun, the Palace will win ultimately. Maintaining a dignified silence is the quickest way to make untrue stories and baseless accusations go away.
Here are some suggestions for TQ's response
"We have all, in my family, myself included, listened very carefully to the statements shared by my grandson and his wife over the last few days and given them great thought and consideration. If any remarks by any member of my family or staff gave anyone the impression that we were in any way disrespectful to Harry, Meghan or their child or anyone of any race, heritage, creed or identity, then my family and I deeply regret it."
"I deeply regret that mistakes were made [like letting megsy within sight of the British Isles ever]. If my [child's/grandchild's/great grandchild's - face it. It could have been Lady Louise or even Prince George innocently asking... or Zara? or Mike in a joking way?] question to Harry struck anyone as offensive, I am sorry, as that certainly was not anyone's intention. "
"I am sorry that certain comments offended some people, but, at the very least, I am happy that they started a some important self-reflection and conversation about diversity in the UK, the Royal Family, its staff and important causes."
" Nobody is sorrier than I that my grandson and his wife had to spend their valuable time attending the $45m wedding we arranged for them - usurping the original wedding date of my other grandchild Eugenie - attending certain day and evening events in expensive gowns, accompanying me, TQ, to certain other events, carrying out a state visit to Morocco, Oceania and South Africa and wearing $1m wardrobes. Though from my personal standpoint I know for a certainty that the burden of the tiara was lifted when we reminded her it was on loan only and asked for it to be returned before she took it to Australia. Please accept my expression of deep regret at this unfortunate misunderstanding and heavy imposition on, delay to and interruption of your actual ambitions and objectives."
.... and end it with something super duper final like "We thought that by giving them the freedom, independence and $30m they said they wanted, this would help rectify and repair the emotional and mental damage they felt their role in the RF subjected them to. This was apparently not the case and my family and I now understand that the damage is irreparable. We can only grant them full and complete removal from any possible shadow of Royal Life so that they can begin to heal and find the happiness they deserve. We wish them the best of luck -- please send back all copies of keys, contact information and secret passwords. Thank you. Oh and you will be hearing from our Ambassador who will be executing the wishes of Parliament henceforth"

Ok I was googling what the flower girl dresses looked like after tight gate and found this. So there was a big debate whether the girls should wear tights on a hot day but not that the poor boys were dressed head to toe in heavy black suits ! Poor kids 🤪 I remember now thinking it was a strange choice for wee boys !
wasn't there a bit of a scuffle betweeen the flower kids at one point while walking down the aisle? Cannot remember if it was while M was still alone or when her hated nasty terrible FIL accompanied her. Can anyone find it?
 
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If the palace just left it - didn’t respond. Went about their day - how long before they would explode and do another interview. Americans on Twitter can yell racism as much as they like. They got independence a long time ago. what if Piers Morgan stopped talking about them.
wouldn’t it drop off the news eventually, especially as H&M have said they sent going to say anything more.
then they are done. Starve them of oxygen. Put up the shutters. They are apolitical so should do they job they are meant to do.
 
My online expectant mum’s group (thanks covid) had a thread where all the mothers who would be having children with mixed parentage were guessing what the kids would look like. Harry did say he was “shocked” by the comments tho so I think this was more than “ohh do you think he’ll keep the red hair” and not just in good fun as he was offended enough to tell Meghan.
God knows PH is obsessed with baldness and they were also wondering if MM genes could correct that in their kids.
 
I reckon it was William. We had heard that William talked to him about not rushing into marrying her, get to know her first. I think something about the children could be a natural part of this conversation. AND it would have caused or added to the drama between the two of them. I think if Kate had said it Megan would have been nastier about Kate in the interview.
Megan didnt even mention William AND because of who he is I dont think they can mention it was William. I also think it would have only been William be bold enough, being Harrys big brother, to say this sort of thing.

Yes crying over the dresses, grow up, she had told us they weren't that keen on the great big fancy wedding anyway, what would she care what the kids wore.
When are people going to grasp that no one said anything at all and that she is a LIAR. William suggested Harry take it slow because it’s common sense, and it’s literally what William himself did. He was proved right, look how horribly wrong it went marrying her.
The very idea that the ridiculous unsubstantiated comment that Meghan didn’t even hear herself is true, is just sickening and lends itself to speculation which was clearly their aim as they didn’t name anyone. They can’t, because it would be a lie and they’d face libel lawsuits.
Can anyone really hand on heart say that a) they view Meghan as black or B) that they honestly think the royals would think a light skinned, mixed race woman and a white ginger haired man would have a dark skinned baby? It doesn’t even add up on that level.
 
With regards to the “race” issues:
2: I hate how she has portrayed the British public as being racist. ....
I despise the fact that this narcissistic woman has tarred us all with racism brush. It doesn’t matter what the colour of your skin is, if you’re a horrible person, you’re a horrible person irrespective of race.

Completely agree. I think it was Joanna Lumley on the Last Leg that said she wouldn't be watching because this sort of thing spreads hate and is divisive. Look at the state of the media today and the boards here and elsewhere on the net. We're all focussing in on the problem of racism and disagreeing about it. It isn't solving anything its just upsetting everyone. Fights starting everywhere. I'm seeing black and mixed race people saying they are tired of having to explain it all. I as a white person am feeling like basically I may as well just admit I'm a racist. I'm not, but if someone says what I say/think is, I have absolutely no defence. And even if I argue about it they can say "its systemic racism", its "unconscious bias" and I'm racist without knowing it. I'm just not allowed to have an opinion when it comes to race. This makes me feel much more worried about it and doesn't help.
I thought the point of BLM was that we white people are needed to see this stuff and be part of the conversation so that everyone can be equal. That is never going to happen if we're slammed down when we try.
And all this is because of that one woman. This is what she has started in our country and across the world. I still firmly believe that the attitudes towards her were not because of her race. I do think there probably is racism within the BRF and the institution, I don't doubt it exists but I for one was very positive about her, saw her as a breath of fresh air. Well boy was I wrong, she's actually a dementor, sucking the life from everyone and everything around her.
And its not like she's done it to fight or to promote a worthy cause or to shine a light on the situation. She's just done it for attention and fame. Because its what she wants and she does't give a damn about what harm she's causing to her own family, to his family, to the wider public who are having this rammed down their throat.

Sorry for the glum post. I don't think she's won, everything moves on, but just right now this feels really crap.
 
I think I’m going to be violently sick. How can people get it so horribly wrong. ‘Authentic self’ she’s a fucking narcissist and sociopath without a genuine bone in her body. Not welcomed? Tell that to the £50million wedding, the titles, the cottage, Sandringham Christmas before being married, one on one time with the Queen, extremely positive press before she exposed her true colours. Liar, playing the race and mental health cards because they’re topical at the moment. She isn’t an innocent victim :sick: :sick:
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I will never understand organisations like this. Not against Meg, it could be anyone else. But this god like worship! So unprofessional! Like Hitler or any other cult, even some so called fan group.
 
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