Dan Wheeler 8020 #3 Drugs, mantrums & lies. NOT qualified to medically advise.

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EllyMay said:
Out of curiosity, what would you like to see happen to him and 80/20?

For me I'd first like him to pay up for chucking the fermented herring around are building and apologise to the manager for threatening her.Then I'd like to see him admit he's got anger issues and deep seated issues towards women and seek therapy. Not sure what else really. I wouldn't say I wish for terrible things to happen too him. One good thing that's come out of his crappy behaviour is that the fish incident meant we talked to a lot of other companies in the building and made friendships, united in repulsion.
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I didn’t realise he’d threatened the manager too!
 
Indigo-waters said:
Same here!



Agree, it just sounds very familiar from what I've heard from others along the way. My guess is he called her, asked her to 'cease and desist' and post this statement, or else he will get the lawyers onto her. And unfortunately, even though we all know he has no grounds it's still quite scary to hear, for the same reasons so many of us are still remaining anonymous...
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This is without a doubt what happened- I said earlier I bet she wasn’t expecting his call - that way he’s in the position of power and she has been blindsided.
 
Aaryhaflint said:
i used to watch Dan’s lives every day, after I’d try and cram in my 10,000 steps (that you HAVE to do, as apparently calories can’t be worked out for less than 10,000 steps) between dropping my kids to school and going to work, and my husband used to listen and tell me how much tripe he was talking. I would literally sit and watch his lives of him getting pissed with Sam, and he would just roll his eyes and tell me he’s running a cult and why is he only aiming it at women and how what he’s saying isn’t correct. My husband is a professional sportsman and would literally tell me the facts and how things work and I would categorically ignore him and tell him some guy off TikTok is the most qualified and experienced person In the UK😂😂😂he now spends his evenings reading through tattle with me with a smug face telling me he was right, it’s the highlight of his day😂😂
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100% this... Same for my partner, worst bit is when he tells me 'I told you so' I have to agree with him... Gosh, I was so sucked in.

And, getting those steps in was majorly stressing me out, I was agitated until I knew I would be able to get out and get them in, I never felt like I could just relax for a day as I knew there was no way to make the step defect up another day (10k steps was hard enough already).

Oh and can we just mention the protein?? I spend an absolute fortune on protein products, drinks, bars, I ate lean meat or eggs every meal and never once did I hit my protein goal even then.

And you must eat all your calories... I was eating for the sake of eating topping up with Crisps and chocolate bars. Now I eat when I want and generally my calories come in at about 1600 most days, and if I am hungry, I eat more, but still never as much as DW gave me...

Rant over...
 
Just going to leave this here.😂
 

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Indigo-waters said:
100% this... Same for my partner, worst bit is when he tells me 'I told you so' I have to agree with him... Gosh, I was so sucked in.

And, getting those steps in was majorly stressing me out, I was agitated until I knew I would be able to get out and get them in, I never felt like I could just relax for a day as I knew there was no way to make the step defect up another day (10k steps was hard enough already).

Oh and can we just mention the protein?? I spend an absolute fortune on protein products, drinks, bars, I ate lean meat or eggs every meal and never once did I hit my protein goal even then.

And you must eat all your calories... I was eating for the sake of eating topping up with Crisps and chocolate bars. Now I eat when I want and generally my calories come in at about 1600 most days, and if I am hungry, I eat more, but still never as much as DW gave me...

Rant over...
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definitely.
If I didn’t get my steps in I would write myself off for the day.
the ‘You have to eat all Your calories’....I just used this as an excuse to have extra on an evening. Like I 100% knew (as I had been on numerous TDEE calculators) that I shouldn’t be eating that amount, but because I was told to eat the extra calories, I would justify eating tit on an evening!
 
Hi all I joined the 80/20 plan about 10 weeks ago what a complete waste of money, I could have worked out the calories myself as that’s all I’ve got so far for the £25 per month, everything has been a hard sell since trying to get you to pay more for things that were or should be included in the plan information. Why would I pay £55 for ebook recipes? Most expensive books I’ve ever heard of. The last sleep zoom they wanted £17 each for and I’ve not heard one member thank him for his advice during that, I can imagine it was all about melatonin! Which you can’t buy in the UK or get prescribed easily, surely if one person ended up ill or worse from taking something not available here or prescribable he could be in serious trouble.

The latest sex advice seminar had me cringing!
Considering there are many members it’s always the same people commenting posting etc!
I’ve contacted them a few times as I’m not losing well not much the calories are too high and I don’t always meet the steps, between work family etc it’s not always possible ok well it could be but I don’t really fancy going out for a walk at 5am or 10pm when I get time to myself. Their response they won’t lower the calories but want to support me to meet the 10k steps. Join the lives, step class and Dans drivel… duck sake 6/7 am I’m getting up to go to work, or getting my daughter ready for the school bus and 7.30-8 or the lunch time lives I’m at work.. hold the phone team I’m watching a live… I’d soon be out of a job and not be able to pay the monthly fee.
Wish I had seen the bad reviews before I joined, but I was taken in by him, not really sure why now as I just find him annoying.
 
I’m genuinely so sad he’s backed this family all the way for the sake of ratings. I just don’t understand how he thinks what they said was OK 😔
His obsession with this family is the principle reason I left. I got bored with “Danny boy” being mentioned in the Academy every five minutes when at its peak there were 2k other people who would have also appreciated the focus. Then Carla jumped on board and we were treated to intimate details about their sex lives (I don’t think I can ever un-hear her telling Dan how she once gave herself an orgasm with her foot 🤢). Then there was the Danny Boy walks where we were asked to rock up to Virginia Waters and support this family, once again making them the complete centre of his plan. He didn’t stop to realise other people in his academy (PAYING people in his Academy!) would have found 1,000 steps hard and would have appreciated his support too.
Finally the Carla video threatening Emma was the last straw. There was some small part of me that hoped this would be the turning point and Dan would distance himself and call it out for what it was. But no. Instead I’m sure it was some back room laughing at her having proved her allegiance and being asked to take a back seat for a while…..and now he’s back to posting pictures with them. He just doesn’t get it, does he 😔
Emma - if you’re reading this I think you’re an incredibly articulate and level head woman who didn’t deserve the onslaught you received. I hope the police took your experience seriously as sadly I suspect that’s the only way this awful family might learn some modicum of decency with how to react to criticism.
 
Hmmmm...

How about prove your qualifications?
Or explain why its fine for someone in your organisation to issue death threats?
Maybe try and make us understand why you haven't even addressed said death threats?

I could go on...
 

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surfergirl1 said:
Hi all I joined the 80/20 plan about 10 weeks ago what a complete waste of money, I could have worked out the calories myself as that’s all I’ve got so far for the £25 per month, everything has been a hard sell since trying to get you to pay more for things that were or should be included in the plan information. Why would I pay £55 for ebook recipes? Most expensive books I’ve ever heard of. The last sleep zoom they wanted £17 each for and I’ve not heard one member thank him for his advice during that, I can imagine it was all about melatonin! Which you can’t buy in the UK or get prescribed easily, surely if one person ended up ill or worse from taking something not available here or prescribable he could be in serious trouble.

The latest sex advice seminar had me cringing!
Considering there are many members it’s always the same people commenting posting etc!
I’ve contacted them a few times as I’m not losing well not much the calories are too high and I don’t always meet the steps, between work family etc it’s not always possible ok well it could be but I don’t really fancy going out for a walk at 5am or 10pm when I get time to myself. Their response they won’t lower the calories but want to support me to meet the 10k steps. Join the lives, step class and Dans drivel… duck sake 6/7 am I’m getting up to go to work, or getting my daughter ready for the school bus and 7.30-8 or the lunch time lives I’m at work.. hold the phone team I’m watching a live… I’d soon be out of a job and not be able to pay the monthly fee.
Wish I had seen the bad reviews before I joined, but I was taken in by him, not really sure why now as I just find him annoying.
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My exact experience re steps and calories! Asked repeatedly for a lower allowance of both because I’m time poor. I think the calculation that happens is to put in your height and weight - see what maintenance is and adjust it by a maximum of 100 calories so that they can say everyone is on a different number. It’s a nonsense. Certainly not personalised in a detailed way.

10 weeks ago would of been the end of what was more professional. (It wasn’t professional but it was more than it is now - though that’s not saying much)!

anon19801980 said:
I’m genuinely so sad he’s backed this family all the way for the sake of ratings. I just don’t understand how he thinks what they said was OK 😔
His obsession with this family is the principle reason I left. I got bored with “Danny boy” being mentioned in the Academy every five minutes when at its peak there were 2k other people who would have also appreciated the focus. Then Carla jumped on board and we were treated to intimate details about their sex lives (I don’t think I can ever un-hear her telling Dan how she once gave herself an orgasm with her foot 🤢). Then there was the Danny Boy walks where we were asked to rock up to Virginia Waters and support this family, once again making them the complete centre of his plan. He didn’t stop to realise other people in his academy (PAYING people in his Academy!) would have found 1,000 steps hard and would have appreciated his support too.
Finally the Carla video threatening Emma was the last straw. There was some small part of me that hoped this would be the turning point and Dan would distance himself and call it out for what it was. But no. Instead I’m sure it was some back room laughing at her having proved her allegiance and being asked to take a back seat for a while…..and now he’s back to posting pictures with them. He just doesn’t get it, does he 😔
Emma - if you’re reading this I think you’re an incredibly articulate and level head woman who didn’t deserve the onslaught you received. I hope the police took your experience seriously as sadly I suspect that’s the only way this awful family might learn some modicum of decency with how to react to criticism.
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Thank you!!!! ❤️ The police are still dealing with my and other complaints. Things move slowly
 
anon19801980 said:
I’m genuinely so sad he’s backed this family all the way for the sake of ratings. I just don’t understand how he thinks what they said was OK 😔
His obsession with this family is the principle reason I left. I got bored with “Danny boy” being mentioned in the Academy every five minutes when at its peak there were 2k other people who would have also appreciated the focus. Then Carla jumped on board and we were treated to intimate details about their sex lives (I don’t think I can ever un-hear her telling Dan how she once gave herself an orgasm with her foot 🤢). Then there was the Danny Boy walks where we were asked to rock up to Virginia Waters and support this family, once again making them the complete centre of his plan. He didn’t stop to realise other people in his academy (PAYING people in his Academy!) would have found 1,000 steps hard and would have appreciated his support too.
Finally the Carla video threatening Emma was the last straw. There was some small part of me that hoped this would be the turning point and Dan would distance himself and call it out for what it was. But no. Instead I’m sure it was some back room laughing at her having proved her allegiance and being asked to take a back seat for a while…..and now he’s back to posting pictures with them. He just doesn’t get it, does he 😔
Emma - if you’re reading this I think you’re an incredibly articulate and level head woman who didn’t deserve the onslaught you received. I hope the police took your experience seriously as sadly I suspect that’s the only way this awful family might learn some modicum of decency with how to react to criticism.
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He's stupid putting them at the centre of his business, Carla's video has done more damage than any advantage he got from Phat Dan's following. Not addressing it looks bad, and it trumps anything that he says he has had back in the way of trolls. It's shocking. Whether she was a paid member of staff or not - she has said she is, so he should clarify that and the video explicity says write 8020 in her blood, it makes his company look terrible - to not distance yourself is just moronic and a prime example of how he can't run a business.
 
wermat-ryhnep-0Dusgo said:
This lady is a ‘mini legend’, looks like we’ll be seeing more videos/posts from them in the academy as I reckon this is part of the ‘scheme’. Making people go live😳 the things they will do to please him!!!
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A challenge to force people to embarrass themselves live - in front of strangers 😳 that sounds like abuse to me.

DansBarmyArmy said:
Hmmmm...

How about prove your qualifications?
Or explain why its fine for someone in your organisation to issue death threats?
Maybe try and make us understand why you haven't even addressed said death threats?

I could go on...
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And let’s face it - there’s been so many lies (that are verifiably lies)……. Is anyone really prepared to just believe anything he says ……..
 
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Emj7969 said:
A challenge to force people to embarrass themselves live - in front of strangers 😳 that sounds like abuse to me.


And let’s face it - there’s been so many lies (that are verifiably lies)……. Is anyone really prepared to just believe anything he says ……..
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i agree. It’s actually quite unsettling to see that this is the direction they are going
 
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