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Columbo said:
I don't believe every conspiracy theory I hear but equally I don't believe everything the government or the media tells me either.
Maybe it's the Irish in me but history has made me sceptical and today is an important today in Irish history. Today the Taoiseach (Irish PM) apologised for the appalling Mother and Baby homes which claimed the lives of over 9000 children right up until as recently as 1998. Hundreds of these babies were literally flushed down the toilet and their bodies found in a septic tank. Hundreds of others sold to people in the UK, facilitated and covered up by Church, Government and State. No longer a conspiracy theory but a fact.

During the troubles there was collusion between the British Army, the police and British intelligence resulting in the murder of many civilians in Northern Ireland, denied at every turn, also now proven facts.

The state HAS covered up mass murder, its even facilitied it and it's things like this that make me sceptical that what we're told is always true, that what's reported is always fact.
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I've never heard British involvement with the police and local paramilitaries in N.Ireland referred to as a conspiracy theory. I always thought there was never any doubt in that.

Reading some of the cover ups around the Mother and baby homes, the Magdalen Asylums etc is absolutely horrific I agree and things like that are likely to make anyone skeptical of the powers that be. It's great that you are open minded to consider all sides.
 
birdiefly246 said:
I agree with you. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but there are things that I believe or am skeptical about, for example, Epstein's death and I do think cover ups happen with the government, rich and famous etc and sometimes when I look at the circumstances around certain terror attacks, I think ok that seems a bit suspicious.

It's difficult one cause I often think "do these people not have any common sense?" but by the same token, everyone rationalises things differently. Just like someone posted above, I think you (not you personally!) have to analyse why someone would be lying about that (like flat earth... why?!) and what they'd gain from it. Also a lot of them don't sound real! Like the royal family being lizards! That sounds like a kids book!
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I agree with this 100% i was trying to think of how to word things but i think you summed it up perfectly

I read the conspiracy threads, they seem in general nice people. I do believe some theories hold weight, others less so. I like to think I'm open minded.

And i hate HATE being thought of as a sheep or whatever for following the covid guidelines.
Maybe there is a bigger picture, maybe there isn't. What there definitely IS is deaths, happening daily from a contagious worldwide disease. I'm following guidelines to save the NHS, to save lives not because I'm a naive idiot who 'can't see the government are trying to control us' 🙄🙄🙄
 
Columbo said:
Reading with interest. Hands up, I'm on the conspiracy theory thread (don't shoot me 🙈) and there's actually some lovely people on it but I wouldn't say I'm a fully fledged conspiracy theorist.

I don't believe every conspiracy theory I hear but equally I don't believe everything the government or the media tells me either.
Maybe it's the Irish in me but history has made me sceptical and today is an important today in Irish history. Today the Taoiseach (Irish PM) apologised for the appalling Mother and Baby homes which claimed the lives of over 9000 children right up until as recently as 1998. Hundreds of these babies were literally flushed down the toilet and their bodies found in a septic tank. Hundreds of others sold to people in the UK, facilitated and covered up by Church, Government and State. No longer a conspiracy theory but a fact.

During the troubles there was collusion between the British Army, the police and British intelligence resulting in the murder of many civilians in Northern Ireland, denied at every turn, also now proven facts.

The state HAS covered up mass murder, its even facilitied it and it's things like this that make me sceptical that what we're told is always true, that what's reported is always fact.

I guess I'm open minded more than a CT. I've never called anyone a sheep lol. Some of the stuff on the CT thread terrifies me so rather than wanting to prove the CTs right, I'd love it if they were wrong. This world is so corrupt I wouldn't be surprised if there's an element of truth to some of it. Just my opinion. I fully respect what other people believe and would never tell anyone they're wrong and I'm right. I also think it's a frightening time and people are trying to make sense of things and perhaps channelling their fear and anger in the wrong way sometimes.

Sorry for rambling, I'll end by saying aliens definitely exist 🤣🤣🤣
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I absolutely agree that there have been, throughout history, large-scale cover-ups and sadly there inevitably always will be.
We hear so many historical cases of child sex abuse covered up over decades within the church, schools, children's homes etc, we learn so many times when the police have set someone up or hidden evidence to hide their incompetence. There is so much corruption within Governments and all positions of power are open to abuse.

It is so important that we aren't frightened to challenge these things and we shouldn't necessarily just believe everything we're told but in the case of these crazy "plandemic" theories where people are inciting others to refuse to wear masks, not adhere to lockdown and not have the vaccine, this oversteps the line into dangerous territory.

This situation DOES seem surreal and makes you feel there's something "not right" about it-we've never lived through anything like it so it's unsurprising people feel uneasy.
But to me the surprise is that something of this scale hasn't happened sooner.

With an ever-expanding population, with international travel being so accessible and the harm we are doing trying to mess with nature this was surely inevitable?

Pandemics are not a new phenomena, we have experienced them throughout history, it is just that this is the 21st century and it all feels so alien to us.

As humans we constantly want explanations for everything and I think for many people it is easier to believe it's a man-made conspiracy and part of a bigger plan rather than nature fighting back.

Oohthedrama said:
I find the ones who spread it, especially covid deniers are rarely scared, they take pleasure in speaking out and encouraging others to believe what they’re saying/start ignoring restrictions.
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They're not scared but they then feed on the fears of others. Like those who are on the fence and nervous about having the vaccine, they like to scare the tit out of them so they will join their "cult".
 
Long time lurker, first time poster!

I love a good conspiracy theory, been watching Richard D Hall for years. If half of what he claims about the murders of Jo Cox and Jill Dando are true then there is some crazy people in charge behind the scenes.
However, here's my favourite wacky conspiracy theory that I read who knows where.

Cliff Richard had Cilla Black killed to keep his secrets safe, apparently she was an MI6 agent!

Couldn't stop laughing at that one, who comes up with it?
 
Meangirl815 said:
I agree with this 100% i was trying to think of how to word things but i think you summed it up perfectly

I read the conspiracy threads, they seem in general nice people. I do believe some theories hold weight, others less so. I like to think I'm open minded.

And i hate HATE being thought of as a sheep or whatever for following the covid guidelines.
Maybe there is a bigger picture, maybe there isn't. What there definitely IS is deaths, happening daily from a contagious worldwide disease. I'm following guidelines to save the NHS, to save lives not because I'm a naive idiot who 'can't see the government are trying to control us' 🙄🙄🙄
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Exactly! I don't mind people believing the pandemic was started on purpose or whatever in china. Or it was leaked from a lab. Those ones are relatively harmless. I don't believe it but it's not far fetched either. I don't understand the western governments being involved personally cause I can't see why a government would want to ruin their own economy but I can see why people think it when you think that supermarkets and online (amazon etc) have done well from it, I personally think they just took advantage of a bad situation but ok I can see the point.

The issue for me is like you've said, the people who don't think it exists which quite frankly, please explain to me the millions of deaths worldwide if it doesn't exist, or that it's 5g or that bill gates is microchipping us. The disease exists and how or why doesn't actually matter. It exists. People are dying. People are suffering. Even if the government is trying to control us, people are still dying so put your bleeping mask on (unless exempt obvs), stay away from people. It's like they're so adamant that they're right and that everyone else is a sheep that they can't see what's going on in front of their faces.
 
It's the whole hospitals are empty one that gives me the rage. Ask those working in the acute areas and they will all say how busy it is and how much we are struggling with staff shortages etc. None of this "my neighbours dogs brothers owner watched casualty twice and tells me how empty the hospitals are". Videos of empty corridors as proof. Gives me the rage.
 
Platypusfattypus said:
It's the whole hospitals are empty one that gives me the rage. Ask those working in the acute areas and they will all say how busy it is and how much we are struggling with staff shortages etc. None of this "my neighbours dogs brothers owner watched casualty twice and tells me how empty the hospitals are". Videos of empty corridors as proof. Gives me the rage.
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YES! when people go to a&e and they're like "well it was dead" and I think can you just engage your 2 brain cells for 2 minutes and think about why it could be quiet in a&e?
 
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Platypusfattypus said:
It's the whole hospitals are empty one that gives me the rage. Ask those working in the acute areas and they will all say how busy it is and how much we are struggling with staff shortages etc. None of this "my neighbours dogs brothers owner watched casualty twice and tells me how empty the hospitals are". Videos of empty corridors as proof. Gives me the rage.
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Or “all the nurses are standing around doing TikToks”.
 
mcfeez said:
I've never heard British involvement with the police and local paramilitaries in N.Ireland referred to as a conspiracy theory. I always thought there was never any doubt in that.

Reading some of the cover ups around the Mother and baby homes, the Magdalen Asylums etc is absolutely horrific I agree and things like that are likely to make anyone skeptical of the powers that be. It's great that you are open minded to consider all sides.
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Maybe conspiracy theory isn't the perfect description but for one example Bloody Sunday happened in 1972 with the news reporting that the people killed, most of them teenagers, were armed and opened fire. It took until 2010 for the Saville Report to clear their names and David Cameron to apologise on behalf of the Government. It was 2012 before the acknowledgement that "agents of the state" colluded in the murder of Pat Finnucane. Suppose what I meant was that what we're told to believe isn't always the reality and we have been fed lies in the past although to what end isn't always clear.
Also gutted to hear about the vouchers. My handbag will have to wait 😭🤣
 
SavvyBee said:
Or “all the nurses are standing around doing TikToks”.
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Ah yes the old tik tok thing. Those little videos that are a few minutes long if that and were done during shift changes. Though I did read that they were apparently a form of message from the nurses that it's all fake but they can't speak out for fear of being sacked/silenced/drained of blood by lady gaga and Tom Hanks
 
Platypusfattypus said:
Ah yes the old tik tok thing. Those little videos that are a few minutes long if that and were done during shift changes. Though I did read that they were apparently a form of message from the nurses that it's all fake but they can't speak out for fear of being sacked/silenced/drained of blood by lady gaga and Tom Hanks
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Tom Hanks does post some rather weird stuff to his insta though tbf 🙈😂
 
Update on my mother after a call today. She’s now keeping weapons by the door and looking into getting window shutters because they will be coming out soon to vaccinate us all.
It’s disturbing and also at the same time laughable. Meanwhile back in the real world, my neighbour who is elderly and vulnerable is still waiting to receive her vaccination.

Some more things have happened lately with a friend of hers becoming ill, that’s apparently linked to the normal flu vaccine she claims.
My mum must be full on fight mode all the time, I don’t know how she honestly hasn’t had a heart attack with the daily stress that these theories are giving her.
 
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