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HarryToby said:
I have two diagnosed aspies in my house, another one who has just been referred for an assessment and a fourth who spends every weekend here. Like your loved ones, all of mine are incredibly empathic.

My son can't bare the thought of anybody being upset and cries floods of tears if any of his siblings are being (reasonably) told off. If he thinks he has upset somebody it breaks his little heart and he tells me through sobs "mummy, my heart is bleeding"

He might not be great at understanding other people all of the time, but he certainly cares about them 🙂
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We live in a house of big feelings too and, boy, is it a draining rollercoaster at times! It also means the love and laughter is huge and for that, I'll always be thankful 🥰🥰
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Not even after any time off, just over night!

 
Fee24601 said:
I didn’t take your comment as a diagnosis, more of a general reflection on how FH came across *if* she has any form of neurological disorder, divergence, etc. I’m sorry if I have the impression of judgement, hopefully you understand my intention ❤

I personally think FH should be assessed by a clinician as early as possible, and receive some form of support, but I couldn’t say at this moment exactly how that would work out.
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I don't disagree entirely with some of what you say but this is a lady where there is clear evidence that this is not just behaviour due to neurodivergent thinking. She's mentally unwell.

I'm not qualified to diagnose specific mental health conditions so I won't but from the knowledge/qualifications I do have, my opinion would be a personality disorder of some type.

I'd say this could be both with or without a neurodivergency but I feel that you're on the wrong bandwagon for shouting about people misunderstanding neurodiversity because this isn't the right situation for it. I say, with huge kindness, you don't have to fight the battle for everyone who might appear neurodivergent, for them.
 
Sorry for taking this thread a wee bit off topic, but I appreciate everyone for taking my request on board without any nastiness ❤️ always hard posting off topic about something you care about.

For the record, I thought tonight’s interview was a metaphorical car crash and was seriously misjudged! If FH has as many friends and loved ones as she claimed, they’ve done her no favours if they supported her decision to speak out.
 
Ladeepfriedmarsbar said:
I’m from one of those and thought she barely sounded Scottish.
She also thought the actress playing Martha had a Glaswegian accent, didn’t pick up on that either!
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I’m from one of those too hence being interested to see what she sounded like. Not sure why as I’m rubbish with accents. 😂 I don’t think Martha in BR sounded Glaswegian either, I thought it was more a lilt.
 
TwooTwooTwitTwitTwoo said:
I don't disagree entirely with some of what you say but this is a lady where there is clear evidence that this is not just behaviour due to neurodivergent thinking. She's mentally unwell.

I'm not qualified to diagnose specific mental health conditions so I won't but from the knowledge/qualifications I do have, my opinion would be a personality disorder of some type.

I'd say this could be both with or without a neurodivergency but I feel that you're on the wrong bandwagon for shouting about people misunderstanding neurodiversity because this isn't the right situation for it. I say, with huge kindness, you don't have to fight the battle for everyone who might appear neurodivergent, for them.
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I hope I didn’t “shout” but I apologise to anyone if I did. As for the last sentence, point taken and appreciated in the way it was meant. It’s been a long day ❤️
 
TwooTwooTwitTwitTwoo said:
I don't disagree entirely with some of what you say but this is a lady where there is clear evidence that this is not just behaviour due to neurodivergent thinking. She's mentally unwell.

I'm not qualified to diagnose specific mental health conditions so I won't but from the knowledge/qualifications I do have, my opinion would be a personality disorder of some type.

I'd say this could be both with or without a neurodivergency but I feel that you're on the wrong bandwagon for shouting about people misunderstanding neurodiversity because this isn't the right situation for it. I say, with huge kindness, you don't have to fight the battle for everyone who might appear neurodivergent, for them.
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Coming from another angle, my workplace had a huge training session for educators to try and raise awareness of ASC in general and then specifically in ASC in girls/women. Even after this was over, many neurotypical staff didn't absorb any of it.

We've got a long way to go in terms of everyone's understanding of autism, ADHD, dyspraxia, dyslexia and so on.

@Fee24601 is clearly coming from a place of love and I can understand why. It's damaging and sets us back if people immediately associate "autism" with someone like FH. The association should be, unhinged, delusional, liar etc. Not straight to putting her on the spectrum before anything else.

Love to you both 💖💖
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Fee24601 said:
Sorry for taking this thread a wee bit off topic, but I appreciate everyone for taking my request on board without any nastiness ❤ always hard posting off topic about something you care about.

For the record, I thought tonight’s interview was a metaphorical car crash and was seriously misjudged! If FH has as many friends and loved ones as she claimed, they’ve done her no favours if they supported her decision to speak out.
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Oh it was like when someone chooses to represent themselves in court against everyone's advice 🤣🤣

She can't possibly have a PR assistant (sure she would have mentioned it...) but surely one of her lawyer friends or her lawyer boyfriend would have advised her 😬🙄😂?!
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Fee24601 said:
I hope I didn’t “shout” but I apologise to anyone if I did. As for the last sentence, point taken and appreciated in the way it was meant. It’s been a long day ❤
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No shouting received here, except earlier on when I was shouting "what the actual duck?!" to my telly over Piers and FH talking tit over each other 😂😂😂
 
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twilightgarden said:
I’m from one of those too hence being interested to see what she sounded like. Not sure why as I’m rubbish with accents. 😂 I don’t think Martha in BR sounded Glaswegian either, I thought it was more a lilt.
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I said to my partner, they both had weird accents when we were watching it! He travels a lot and said they both sounded like a mixture of Scottish accents for the telly and Scots who have moved to England... So I guess he was kinda right 😂😂
 
soupmodel said:
Coming from another angle, my workplace had a huge training session for educators to try and raise awareness of ASC in general and then specifically in ASC in girls/women. Even after this was over, many neurotypical didn't absorb any of it. We've got a long way to go in terms of everyone's understanding of autism, ADHD, dyspraxia, dyslexia and so on.

@Fee24601 is clearly coming from a place of love and I can understand why. It's damaging and sets us back if people immediately associate "autism" with someone like FH. The association should be, unhinged, delusional, liar etc. Not straight to putting her on the spectrum before anything else.

Love to you both 💖💖
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Thats why I worded it they way I did. It's a stance I recognise, as in, to be defensive about it because of one's own experiences. It's a hugely valid point of view and I understand it and have personal lived experience of it.

That said, I just don't think there's a one or the other here. She did (in my opinion) present neurodivergent traits in that interview.

However, they are not what's the cause of any difficulty here. Her primary presentation is that she's mentally unwell. Do I think that if any other diagnoses are there, they co-exist and feed into the problem. Yes, I do. However they are not the primary issue and the focus for her should be treating her mental heath conditions, not thinking that an assessment for autism (which she may or may not have already had) is the primary concern and will resolve the situation.
 
Fee24601 said:
I didn’t take your comment as a diagnosis, more of a general reflection on how FH came across *if* she has any form of neurological disorder, divergence, etc. I’m sorry if I have the impression of judgement, hopefully you understand my intention ❤

I personally think FH should be assessed by a clinician as early as possible, and receive some form of support, but I couldn’t say at this moment exactly how that would work out.
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I cant believe she never has been assessed when this behaviour clearly kicked in years ago.
I also believe she had to be medicated for that interview to have been so sound in
Tabitha said:
Wow looks like the supposed nephew went to jail for treating people like tit as well. Couldnt make this up
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Mother cheated out of £80,000 by cowboy builders

Rogue traders Kyle Muir, 26, and Reece Lloyd, 30, left nurse Vicki Mileham, from Belton, near Great Yarmouth, with a deathtrap extension so unsafe that building inspectors told her to tear it down.
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‘Cowboy builder’ jailed for £130k trail of botched and dangerous work

A rogue builder who fleeced customers out of £130,000 for dangerous, shoddy and unfinished work has been jailed.
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They are related surely ta god 😵 and I mean that by the way they look similar rather than the actions 🤭
 
Only just joined this thread so apologise if this has been voiced before. My biggest take from Baby Reindeer was that Gadd viewed himself, Martha, his Dad and Teri as victims that were left increasingly vulnerable after enduring trauma.
Tonight’s interview with FH was disturbing; as a mental health professional I feel she shouldn’t have been allowed to be interviewed in this manner. I have said on many a thread on here that we don’t need to medicalise people- some people can just be crappy people; nothing to do with mental illness. However, l believe FH needs help.
 
That tweet annoucing the interview. She looked like a utter loon. No life in those eyes at all. Staring straight out, with a gormless look on her face, I maintain the women who are saying they feel for her and men too, make me sick, If it was a man doing this, they'd be calling for his head, but her? Oh she's vunerable and all this crap. She's a fecking nutcase!
 
TwooTwooTwitTwitTwoo said:
Thats why I worded it they way I did. It's a stance I recognise, as in, to be defensive about it because of one's own experiences. It's a hugely valid point of view and I understand it and have personal lived experience of it.

That said, I just don't think there's a one or the other here. She did (in my opinion) present neurodivergent traits in that interview.

However, they are not what's the cause of any difficulty here. Her primary presentation is that she's mentally unwell. Do I think that if any other diagnoses are there, they co-exist and feed into the problem. Yes, I do. However they are not the primary issue and the focus for her should be treating her mental heath conditions, not thinking that an assessment for autism (which she may or may not have already had) is the primary concern and will resolve the situation.
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Highlighting just this piece because it's late my ADHD meds are wearing off 😂 (comorbidity bliss)!

As someone who received a diagnosis in adulthood, when trying to explain traits/symptoms/what does it mean (when asked), I've been so commonly hit back with "Oh I do that too, I'm not on the spectrum!" or "Haha, everyone does that, you can't possibly have ADHD/autism". Not all neurotypical people can never truly understand or empathise with neurodivergent experiences. Our traits are things all humans can have at times but it's not the same.

Just to play devil's advocate for both sides cause I'm an AuDHD witch 😂💖

We are all singing from the same hymn sheet, just different verses. Big love to you all ✊🥰
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femmegirly said:
To be fair, I have about 5 email addresses. I thought this was normal. I don’t use them to stalk anyone though.
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KIDDIN' ONNNNN 😂
 
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