Zoe Sugg #67 Boring and beige, will never be a Deyes.

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hannah123 said:
I’ve always found Poppy worse, she came across as a massive snob with a stick up her arse for someone with no job and a lay about boyfriend. Happy for them and their pregnancy, but a lot of the things people are criticising Zoe for Poppy does as well. She’s already said she’s basically spent the last few months lying in bed eating cheese sandwiches.
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Exactly. They’ll say can you imagine how Poppy must feel watching her Tory layabout family lying in bed all day just because they’re pregnant… when that’s exactly Poppy?!

@Jasminexx02 I originally posted asking where she said she had HG but realise you mean her posting about being sick a lot and not that she was diagnosed with something. But also: so? Millions of women have pregnancies where they vomit a lot or feel sick a lot. But it’s only the Sugg Deyes clan that take to their bed the whole time. Everyone else gets on with it.
 
poppy said she has killer cells, so injections will be for various things, blood thinners etc I’d imagine. I also imagine she was in bed a lot resting given her previous loss, and most likely heightened anxiety too. Unless you’ve been in that situation you have no idea how you’ll handle it. I think she has spoken really well, about a very sensitive subject, has acknowledged her privilege and been very open it seems. Although I imagine there are many hard times she hasn’t disclosed, 4.5 years is a long time.
 
Yeah, I think a lot of us just have a lot of sympathy for her if we’ve been in similar situations. Sure, she’s very privileged, but she has acknowledged it. I’m pregnant with my rainbow baby and I relate to a lot of what she has said and admire her raising for awareness. It’s refreshing to see somebody with an “influencer” status acknowledging how difficult pregnancy after a loss(es) can be. I’ve criticised Poppy for other things in the past, I’m not saying she’s a saint by any means, but I just really feel for her when it comes to this
 
I guess I just find it difficult to look past the reality of who someone is just because they’ve experienced difficult times 🤷‍♀️ everyone’s experienced difficulty in life. But I do find it bizarre how many people suddenly overlook anything questionable when someone speaks about difficulties they’ve experienced… I suppose that’s why there’s always so many sob stories on reality tv competitions etc!
 
I have high nk cells and had 13 miscarriages before I had my son. I was on steroids, hydroxychloroquine and blood thinners. I had to be on a very very clean low carb diet to lower inflammation. I finallt
got pregnant and had my baby 5 years to the month we started trying. I feel for her. it was the worst time of my life. My SIL had two kids in that time too. I’m just happy she’s having her happy ending. My son changed my life.
 
Smca53 said:
I guess I just find it difficult to look past the reality of who someone is just because they’ve experienced difficult times 🤷‍♀️ everyone’s experienced difficulty in life. But I do find it bizarre how many people suddenly overlook anything questionable when someone speaks about difficulties they’ve experienced… I suppose that’s why there’s always so many sob stories on reality tv competitions etc!
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People aren’t other looking it, it’s just that this news has just came out so people are talking specifically about that? You’re allowed to not like someone or what they do but still be happy for them when they open up about an unfortunately very relatable situation that doesn’t get spoken about much.

Don’t get it twisted, she’s still an unanimous lazy bore. But I take my hat off to her for how she’s handles this and how she’s acknowledged her privilege which is something both Alfie and Zoe are very blind to.
 
mmpop22 said:
I have high nk cells and had 13 miscarriages before I had my son. I was on steroids, hydroxychloroquine and blood thinners. I had to be on a very very clean low carb diet to lower inflammation. I finallt
got pregnant and had my baby 5 years to the month we started trying. I feel for her. it was the worst time of my life. My SIL had two kids in that time too. I’m just happy she’s having her happy ending. My son changed my life.
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I’m so sorry for your losses and your awful experience 💖
 
Yupyupyup said:
People aren’t other looking it, it’s just that this news has just came out so people are talking specifically about that? You’re allowed to not like someone or what they do but still be happy for them when they open up about an unfortunately very relatable situation that doesn’t get spoken about much.

Don’t get it twisted, she’s still an unanimous lazy bore. But I take my hat off to her for how she’s handles this and how she’s acknowledged her privilege which is something both Alfie and Zoe are very blind to.
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How exactly did she acknowledge her privilege? I must’ve missed that but people keep saying it, so I guess I missed something. I don’t follow her, just went to view her stories yesterday.

IMO “doesn’t get spoken about much” is a very outdated and sort of naive comment. We now live in an age where “influencers” literally create careers and rake in money from speaking about health issues including fertility and birth struggles. Make no mistake, it’s been monetised, along with everything else. My insta explore page for example is FULL of IVF pages, fertility journey pages, etc - and I have zero interest in any of that, but it seems to get pushed on me, I can only assume the algorithm targets me because of my age and gender and sadly probably also the fact I clicked on them to block as many of them as I could
 
Smca53 said:
How exactly did she acknowledge her privilege? I must’ve missed that but people keep saying it, so I guess I missed something. I don’t follow her, just went to view her stories yesterday.

IMO “doesn’t get spoken about much” is a very outdated and sort of naive comment. We now live in an age where “influencers” literally create careers and rake in money from speaking about health issues including fertility and birth struggles. Make no mistake, it’s been monetised, along with everything else. My insta explore page for example is FULL of IVF pages, fertility journey pages, etc - and I have zero interest in any of that, but it seems to get pushed on me, I can only assume the algorithm targets me because of my age and gender and sadly probably also the fact I clicked on them to block as many of them as I could
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She said on a Q&A on IG she is in a privileged position or something to that extent. Also the difference in Poppy taking to her bed is she has no other child needing her, when Zoe took to her bed for 3 months she still had Ottie.
 
Smca53 said:
I guess I just find it difficult to look past the reality of who someone is just because they’ve experienced difficult times 🤷‍♀️ everyone’s experienced difficulty in life. But I do find it bizarre how many people suddenly overlook anything questionable when someone speaks about difficulties they’ve experienced… I suppose that’s why there’s always so many sob stories on reality tv competitions etc!
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I may dislike a person (i have no ill feelings towards poppy whatsoever, but appreciate some dislike her), whilst also being able to acknowledge their hard times and empathise. I wouldn’t dismiss someone’s difficulties just because I don’t like them. Infertility is horrendous, heartbreaking and devastating, actually none of those words even correctly describe it. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. So I’m not going to roll my eyes and give off about someone’s handing of the crappy hand they’ve been dealt just because I don’t personally like that person.
 
Nfusjabshjxmdmk said:
I may dislike a person (i have no ill feelings towards poppy whatsoever, but appreciate some dislike her), whilst also being able to acknowledge their hard times and empathise. I wouldn’t dismiss someone’s difficulties just because I don’t like them. Infertility is horrendous, heartbreaking and devastating, actually none of those words even correctly describe it. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. So I’m not going to roll my eyes and give off about someone’s handing of the crappy hand they’ve been dealt just because I don’t personally like that person.
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I don’t like or dislike her, she doesn’t mean enough to me to result in either feeling. I’m only aware of her in connection with Z & A and my awareness extends to her being a lazy unemployed beg like her wider family, right alongside that boyfriend of hers. But I’m not going to suddenly view her any differently simply because she got pregnant after fertility issues. I just find it bizarre that people do.

Be interesting to see what excuses people come up with for her if she has another kid and stays in bed for 3 months with them too 🤣 I’m sure people will still find a way to make it different from Zoe even when it’s not!
 
Smca53 said:
Be interesting to see what excuses people come up with for her if she has another kid and stays in bed for 3 months with them too 🤣 I’m sure people will still find a way to make it different from Zoe even when it’s not!
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Assuming she doesn't suddenly have no fertility issues and make a series of videos saying teehee it was so easy to get pregnant it's like we weren't even trying it happened immediately teehee she'll still be doing better than Zoe.
 
I didn't really know what to make of the 'accepting shes privileged' comments as its sort of an understatement

If you don't work and your partner doesn't have a job and as a couple you experience fertility problems for most if not all the door for years of expensive private treatments and interventions is usually firmly closed, she's chosen to share a lot but much like Poppys lifestyle, home , taste for the finer things in interior design,the pot of money she seems to have access to seems more like the endless bank of mum and dad so do we need reminding that she privileged, no, do I want to give her a pat on the back for admitting it, no not really
do I feel very pessimistic that she started her channel because the penny might be dropping that life has to be paid for and this is her having a gentle not to stressful go at a bit of work, yeah .
 
MeghanSnarkle said:
I didn't really know what to make of the 'accepting shes privileged' comments as its sort of an understatement

If you don't work and your partner doesn't have a job and as a couple you experience fertility problems for most if not all the door for years of expensive private treatments and interventions is usually firmly closed, she's chosen to share a lot but much like Poppys lifestyle, home , taste for the finer things in interior design,the pot of money she seems to have access to seems more like the endless bank of mum and dad so do we need reminding that she privileged, no, do I want to give her a pat on the back for admitting it, no not really
do I feel very pessimistic that she started her channel because the penny might be dropping that life has to be paid for and this is her having a gentle not to stressful go at a bit of work, yeah .
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She does work though she does art and sells it.
 
coconochanel said:
Not sarcastic, we know she sells her artwork. I'm not saying she works a lot but she does work, she did that event for TheAnnaedit where she designed the invitation cards or something and I bet she charges a bit.
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But whats that fuckwit Sean doing while she moulds pots and paints tiles mummy and daddy Deyes are paying for his baby to enter the world while he's busy down the skate park 😉
 
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