Zoe Sugg #67 Boring and beige, will never be a Deyes.

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Poor Poppy! I can't even imagine what that was like, and it must have been even harder when Zoe and Alfie announced they were pregnant again. To be around them must have so incredibly difficult, but they seem on the outside to have handled it so well. I can only imagine how heartbreaking it must have been for them thinking they might need to try IVF again before she fell pregnant.
 
I've said it for years but now it's confirmed, Zoe is going to HATE that it won't just be expected that everyone will sleep at hers on Christmas Eve and everyone goes to theirs for Christmas Day. Especially if Poppy's baby's birthday is around Christmas too, you'd think they'll want to make their own memories/traditions.
Yes and if Poppy wants to have the babie's first Christmas at home Amanda and Nick might want to spend Christmas with their new grandchild.
 
If just goes to show you never really know what’s going on behind closed doors. Really happy for Poppy and Sean, they’ll be lovely parents I think. You can see how they interact with O and N, far more natural than Zoe. I think she has behaved appallingly knowing what we know now, almost rubbing Poppy’s nose in it. Zoe is going to have to suck it up if Alfie’s parents want to spend more time with Poppy and the new baby. Zoe has her own mum, Poppy will need hers more at the start.
 
Didn't Zoe disappear for at least three months when she was first pregnant with Novie because of anxiety issues? I vaguely remember that she didn't come downstairs for at least three months or so. That might have been a blessing in disguise for Poppy, I can't imagine having someone like Zoe around when you're grieving such a big loss.
 
I've said it for years but now it's confirmed, Zoe is going to HATE that it won't just be expected that everyone will sleep at hers on Christmas Eve and everyone goes to theirs for Christmas Day. Especially if Poppy's baby's birthday is around Christmas too, you'd think they'll want to make their own memories/traditions.
Dianne has all her family coming over for Xmas, so they will be busy. Could be a quiet Xmas for Zoe and Alfie. Just need Joe to pop the question and Zoe might have a meltdown.
 
Poppys stories are heartbreaking.

I have a new found respect for her with what she’s been through and she’s still managed to acknowledge her privilege with accessing treatment and therapy and just be positive about how grateful she is.

I do think Zoe’s whole drama with going offline for 3 months, not appearing in any videos or responding to comments, then coming on and complaining about anxiety in the first trimester so she couldn’t do anything is completely tone deaf. Don’t get me wrong pregnancy is hard and I’m sure an anxiety filled time. But it really did seem like their world revolved around Zoe’s needs.
But how awful for Poppy when she’s gone through an ecoptic, a loss and 2 failed rounds of IVF. She really was suffering in silence. And she still turned up to every family event.
 
But how awful for Poppy when she’s gone through an ecoptic, a loss and 2 failed rounds of IVF. She really was suffering in silence. And she still turned up to every family event.
I was thinking that as I went back and looked at Zoe’s baby shower photos with Ottie and seeing Poppy holding Zoe’s bump with a smile on her face made me feel so sad for her. She was having her own fertility struggles even back then and yet she still showed up for Zoe and acted like everything was fine when she was probably hurting inside. Zoe would never do that if the roles were reversed
 
I've been in the same position as poppy and Sean, had a miscarriage and my sister who already had a baby kept telling me how haAAaard pregnancy was and how much weight she had gained, and how your life is never the same blah blah blah. The usual crap you really don't want to hear when you've lost your baby. I hope Poppy and Sean have a healthy and happy pregnancy. X
 
One thing that has stood out to me on Poppys stories is her repeated statement of knowing how lucky they are to be able to access treatment/IVF/therapy. I’ve never thought much of Poppy tbh but the stark difference to her compared to Zoe who is unable to ever appreciate her privilege is stark.
 
Must have been incredibly hard that poppy and Sean were trying before Zoe and Alfie and now they’ve already got two children!

A lot of us have been there tbh, but we can’t stop other people’s lives from happening. My sister got pregnant when I was in the midst of fertility struggles but I felt happy for her, and then we decided to try again quite early after our baby because we expected the same problems and now I’ve got 2 under 2 😂

Poppy has also gained a newfound respect out of me as well, and she’s making Zoe look awful in the process, completely insensitive and selfish!
 
I watched Zoe’s vlog from a while ago when her and Alfie went to Dubai. I thought it was absolutely crazy that one, she would EVER go to Dubai because it’s far away for her, two, vlog it and three actually look like she was enjoying it? Maybe it’s just me but they do absolutely no going out compared to what they used to.
 
I watched Zoe’s vlog from a while ago when her and Alfie went to Dubai. I thought it was absolutely crazy that one, she would EVER go to Dubai because it’s far away for her, two, vlog it and three actually look like she was enjoying it? Maybe it’s just me but they do absolutely no going out compared to what they used to.
It was a sponsor thats why she went!
 
I went ahead and read all of Poppy’s stories about answering questions and wow, she’s really eloquent with how she talks about her struggle with infertility and loss. She understands that being able to afford IVF without any worry about the cost is a privilege she could have, at least her parents have raised one child to realise that they do have the privilege to afford things most of us can’t without extreme saving or worrying about the cost. That baby girl is already so loved by her parents who are grateful for to be the one to allow them to become parents, they’ve gotten on with life after loss and it’s lovely that they’ve got their rainbow at long last. It really puts into perspective how different Zoe and Poppy have acted towards their pregnancies, one is appreciative and is so excited to finally be a mother and one treated her pregnancies like an inconvenience while she stayed in bed for months. I’m so happy for Poppy and Sean!
 
Re Zoe staying in bed for the first 3 months and what Poppy must’ve thought…

It sounds like Poppy did the exact same thing. I guess that’s what basically unemployed and lazy social media people do then? 😶
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Why on earth would she have had over 400 injections this pregnancy alone?
 
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