Zoella De Vile - Cordially Invites Pedos and Torys to Casa De Zalfe

[thenomad]

^ I feel like a bit of a cow saying this, especially as I don't know the woman, but I can see Amanda looking after the kid more than Tracy (even if Zoe's mum lived nearby). I just get the impression she's quite self-absorbed and would be one of these grandparents that don't want to be that involved (they do exist). I'm not judging, each to their own and all that. Sorry for the OT.

No worries, I didn't think it was OT at all. I was thinking of adding Amanda/Nick but that's if Zoe is still with Alfie by then (at the rate their relationship is going lol). Who knows they might surprise us and have a bandaid baby together in hope it will be enough to save their relationship/dying career. I don't have a good sense of who Tracy is as we don't see her too often in the vlogs but it's possible she might not be as involved. Zoe and her relationship with her mother seems complicated and it might be why she clings onto the Deyes family and is so obsessed with the nuclear family model.

 

[nemidiso]

Zoe and her relationship with her mother seems complicated and it might be why she clings onto the Deyes family and is so obsessed with the nuclear family model.

That's something I wondered about. how is her relationship to her parents? so they divorced when she was something like 17 (right?) and after that she lived with her father an Joe. Does anyone know why? (Not that it's strange to prefer living with your father but someone on here once mentioned something like her mother cheated or something? maybe that's the reason?)
Another thing I find quite odd: Zoe visits her parents like once A YEAR. her father just for christmas for ONE day and sometimes her mother visits her in her mansion. I'm not from the UK so don't know if they are just living very far away and that's the reason but even then: I would love to see my parents more often than that. More than ever when I'm painting myself as someone who LOVES spending time with family - when in reality all she does is hanging around with Mark being silly or going out with Amanda, Nick, Poppy and Sean.

 

[Yel]

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“It was an instagram photo dream” WHYYYY WHY IS SHE SO BASIC!

I feel so sorry for her, can never appreciated anything. Just has to see it as an Instagram. She really doesn't represent millennials, I don't know anyone thats as vapid as her.

The NYC trip was painful, spent ages taking about the Instagram's they would get as they don't even see them as photos. Then we had all the fake laughing and pretending to have the time of our lives photos, while looking dead in the eyes.

 

[Tulips]

@nemediso: I got the impression from the other site that Zoe's mum cheated and that's why she and Joe decided to live with their dad but it's all speculation, of course. I think they were in their mid-late teens when their parents split up and I'm guessing it hit Zoe hard, having the nuclear family unit break down. I don't know if you watched the old home movies she uploaded a while back but they seemed like a close, fun sort of family and the break-up must have shattered her world (armchair psychoanalyst here)... Maybe she hasn't fully forgiven her mum (if all this is true) and that's why she's clinging onto the Deyes family, as if trying to replicate what she had before? I'm spending far too much time thinking about this lol.

 

[Helloally]

Sorry OT but just found a little gem in her new vlog. She and the other girl separate from the guys and they find each other at 7:58

Zoe: did you miss us?
Other dude: yeah actually was getting a bit worried
Frog: So happy
Zoe: see that’s why he is your husband and mine is still my boyfriend *insert fake uncomfortable laugh*

Sooo awkward! Can’t she just propose if she wants to get married so bad? Also I feel like she wants a wedding, the attention, the Instagram photos but hasn’t given a real thought to was marriage entails. For starters.. discuss important things like marriage and children.

 

[Tulips]

^ Zoe probably thinks it'll be risky proposing and Alfie saying no- that would be really awkward for them both. I can't see her leaving either, even if Alfie rejected her proposal. think she just wants to continue burying her head in the sand, hoping he will propose 'one day'.

 

[thenomad]

Sorry OT but just found a little gem in her new vlog. She and the other girl separate from the guys and they find each other at 7:58

Zoe: did you miss us?
Other dude: yeah actually was getting a bit worried
Frog: So happy
Zoe: see that’s why he is your husband and mine is still my boyfriend *insert fake uncomfortable laugh*

Sooo awkward! Can’t she just propose if she wants to get married so bad? Also I feel like she wants a wedding, the attention, the Instagram photos but hasn’t given a real thought to was marriage entails. For starters.. discuss important things like marriage and children.

She laughs about it but you know deep down it only makes her more resentful that this is not even on Alfie's radar. She will never propose because she wants the traditional proposal where the man asks the woman. She wants to make it seem like Alfie came onto that conclusion on his own. As if that would make it more romantic or whatever.

I really wish they would do that baby video that Alfie promised 700 yrs ago with those dolls because I would love to see how they would function with dolls who cry and need constant attention thrown in the mix of their 'mad busy' schedules. To see if Zoe still really wants kids with her man-child boyfriend.

 

[Burritobowl]

That's something I wondered about. how is her relationship to her parents? so they divorced when she was something like 17 (right?) and after that she lived with her father an Joe. Does anyone know why? (Not that it's strange to prefer living with your father but someone on here once mentioned something like her mother cheated or something? maybe that's the reason?)
Another thing I find quite odd: Zoe visits her parents like once A YEAR. her father just for christmas for ONE day and sometimes her mother visits her in her mansion. I'm not from the UK so don't know if they are just living very far away and that's the reason but even then: I would love to see my parents more often than that. More than ever when I'm painting myself as someone who LOVES spending time with family - when in reality all she does is hanging around with Mark being silly or going out with Amanda, Nick, Poppy and Sean.

There is something pretty weird about that. Maybe it´s her axiety (?), maybe when she vists her parents it goes up because she is reminded of unhappy or painful moments. Maybe her family is or was kind of toxic, it happens, a toxic family does not need to be openly abusive, (like having an alcoholic parent or something like that), sometimes parents can torment children without knowing for years and years, or knowing but not caring while looking like a completley normal and happy family. Also, she is very very close to Joe -which is a good thing because he doesn´t treat her as a princess- and that kind of closenes between sibilings -sometimes- can be the result of sibilings growing up under some time of abuse or pressure .
Sometimes, those kind of things can brake a family, even when time passes and everything is spoken it is impossible to forgive completley, so maybe visiting her parents once or twice a year is what is better for her and for them in order to keep the family "conflict free".

 

[Burritobowl]

That's something I wondered about. how is her relationship to her parents? so they divorced when she was something like 17 (right?) and after that she lived with her father an Joe. Does anyone know why? (Not that it's strange to prefer living with your father but someone on here once mentioned something like her mother cheated or something? maybe that's the reason?)
Another thing I find quite odd: Zoe visits her parents like once A YEAR. her father just for christmas for ONE day and sometimes her mother visits her in her mansion. I'm not from the UK so don't know if they are just living very far away and that's the reason but even then: I would love to see my parents more often than that. More than ever when I'm painting myself as someone who LOVES spending time with family - when in reality all she does is hanging around with Mark being silly or going out with Amanda, Nick, Poppy and Sean.

There is something pretty weird about that. Maybe it´s her axiety (?), maybe when she vists her parents it goes up because she is reminded of unhappy or painful moments. Maybe her family is or was kind of toxic, it happens, a toxic family does not need to be openly abusive, (like having an alcoholic parent or something like that), sometimes parents can torment children without knowing for years and years, or knowing but not caring while looking like a completley normal and happy family. Also, she is very very close to Joe -which is a good thing because he doesn´t treat her as a princess- and that kind of closenes between sibilings -sometimes- can be the result of sibilings growing up under some time of abuse or pressure .
Sometimes, those kind of things can brake a family, even when time passes and everything is spoken it is impossible to forgive completley, so maybe visiting her parents once or twice a year is what is better for her and for them in order to keep the family "conflict free".

 

[Oohthedrama]

There is something pretty weird about that. Maybe it´s her axiety (?), maybe when she vists her parents it goes up because she is reminded of unhappy or painful moments. Maybe her family is or was kind of toxic, it happens, a toxic family does not need to be openly abusive, (like having an alcoholic parent or something like that), sometimes parents can torment children without knowing for years and years, or knowing but not caring while looking like a completley normal and happy family. Also, she is very very close to Joe -which is a good thing because he doesn´t treat her as a princess- and that kind of closenes between sibilings -sometimes- can be the result of sibilings growing up under some time of abuse or pressure .
Sometimes, those kind of things can brake a family, even when time passes and everything is spoken it is impossible to forgive completley, so maybe visiting her parents once or twice a year is what is better for her and for them in order to keep the family "conflict free".

Ooh see I get a completely different vibe, Joe and Zoe aren’t close, they’re siblings and obviously love each other but they aren’t close, they don’t talk, Joe visits his dad and grandparents a lot and spends his time with the London crew, if you watch him on the true Geordie pod cast last year it’s so clear the image she portrays for “sugg life” sales is just an image. It fits her brand. But he wasn’t in touch with her after the calendar scam, and didn’t seem to want to comment on her even to defend her. I think Zoe has a lot of bitterness towards her family and to be blunt her grandparents don’t fit her brand right now, if you see them on joes vlogs they’re real country folk.

Alfie said he definitely will not be vlogging his kids, he was critical of those who do including the SJ’s
He wants his kids before he’s married so they can take part in the wedding like himself and poppy did at his parents wedding.

So different from Zoe’s plans,
so who bends for the other ?

 

[KawaiiAF]

She basically has proposed to him by constantly asking him about it. Many men have no idea what their girlfriends want out of a relationship, when it comes to fiance's it's a bit different but they are just gf and bf and he's under NO illusions how badly she wants marriage and kids. He keeps telling her No, and his wishy-washy reasons why.

To put it into perspective, one of my neighbours is 21 years old, is married to the love of his life, they have a child and he is a father figure to her other child by her ex who passed away. He is also in the armed forces. He would laugh at Alfie for the weak reasons he gives for not wanting to get married. It's easy for them, they have no kids and they're rich as butter.

alfie won't marry her as he doesn't love her and he's using her for the lifestyle. She puts up with it as she has low self esteem when it comes to boyfriends and doesn't want the embarrassment of another split after the last one.

She also handed it all to him on a silver platter. He got to live in her house, in her bed, eat her food, share her bath, why would he marry her, he already gets to live with her as her husband! Lol she's a fool. She thinks her constant sniping will change his mind. Not in a million years

 

[poppyflower]

@nemediso: I got the impression from the other site that Zoe's mum cheated and that's why she and Joe decided to live with their dad but it's all speculation, of course. I think they were in their mid-late teens when their parents split up and I'm guessing it hit Zoe hard, having the nuclear family unit break down. I don't know if you watched the old home movies she uploaded a while back but they seemed like a close, fun sort of family and the break-up must have shattered her world (armchair psychoanalyst here)... Maybe she hasn't fully forgiven her mum (if all this is true) and that's why she's clinging onto the Deyes family, as if trying to replicate what she had before? I'm spending far too much time thinking about this lol.

I always though it may be because of Their mom being too busy, she has a wealthy lifestyle, a big beautiful house in the country with big land. I only assume tracy has a good career, she looks like a business women. Their Dad seems like your typical builder or manual worker, so probably more available for Zoe and Joe to be around, so they probably preferred being with their dad. that's my thought anyway.

 

[Horatio]

I don’t know, I don’t think that’s much of an excuse for not being available to your children. Plus their dad is clearly relatively wealthy too, he has had a few nice houses. But i think what people on here generally pick up on is the tension between them. Though their mum comes across as perfectly nice, the atmosphere seems so much more relaxed with their dad. But maybe that’s just his personality he is clearly very easy going.

 

[boredjess]

My guess is I think her dad doesn't want to be on camera, nothing wrong with that. I don't watch Joe but he's vlogged about gifting their dad a car right? I've not seen them vlogged about gifting big stuff to their mum.

Any way, I can't say anything much about Sugg's parents since I don't see much about them, but I do agree Zeella's probably longed for that close family unit thing because she moved to Brighton for A. Another thing she did for the bf, actually what has Alfie done for her?

A's fam is in Brighton, and I agree it's so loopsided when she seems to spend time only with his family. No family trip either, I mean the Sugg can always go on a with mum/dad trip.
I guess maybe the broken family affected her, but it's not a good reason why she is such a lazy bum, she could have turned into this amazing Ytber with that subs and privilege but she failed.

 

[More garlic]

Who did Zoe's mum have an affair with? Or was it multiple guys? Since joe has been on strictly there's been lots of comments on the daily mail about it.

 

[doodles2018]

I find it odd that her mum is that wealthy now. Years and years ago when Zoe had her blog and no YouTube her mum had her own shop in Bath. It was a dress exchange where she'd buy people's old designer clothes off them and sell them on. Zoe did a blog post about working in there once.

I worked in retail in the city at the time in a high end shop and loads of my customers sold stuff there but they never had much nice to say about it. One lady told me they were incredibly stuck up in there which she didn't appreciate considering they were buying her second hand clothes.

 

[Tulips]

I recall watching a vlog a while ago where Zoe and Alfie went back to the village she grew up in and went into a bakery where she said her mum used to work...sounds like Tracy's come a long since then lol. I have wondered how her small online jewellery business would do so well, maybe having Zoe as a daughter helped a bit I didn't know she had that designer exchange shop. I do think she looks well for someone with two 'grown-up' children lol, fair play to her.

 

[GossWhore]

Zoe was definitely in her peak 5 years ago (2013) -- her main channel videos got 24m, 19m, 16m, 14, 12m was the lowest

Today in 2018 she can barely scrap 1.5million

LAWD

 

[GossWhore]

Alfie is so bleeping rude.. I'm dead.

His new vlog he had to bake for GBBO.

Did he use his gf new book? Nope. Lol

It was in shot! And he picked....Tanyas [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

 

[StephenTJackson]

Alfie is so bleeping rude.. I'm dead.

His new vlog he had to bake for GBBO.

Did he use his gf new book? Nope. Lol

It was in shot! And he picked....Tanyas [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Alfie is such a terrible boyfriend, at least when Jim does his baking videos he religiously uses Tanya’s book - much to my annoyance. Alfie not using Zoe’s book is just asking for drama and questions about their relationship. Just so he can get engagement up before inevitably tweeting they haven’t broke up yet again. Zalfie are so toxic.