Dating after lockdown #37 - One thing men are consistent with is the AUDACITY.

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Its getting worse. It turns out over the past 'over a year', he ghosted her several times, stood her up twice and they both kept circling each other though. She says she loves him, she showed me some texts last night and Im gonna go out on a limb and say the man is emotional abusive and has lovebombed and headfucked her to the point that she thinks she loves him. Im almost certain that he will come back at some point and she wont be able to say no.

She did however tell me something about one of his friends which he obviously doesn't realise is classed as a sexual offence so I have reported it anonymusly to the police. You judge people by the company they keep, right? Small wins.
 
Its getting worse. It turns out over the past 'over a year', he ghosted her several times, stood her up twice and they both kept circling each other though. She says she loves him, she showed me some texts last night and Im gonna go out on a limb and say the man is emotional abusive and has lovebombed and headfucked her to the point that she thinks she loves him. Im almost certain that he will come back at some point and she wont be able to say no.

She did however tell me something about one of his friends which he obviously doesn't realise is classed as a sexual offence so I have reported it anonymusly to the police. You judge people by the company they keep, right? Small wins.

Your friend should seek professional help.

I am sorry, but I do not really have anything else useful to say.
She might be caught in a trauma bond or something like this, but you won't be able to help her if she does not want to help herself by seeking professional help.
 
Its getting worse. It turns out over the past 'over a year', he ghosted her several times, stood her up twice and they both kept circling each other though. She says she loves him, she showed me some texts last night and Im gonna go out on a limb and say the man is emotional abusive and has lovebombed and headfucked her to the point that she thinks she loves him. Im almost certain that he will come back at some point and she wont be able to say no.

She did however tell me something about one of his friends which he obviously doesn't realise is classed as a sexual offence so I have reported it anonymusly to the police. You judge people by the company they keep, right? Small wins.
Tbh your original post made me think this guy was emotionally abusing her with the silent treatment thing which is a definite red flag. I've been there, it'll be a rough few days/weeks/months for her but just be there for her, without judgment. Her mind is probably all over the place and it'll take a while to heal. She needs a good friend to support her so just be there when she needs you.
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Your friend should seek professional help.

I am sorry, but I do not really have anything else useful to say.
She might be caught in a trauma bond or something like this, but you won't be able to help her if she does not want to help herself by seeking professional help.

So true re trauma bonding, it's so hard. I'm still dealing with it 2 years after I split up with my ex
 
Its getting worse. It turns out over the past 'over a year', he ghosted her several times, stood her up twice and they both kept circling each other though. She says she loves him, she showed me some texts last night and Im gonna go out on a limb and say the man is emotional abusive and has lovebombed and headfucked her to the point that she thinks she loves him. Im almost certain that he will come back at some point and she wont be able to say no.

She did however tell me something about one of his friends which he obviously doesn't realise is classed as a sexual offence so I have reported it anonymusly to the police. You judge people by the company they keep, right? Small wins.
The victim of the sexual offence may not have wanted to have got the police involved though?
 
@Archduchess of Luxembourg I feel so sad for your friend that she accepts this treatment and behaviour from him 😢 he sounds like a walking red flag and she needs to run fast, block him everywhere and try to forget he exists. All you can do is be there to support her and encourage to seek professional help but please take care of yourself too. It can be difficult taking on the emotional load of a loved ones feelings/experiences etc ❤️
 
I had my psychic reading and tbh I am disappointed. She said the person who's come back into my life is not the person for me and I should not settle. Which is fine. But she's also said that I need to focus on myself loving myself more and basically not seeing anyone in my path right now for romantic love, which she did see 2 years ago someone coming this year. She also doesn't see it by this time next year. She's also said that the future is fluid so this could change, suggested therapy and working on myself and if someone new comes into my life, to give them a chance
 
Tattlers, you are worth so much more than waiting around for a man to validate you. You will never be content, if you continue to be so bothered about whether a man wants you or not. I spent 20 years doing it, (four partners) and none of those men give two shits about me now (I doubt they truly did when we were together either). It was rough. I gave a lot and didn’t get a whole lot back.

That’s the cliff notes.

I am thoroughly in my decentering men era now, and the longer I’m in it, the more I’m convinced this concept of “romantic love” is a scam designed to oppress women. 50/50 bills? No thanks, I can pay my own bills. Why would I want to pay half of more than what I was paying before. Makes no sense. Cleaning. Cooking. Compromise. I don’t want to be an unpaid maid/housekeeper for a man who is now a little too relaxed because he has “got” me. In fact, I want a man to stay very unrelaxed around me. Maybe then he will always have respect, and not take me for granted. The vast majority of women are not compromising in relationships, they are SACRIFICING and SELF ABANDONING. And when the guy is done with you, and ready to move on, what are you left with? Debts? Therapy bills? A shattered sense of self? What’s the long term cost vs benefit exactly?

One toxic relationship can set you back YEARS in terms of progress for your life. Tell me I’m lying. It’s easy to look at “so and so friend and her boyfriend” and think “I so wish I had someone too” but most of the time what you see on social media, heck even what your friend is telling you is an ILLUSION. Yes there are women who straight up boast about how fantastic their partner is to you, but will secretly cry themselves to sleep at night. Ever had a friend tell you about her most recent break up, and the TEA she has about that man is NEXT LEVEL. But you are there thinking “ wait, isn’t this the same guy you told me was the one?

I rest my case.

Most men want us for our looks, our bodies, our utility. The “love” concept is the sales pitch. But the reality of this “love” is often conditional. The relationship is about what we can “do” for them.

The love I have for my daughter and my dogs is unconditional. A man will never provide that for me.

I’ve recently upgraded my philosophy on dating. I’ll pay for NOTHING ever when it comes to a man who wants a chance with me. And I’ll never allow any man access to my body without there being clear evidence of what the long term benefit to me is. An orgasm isn’t a long term benefit. But isn’t that a bit cold? Transactional? Men have been thinking like this SINCE FOREVER. They think logically, without emotion. Cost vs benefit. They will look you straight in the eye, and swear on their dad’s grave they want a relationship, but will string you along while they look for something better. So why is it as soon as a woman thinks like this, all of a sudden she is selfish and “bitter.” Who benefits from us feeling like we shouldn’t prioritise ourself first?

But what do you bring to the table Olgivy? He better bring the ENTIRE table, otherwise what do I gain from having this man in my life? Cheap compliments? WhatsApp messages? A few meals out here and there? Sitting beside him on the sofa while he watches the TV? I can do all that and more with my GIRLFRIENDS. What does he have to offer me? We all know most men have zero emotional intelligence. So what is there to gain exactly? Sex? Is that it? What else?

This is the way it’s going to be for me now. Evaluating and deciding. Pure logic. Benefits. Unbothered. The way I see it, a guy who takes me for a cheap meal out, and makes a bunch of cheap promises is not even on my stage 1 radar.

What does he have to offer me?

I have never felt so empowered and peaceful. ❤️
 
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Tattlers, you are worth so much more than waiting around for a man to validate you. You will never be content, if you continue to be so bothered about whether a man wants you or not. I spent 20 years doing it, (four partners) and none of those men give two shits about me now (I doubt they truly did when we were together either). It was rough. I gave a lot and didn’t get a whole lot back.

That’s the cliff notes.

I am thoroughly in my decentering men era now, and the longer I’m in it, the more I’m convinced this concept of “romantic love” is a scam designed to oppress women. 50/50 bills? No thanks, I can pay my own bills. Why would I want to pay half of more than what I was paying before. Makes no sense. Cleaning. Cooking. Compromise. I don’t want to be an unpaid maid/housekeeper for a man who is now a little too relaxed because he has “got” me. In fact, I want a man to stay very unrelaxed around me. Maybe then he will always have respect, and not take me for granted. The vast majority of women are not compromising in relationships, they are SACRIFICING and SELF ABANDONING. And when the guy is done with you, and ready to move on, what are you left with? Debts? Therapy bills? A shattered sense of self? What’s the long term cost vs benefit exactly?

One toxic relationship can set you back YEARS in terms of progress for your life. Tell me I’m lying. It’s easy to look at “so and so friend and her boyfriend” and think “I so wish I had someone too” but most of the time what you see on social media, heck even what your friend is telling you is an ILLUSION. Yes there are women who straight up boast about how fantastic their partner is to you, but will secretly cry themselves to sleep at night. Ever had a friend tell you about her most recent break up, and the TEA she has about that man is NEXT LEVEL. But you are there thinking “ wait, isn’t this the same guy you told me was the one?

I rest my case.

Most men want us for our looks, our bodies, our utility. The “love” concept is the sales pitch. But the reality of this “love” is often conditional. The relationship is about what we can “do” for them.

The love I have for my daughter and my dogs is unconditional. A man will never provide that for me.

I’ve recently upgraded my philosophy on dating. I’ll pay for NOTHING ever when it comes to a man who wants a chance with me. And I’ll never allow any man access to my body without there being clear evidence of what the long term benefit to me is. An orgasm isn’t a long term benefit. But isn’t that a bit cold? Transactional? Men have been thinking like this SINCE FOREVER. They think logically, without emotion. Cost vs benefit. They will look you straight in the eye, and swear on their dad’s grave they want a relationship, but will string you along while they look for something better. So why is it as soon as a woman thinks like this, all of a sudden she is selfish and “bitter.” Who benefits from us feeling like we shouldn’t prioritise ourself first?

But what do you bring to the table Olgivy? He better bring the ENTIRE table, otherwise what do I gain from having this man in my life? Cheap compliments? WhatsApp messages? A few meals out here and there? Sitting beside him on the sofa while he watches the TV? I can do all that and more with my GIRLFRIENDS. What does he have to offer me? We all know most men have zero emotional intelligence. So what is there to gain exactly? Sex? Is that it? What else?

This is the way it’s going to be for me now. Evaluating and deciding. Pure logic. Benefits. Unbothered. The way I see it, a guy who takes me for a cheap meal out, and makes a bunch of cheap promises is not even on my stage 1 radar.

What does he have to offer me?

I have never felt so empowered and peaceful. ❤
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I’m in this era too!!!!! No one is good enough for me. Show me how you are worth my attention when I’m worth so little of your effort. I got talking to a man on tinder, moved to WhatsApp and then he basically ghosted me after a nice convo and asking to meet.
im DONE. You will not have any impact on how I feel about myself because 1) I’ve never met you 2)I’m worth a million of you and I gind your pointless window shopping rather sad
I have friends who are smug about their partners but not one has a relationship or a man that I would want so I’m not jealous.
I’ll continue looking like a blonde bimbo (as I was told by the FWB who thought because of his profession he was better than me) I’ll continue being kind, a nice friend, a good listener and if I never have sex again what am I missing? None of it’s that memorable or worth the crushing anxiety of if they’ve distanced themselves after.
you are an amazing person in what you wrote and it resonates with me beyond words xx
 
I gave it another go and wish I hadn’t bothered 😂😂😂why text someone for over a day and then just stop, very strange is this a common thing? Like the tyre kickers that pretend to want to buy a car 😂😂

Stop and walk away.

I have embodied a new attitude when it comes to men. I am telling them what I expect (a gift at each date - I’m not joking when I tell you I’ve collected a few handbags over the weeks - not Chanel but a good £200+) I don’t even kiss on the first date and they know this.

Give men an inch and they’ll take what they want from you. Tell them how you expect to be treated and they’ll jump.
 
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I’m in this era too!!!!! No one is good enough for me. Show me how you are worth my attention when I’m worth so little of your effort. I got talking to a man on tinder, moved to WhatsApp and then he basically ghosted me after a nice convo and asking to meet.
im DONE. You will not have any impact on how I feel about myself because 1) I’ve never met you 2)I’m worth a million of you and I gind your pointless window shopping rather sad
I have friends who are smug about their partners but not one has a relationship or a man that I would want so I’m not jealous.
I’ll continue looking like a blonde bimbo (as I was told by the FWB who thought because of his profession he was better than me) I’ll continue being kind, a nice friend, a good listener and if I never have sex again what am I missing? None of it’s that memorable or worth the crushing anxiety of if they’ve distanced themselves after.
you are an amazing person in what you wrote and it resonates with me beyond words xx

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I know it can get lonely sometimes (especially at night times). But how many women go to bed lonely even though their husband is right there? A LOT OF WOMEN. The best thing we can do as women is to take all emotion out of it, and be ruthless in evaluating the benefits we would gain from a partnership. We only get one life. We cannot waste years damaging our psyches for a man who never had anything to offer us to begin with. You say blonde bimbo, I hear blonde BEAUTY. If a man wants to go out with a blonde beauty, then he needs to make it worth your while. You get what YOU want. You are taken care of. Life is made easier for you. And he gets the status of having a blonde beauty in return. That’s the invisible transaction. Your looks. Your body. And tending to his ego, while you play dumb sitting in his Porsche. 😉

Take care of your assets. The way you look is very valuable. And for a man to access it, they have to offer something of value to you. We could have all of the degrees in the world, an IQ of 150, and have the sweetest soul but it all comes down to sex in their eyes. I wish it wasn’t this way, but it just is. So play the game. You don’t verbalise any of this to him. You keep it to yourself. You become smart. Keep something back for yourself. Forget the fairytale nonsense. That tit is used to blindside women, and men know it. Figure out quickly that if things were to go south, you will not end up pulling the short straw. Decide now that a lengthy “heartbreak” is a thing of the past. Sure, you may love someone again one day. But when the balance is tipped in your favour, and the relationship goes south, how long do you think you will be nursing your wounds for? 7 days on a beach in the Maldives? On to the next. X
 
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I know it can get lonely sometimes (especially at night times). But how many women go to bed lonely even though their husband is right there? A LOT OF WOMEN. The best thing we can do as women is to take all emotion out of it, and be ruthless in evaluating the benefits we would gain from a partnership. We only get one life. We cannot waste years damaging our psyches for a man who never had anything to offer us to begin with. You say blonde bimbo, I hear blonde BEAUTY. If a man wants to go out with a blonde beauty, then he needs to make it worth your while. You get what YOU want. You are taken care of. Life is made easier for you. And he gets the status of having a blonde beauty in return. That’s the invisible transaction. Your looks. Your body. And tending to his ego, while you play dumb sitting in his Porsche. 😉

Take care of your assets. The way you look is very valuable. And for a man to access it, they have to offer something of value to you. We could have all of the degrees in the world, an IQ of 150, and have the sweetest soul but it all comes down to sex in their eyes. I wish it wasn’t this way, but it just is. So play the game. You don’t verbalise any of this to him. You keep it to yourself. You become smart. Keep something back for yourself. Forget the fairytale nonsense. That tit is used to blindside women, and men know it. Figure out quickly that if things were to go south, you will not end up pulling the short straw. Decide now that a lengthy “heartbreak” is a thing of the past. Sure, you may love someone again one day. But when the balance is tipped in your favour, and the relationship goes south, how long do you think you will be nursing your wounds for? 7 days on a beach in the Maldives? On to the next. X
Bloody hell you’re on fire 🔥 girl!!! Have you thought of writing a book because what you’re saying resonates more than any of the lame self help tit I’ve read online 💕💕xx
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Stop and walk away.

I have embodied a new attitude when it comes to men. I am telling them what I expect (a gift at each date - I’m not joking when I tell you I’ve collected a few handbags over the weeks - not Chanel but a good £200+) I don’t even kiss on the first date and they know this.

Give men an inch and they’ll take what they want from you. Tell them how you expect to be treated and they’ll jump.
Can’t remeber who it was on here who said a lot of them on apps don’t have any intention of dating and/or are probably married so they chat to women as an ego boost that they can, but no intention of moving it forward. I work 60 hours a week ain’t got time for that 😂😂
 
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Bloody hell you’re on fire 🔥 girl!!! Have you thought of writing a book because what you’re saying resonates more than any of the lame self help tit I’ve read online 💕💕xx
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I have something planned for next year. I am filling up my creative well right now, doing lots of walks with my dogs and meditating. I work on my studies and business plans in the evenings. I’m productive, and focused. Why? Because I don’t have any parasitic men in my life clouding my judgement, and taking more than they give. Who knew life could be so good? The “fairytale” narrative we are fed in society is hurting a lot of women. It almost killed me. When I look at some of my old photos—-this witch looked fucked up. 😂 But, with my new mindset, my skin is glowing, I’m losing weight and maintaining it easier, my hair is even thicker. The peace I feel is unlike anything I’ve ever experienced before, and I will not trade it for a Sunday pub lunch and boring conversation. I’m mid thirties, it took me my whole life to get it. But once you get it, you can’t revert back to your old thinking patterns. The price is too high.
 
I have something planned for next year. I am filling up my creative well right now, doing lots of walks with my dogs and meditating. I work on my studies and business plans in the evenings. I’m productive, and focused. Why? Because I don’t have any parasitic men in my life clouding my judgement, and taking more than they give. Who knew life could be so good? The “fairytale” narrative we are fed in society is hurting a lot of women. It almost killed me. When I look at some of my old photos—-this witch looked fucked up. 😂 But, with my new mindset, my skin is glowing, I’m losing weight and maintaining it easier, my hair is even thicker. The peace I feel is unlike anything I’ve ever experienced before, and I will not trade it for a Sunday pub lunch and boring conversation. I’m mid thirties, it took me my whole life to get it. But once you get it, you can’t revert back to your old thinking patterns. The price is too high.
You need to be a motivational speaker!!! Yes I’ve been on too many dates over the years when you’re just looking at the clock thinking can we just get the bill because I’m bored out of my tiny brain. The ones I have liked have clearly been so toxic they’ve given me years of trauma for a relationship that probably lasted 4 weeks 🙈🙈
 
The ones I have liked have clearly been so toxic they’ve given me years of trauma for a relationship that probably lasted 4 weeks 🙈🙈

Right. And we then wonder why they can “move on” so quickly and act so unaffected. That’s because they ARE unaffected. The balance was always in their favour, so they have nothing to “heal” from. So we will do the same now. Cheers 🥂😂
 
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