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Someone I know this morning has said they’re having the AZ vaccine rather than the Oxford one because the Oxford one has foetuses in it. This is someone who is a successful business owner and lives in Geneva where they spend 300k a year giving children the absolute best private education he can buy...
A very quick Google tells you that foetal tissue is used in the production of loads of vaccines including many we have routinely taken! And they’re not actually using the cells in the vaccine itself just in the development of them because a) better human cells than an animals and b) foetal cells last longer. If you’re ethically not OK with it then I guess that’s on you but to genuinely believe you’re being injected with part of a dead foetus just baffles me (we’re needing to produce how many hundreds of millions of doses worldwide??). More so with this person who clearly values education for their children to the tune of so much money but can’t bring themselves to do a quick Google search!
My ex worked at a pharmaceutical company and they grew cell cultures and aborted fetuses were involved in the process somehow . The company used to get threats, almost of terrorism I suppose even though it was legit and apparently consent to donate for this purpose is obtained as part of the abortion process.
 
Crikey what’s that? Not heard of it

Not just Instagram, the same thing as everyone's been saying with cameras and microphones being left on. Ther eye movement tracker has been used for market research for ages now. This is just the first thing that came up with a quick Google

 
My ex worked at a pharmaceutical company and they grew cell cultures and aborted fetuses were involved in the process somehow . The company used to get threats, almost of terrorism I suppose even though it was legit and apparently consent to donate for this purpose is obtained as part of the abortion process.
That does sound quite chilling but all above board I suppose and that’s where people have got ‘vaccines contain fetus’ from. Which does sound crazy but when you look beyond the initial huh? It makes sense to use what is in theory human cells rather than animals.
 
That does sound quite chilling but all above board I suppose and that’s where people have got ‘vaccines contain fetus’ from. Which does sound crazy but when you look beyond the initial huh? It makes sense to use what is in theory human cells rather than animals.
Yes they make it sound like there are actual aborted fetal cells in the vaccine whereas instead it's cells developed from fetal cells. We need human cells to grow human viruses on. There is a big difference.
 
My ex worked at a pharmaceutical company and they grew cell cultures and aborted fetuses were involved in the process somehow . The company used to get threats, almost of terrorism I suppose even though it was legit and apparently consent to donate for this purpose is obtained as part of the abortion process.
This is an area I find really tricky. Admittedly I don’t know a huge amount about it and wonder if it’s best I don’t but I think it’s important consent is obtained. I’m not sure what my view on it is but I’m also aware that the majority of where we are with medicine is due to a lot of awful practices going back a long time ago such as body snatching
Not just Instagram, the same thing as everyone's been saying with cameras and microphones being left on. Ther eye movement tracker has been used for market research for ages now. This is just the first thing that came up with a quick Google

I shall be changing some of my settings this afternoon then! I actually do keep my camera covered, I’ve done it for years. No real conspiracy I just have a creepy friend who works in I.T who I’ve always thought if he could access my camera he would 😄
 
I’m not going to lie, I love reading about conspiracy theories and falling down the rabbit holes and learning more about why people believe them.
I think at this moment in time, people are more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories because of just how bad the world feels right now. For instance with COVID nay sayers, it’s much easier to deny the existence and say it’s the great reset rather than actually accept we’re in a pandemic. But on top of that, we have access to more and more information and the ability to hear about past events through the internet and things like Netflix which makes it much easier to see the bad in the powers that be.
It’s the critical thinking part that just feels completely missing in a lot of the FB posts. Like not only not realising that a vaccine cannot contain a microchip or that if it it did contain some kind of monitoring device Bill probably wouldn’t be interested in your day to day life anyway but then top of that not recognising that they carry a phone around everywhere that does listen to you and is most likely tracking your location from some kind of app/ data usage.
A vaccine syringe is literally too small to contain a chip!!!!!


Well yea actually thinking about it...were mobile phones/smart phones ever part of a conspiracy? They bloody should have been! Was anyone screaming about Facebook and Apple being a facade for monitoring and tracking our every move? Cos that would actually make more sense. I’d be more inclined to believe that than Bill Gates injecting microchips into us 🤷🏻‍♀️
Seriously, these apps literally track everything, esp Apple, Google and Facebook(/Instagram/WhatsApp), but are they up in arms about that? Do they go to Sil Valley to protest??
No, of course not. They rather take up a cause about a fantasy non-existing threat.

They go on and on about dystopian novels and how the chipping is coming true and CCTV and all that and fail to realize that authors went by their times' standards in tech and invented things and completely ignore the smartphone in their pockets and shitbook et al. harvesting all the info about them they want, incl the NSA (remember that little scandal? They even spied on and listened in on governments!! super illegal and cause for war had it been anyone else, not that I want any war over anything). Boggles the mind.


Priceless!!!!! 😂



That does sound quite chilling but all above board I suppose and that’s where people have got ‘vaccines contain fetus’ from. Which does sound crazy but when you look beyond the initial huh? It makes sense to use what is in theory human cells rather than animals.
Yeah, I think that's one of the many cases where some CTs are based on a kernel of truth, only it's often something that was illegally done in the past or being twisted to fit their narrative.
This likely is where the bit in the consent form that says "give/release tissue for research purposes" falls into and is entirely twisted for the CT narrative.


Not just Instagram, the same thing as everyone's been saying with cameras and microphones being left on. Ther eye movement tracker has been used for market research for ages now. This is just the first thing that came up with a quick Google

This!!!!
 
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This is an area I find really tricky. Admittedly I don’t know a huge amount about it and wonder if it’s best I don’t but I think it’s important consent is obtained. I’m not sure what my view on it is but I’m also aware that the majority of where we are with medicine is due to a lot of awful practices going back a long time ago such as body snatching

I shall be changing some of my settings this afternoon then! I actually do keep my camera covered, I’ve done it for years. No real conspiracy I just have a creepy friend who works in I.T who I’ve always thought if he could access my camera he would 😄
Medical ethics were appalling and a lot of modern practices come from some very dark places. There has been a lot of work around renaming certain instruments that were named after the obstetricians that developed them usually on black women as it was felt that they did not feel pain as much 😡 In ragrds to human cells read up about HeLa cells and the ethics of that. I'm going off topic but it's an area I have a lot of interest in.
 
She, and her scumbag friends deserve to rot in jail.....

It is understood that Leblique was subject to a barrage of abuse that took a toll on his mental health after he was featured in a video live-streamed to thousands of people by Gemma O’Doherty, a leading figure in Ireland’s anti-mask and anti-lockdown movement who claims COVID is a "hoax."

The incident occurred in April during Ireland's first lockdown when people were ordered to stay at homeand could only travel up to 2km outside the home to exercise. O'Doherty, protesting the lockdown measures, confronted Leblique and his partner in the video that spread across social media.

In the live-stream video, O'Doherty repeatedly reads out the gardai's badge numbers and says that "a report will be made to GSOC [Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission, an independent statutory body]."

She goes on to label the gardai as "tyrants" and tells them "we are your masters."

"Stop intimidating the people of Ireland," O'Doherty says, adding, "the Irish people have had enough of it."

"You don't speak for the Irish people," Leblique replies.

"Really? We'll see about that," O'Doherty says. She continues, "Absolute scum of the earth these people, look at them."

DublinLive reports that while Leblique was subject to online harassment after the incident, he also received messages of support, which he took the time to personally respond to.
 
Yeah, I think that's one of the many cases where some CT are based on a kernel of truth, only it's often something that was illegally done in the past or being twisted to fit their narrative.
This likely is where the bit in the consent form that says "give/release tissue for research purposes" falls into and is entirely twisted for the CT narrative.

I think it's a case of people know something scientific happens with aborted fetuses , but don't understand what and then it becomes like Chinese whispers , even with people who don't believe there's a conspiracy. I don't know exactly what happens myself so I hope I haven't contributed to the misunderstanding.

I agree , it is probably in the small print but I'm not sure everyone will understand what they are consenting to .
 
This is why I think some of them just love the drama of it all. They completely ignore child abuse committed by everyday people and hyper focus on the rich and famous.

Pretty sure (haven’t checked) the stats say that if a child is abused it’s most likely to be at the hands of someone they know. It is happening right under our noses but do the ct’s give a tit? No not really because it doesn’t fit their narrative that the rich and famous are out to get us all.

Remember the hoo-har over 5g? They were setting towers on fire and abusing staff working on the towers. Don’t see much getting posted about that nowadays. They go to all these lengths and then as soon as the next big conspiracy rolls around they forget all about it.
Wonder what the idiots made of the genuine cases of the Asian grooming gangs that were routinely and systematically abusing vulnerable white girls in various towns around the UK? Actual proven abuse in which the perpetrators were eventually caught and jailed. Probably not even on their crackpot radar.
 
Wonder what the idiots made of the genuine cases of the Asian grooming gangs that were routinely and systematically abusing vulnerable white girls in various towns around the UK? Actual proven abuse in which the perpetrators were eventually caught and jailed. Probably not even on their crackpot radar.

Seems they're only interested in 'celebrity' cases, suspecting everyone who doesn't support Trump! Even though he is one of the greatest abusers of women, poor people, non-white people, employees, investors, he's destroyed so many lives. 😣
 
She, and her scumbag friends deserve to rot in jail.....

It is understood that Leblique was subject to a barrage of abuse that took a toll on his mental health after he was featured in a video live-streamed to thousands of people by Gemma O’Doherty, a leading figure in Ireland’s anti-mask and anti-lockdown movement who claims COVID is a "hoax."

The incident occurred in April during Ireland's first lockdown when people were ordered to stay at homeand could only travel up to 2km outside the home to exercise. O'Doherty, protesting the lockdown measures, confronted Leblique and his partner in the video that spread across social media.

In the live-stream video, O'Doherty repeatedly reads out the gardai's badge numbers and says that "a report will be made to GSOC [Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission, an independent statutory body]."

She goes on to label the gardai as "tyrants" and tells them "we are your masters."

"Stop intimidating the people of Ireland," O'Doherty says, adding, "the Irish people have had enough of it."

"You don't speak for the Irish people," Leblique replies.

"Really? We'll see about that," O'Doherty says. She continues, "Absolute scum of the earth these people, look at them."

DublinLive reports that while Leblique was subject to online harassment after the incident, he also received messages of support, which he took the time to personally respond to.
I hope this woman is held to account for her actions, what a prize c**t. 🤬🤬🤬
 
Wonder what the idiots made of the genuine cases of the Asian grooming gangs that were routinely and systematically abusing vulnerable white girls in various towns around the UK? Actual proven abuse in which the perpetrators were eventually caught and jailed. Probably not even on their crackpot radar.

100% agree! This is what drives me insane - these people can invest all this time, energy and anger into pursuing these crackpot theories yet there are so many cover-ups and miscarriages of justice that they could get behind.

I've always hugely admired investigative journalists and campaigners who work tirelessly to expose truths and wrongdoings in order to get justice, helping those wrongly convicted of crimes, exposing flaws in policing and judicial processes, uncovering atrocities like paedophile gangs, helping to find missing people and what may have happened to them etc, etc.

Surely getting behind these sorts of projects would be a far more productive and valuable use of their "enquiring minds" than pedalling the nonsensical mumbo-jumbo about Bill Gates, Tom Hanks, Hilary Clinton, Katy Perry, Oprah, Ellen DeGeneres, Chrissy Teigan and God knows who else... 🙄
 
the widespread accusation that the uk government have handled covid so badly because they and their pals are making money out of it somehow really pisses me off. No - the government are just diabolical at their job, that’s why it’s been handled so badly, stop making excuses for them
 
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