Gender Discussion #69

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Em_gardener said:
It really is surreal. He's just sitting there acting all confused about how we can figure out what a woman is. Not to mention the bs about them being willing to listen. They're not willing to listen to the people who they accuse of wanting to own the definition of a woman. The way he describes Khelif being born a woman, competing as a woman and having female on the passport is exactly what would have happened with Caster Semenya and look how that turned out. He's acting like he's never heard of DSD before when you can be sure he knows all about it from that case.
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Every biological woman can define what a woman is! Keep taking the money Bach, bloody traitor.
 
SweetPerdita said:
I'm very GC, but how is a person born with a vagina and a uterus, who does not have and has never had a penis or testicles, who is able to get pregnant and give birth, a man?

The rumour that IK has XY chromosomes does appear to be only a rumour and not confirmed, as they've not undergone verified freechromosome testing (only hormone testing).

I'm sorry but I think it's really scary that someone who's able to get pregnant and give birth is considered a man.
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Well his insta is full of pictures of him wearing suits and looking manly. I must’ve missed the pics of all the kids he has born out of his uterus 🤔
 
SweetPerdita said:
I'm very GC, but how is a person born with a vagina and a uterus, who does not have and has never had a penis or testicles, who is able to get pregnant and give birth, a man?

The rumour that IK has XY chromosomes does appear to be only a rumour and not confirmed, as they've not undergone verified freechromosome testing (only hormone testing).

I'm sorry but I think it's really scary that someone who's able to get pregnant and give birth is considered a man.
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Who is the ‘someone who's able to get pregnant and give birth’ that you are speaking of here?

And where is it stated that Khelif has only undergone hormone testing? This is not what is stated in the widely published documents from the IBA, which are explicit that the failed eligibility test was a test other than a testosterone test (and thereby, by default, a cheek swab/DNA test).
 
What’s all the fuss about. Who cares if she’s from Iran

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idk21 said:
📣📣📣

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I wonder what the consequences are if IBA were to release confidential medical information?

I feel like it’s heading that way. I suspect IBA’s motivation is their beef with IOC rather than the rights of women. So I’m wondering how far they will go with it. I’m not necessarily agreeing with it because it could become a slippery slope for others (I don’t care about the cheating boxers in this instance. They know what they are doing) and no doubt they would just try and discredit the testing anyway - fake documents or something. But it feels like nobody is backing down and I’m pleased people are continuing to pushback on the IOC.
 
Lynn’ssnazzycardigan said:
Well his insta is full of pictures of him wearing suits and looking manly. I must’ve missed the pics of all the kids he has born out of his uterus 🤔
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Yes, and I can’t imagine many Algerian women, from a cultural perspective, would ever entertain not being dressed modestly. And I don’t even mean a hijab necessarily, but being covered from wrist to ankle.

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