Womanhood and injustices against women #2

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Blueblue123 said:
Is anyone seeing this Yung Filly stuff?

news.sky.com

British YouTuber and rapper Yung Filly charged with rape in Australia

It is alleged the internet star, presenter and rapper - who is touring Australia - sexually assaulted a woman in her 20s in his Perth hotel room after a show.
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If you don't know him, he's a super popular youtuber and in the last few years girls have been coming forward saying he's been weird with them. Nothing illegal but like messaging them then insulting them when they wouldn't meet up with him.

He has a really bubbly personality (online anyway) and his supporters are saying they're shocked at the charges because he doesn't seem like the type.

Isn't that the point of what we women always say? That it's not all men but it's impossible to know which ones?

But anyone who's come across bad men will know that they can seem really positive and fun in public yet be completely evil behind closed doors. And the stories of him being rude to women were huge red flags actually!
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Some men are reacting to this by advising each other to stay out of trouble by finding one woman and settling down or practicing discipline over their sexual urges. Or... just respect other people's bodies and don't commit crime?

We have so far to go if men still believe that the difference between a rapist and a non rapist is self control. Rape is not on the same scale as sexual intercourse and women aren't rehabilitation centres for deviant behaviour.
 
Blueblue123 said:
Is anyone seeing this Yung Filly stuff?

news.sky.com

British YouTuber and rapper Yung Filly charged with rape in Australia

It is alleged the internet star, presenter and rapper - who is touring Australia - sexually assaulted a woman in her 20s in his Perth hotel room after a show.
news.sky.com news.sky.com


He has a really bubbly personality (online anyway) and his supporters are saying they're shocked at the charges because he doesn't seem like the type.

Isn't that the point of what we women always say? That it's not all men but it's impossible to know which ones?

But anyone who's come across bad men will know that they can seem really positive and fun in public yet be completely evil behind closed doors. And the stories of him being rude to women were huge red flags actually!
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I was once seconded to work at a different office. While I was there it came out that a member of staff ‘one of the nicest men you could ever wish to meet’ had been arrested for having indecent images of children and young women on his computer. They included the highest category of indecency and he was later convicted of not only having the images but making and distributing them too. The entire office was stunned, nobody had suspected a thing as he was Mr Nice Guy personified.
 
Blueblue123 said:
Is anyone seeing this Yung Filly stuff?

news.sky.com

British YouTuber and rapper Yung Filly charged with rape in Australia

It is alleged the internet star, presenter and rapper - who is touring Australia - sexually assaulted a woman in her 20s in his Perth hotel room after a show.
news.sky.com news.sky.com

If you don't know him, he's a super popular youtuber and in the last few years girls have been coming forward saying he's been weird with them. Nothing illegal but like messaging them then insulting them when they wouldn't meet up with him.

He has a really bubbly personality (online anyway) and his supporters are saying they're shocked at the charges because he doesn't seem like the type.

Isn't that the point of what we women always say? That it's not all men but it's impossible to know which ones?

But anyone who's come across bad men will know that they can seem really positive and fun in public yet be completely evil behind closed doors. And the stories of him being rude to women were huge red flags actually!
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anyone who's come across bad men will know that they can seem really positive and fun in public yet be completely evil behind closed doors.

About 99.99% of them can be absolute charmers when it suits them - that's how they get away with it time and again.
 
Ruby’s mum said:
I was once seconded to work at a different office. While I was there it came out that a member of staff ‘one of the nicest men you could ever wish to meet’ had been arrested for having indecent images of children and young women on his computer. They included the highest category of indecency and he was later convicted of not only having the images but making and distributing them too. The entire office was stunned, nobody had suspected a thing as he was Mr Nice Guy personified.
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TheMiceInTheShed said:
anyone who's come across bad men will know that they can seem really positive and fun in public yet be completely evil behind closed doors.

About 99.99% of them can be absolute charmers when it suits them - that's how they get away with it time and again.
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Too right. It's fine to be shocked but no one should be defended solely for seeming "too nice" to commit a certain crime.
 
Blueblue123 said:
Some men are reacting to this by advising each other to stay out of trouble by finding one woman and settling down or practicing discipline over their sexual urges. Or... just respect other people's bodies and don't commit crime?

We have so far to go if men still believe that the difference between a rapist and a non rapist is self control. Rape is not on the same scale as sexual intercourse and women aren't rehabilitation centres for deviant behaviour.
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We have so far to go if men still believe that the difference between a rapist and a non rapist is self control. Rape is not on the same scale as sexual intercourse and women aren't rehabilitation centres for deviant behaviour.

They'll be demanding to have sexually compliant females issued on prescription next, to stop them being "forced to commit rape". I'm sick and tired of women being made responsible for male behaviour, or having to act as shields to protect deviant men from other men (supposedly) by allowing trans-identifying men into their spaces so the big bad men in the male spaces don't hurt them, as well as being forced to be complicit in the public expressions of the sort of perversions that would have got them arrested a decade or so ago.

I get angrier by the day.
 
Blueblue123 said:
Is anyone seeing this Yung Filly stuff?

news.sky.com

British YouTuber and rapper Yung Filly charged with rape in Australia

It is alleged the internet star, presenter and rapper - who is touring Australia - sexually assaulted a woman in her 20s in his Perth hotel room after a show.
news.sky.com news.sky.com

If you don't know him, he's a super popular youtuber and in the last few years girls have been coming forward saying he's been weird with them. Nothing illegal but like messaging them then insulting them when they wouldn't meet up with him.

He has a really bubbly personality (online anyway) and his supporters are saying they're shocked at the charges because he doesn't seem like the type.

Isn't that the point of what we women always say? That it's not all men but it's impossible to know which ones?

But anyone who's come across bad men will know that they can seem really positive and fun in public yet be completely evil behind closed doors. And the stories of him being rude to women were huge red flags actually!
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BIB...If I had a pound for every time I'd heard this said about a rapist or woman-beater, I'd be a bloody millionaire.
Along with other favourites such as (usually after a whole family has been murdered by the husband/father) "He seemed like such a normal bloke".
Or when a young woman has been killed by her ex-partner, "She told the police but they said that they couldn't arrest him until he did something"
And last but not least, the one they save for the no-nces who hoarde thousands of images of CSA, "He is of previous good character and shows genuine remorse", usually said just before they let him off with a slap on the wrist.
Why does no-one listen?
 
Minor de-rail - can anyone link me to a site/s regarding the evils of surrogacy? I'm giving a short talk in January, and had an excellent resource - very detailed, with first-hand stories from a lot of US (in particular) surrogates, accounts of some of the horrors perpetrated on children etc, but I had a big computer problem and lost the lot!

Any reference sites will be much appreciated. Thank you. I'm going to post this on the "gender" thread, too.
 
I don’t agree at all with what these women are doing (treating chimps like domestic animals) but I thought this description was a bit off

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thegirlscout said:
I don’t agree at all with what these women are doing (treating chimps like domestic animals) but I thought this description was a bit off

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Pity she isn't a transwoman - she would have been stunning and brave.

For the record re: chimps - they should be left in the jungle where they belong. Keeping them as pets isn't kind. In addition they are impossible to housetrain and become increasingly aggressive and unpredictable and they are bliddy dangerous! Charla Nash is probably the most well-known attack.

 
Returning to the reaction that the trial has sparked, she said: "I've been told I'm brave. This isn't being brave, it's having the will and determination to change society."

"Bravery means jumping into the sea to rescue someone. I just have will and determination," she said.

"This is why I come here every day... Even if I hear unspeakable things, I am holding on because of all the men and women who are right behind me."

www.bbc.co.uk

Gisèle Pelicot takes stand in French mass rape trial

She tells a court she wants women who have been raped to know that "it's not for us to have shame - it's for them".
www.bbc.co.uk

Sometimes the scale of male evil feels overwhelming but I get choked up when I see her. Unimaginable strength.
 
It almost makes me a bit nervous when we refer to the likes of Gisèle Pelicot as being brave/courageous etc because by implication, it means that we think those who don't report sexual assault or choose to remain anonymous are somehow cowardly. And they aren't.
I am absolutely blown away by the dignity she has shown in all this (as she should - she hasn't done anything wrong) I hope she is able to heal from all of this knowing that despite what those men did to her she has the support of woman (and I would hope most men) the world over
 
Mismatched Pegs said:
It almost makes me a bit nervous when we refer to the likes of Gisèle Pelicot as being brave/courageous etc because by implication, it means that we think those who don't report sexual assault or choose to remain anonymous are somehow cowardly. And they aren't.
I am absolutely blown away by the dignity she has shown in all this (as she should - she hasn't done anything wrong) I hope she is able to heal from all of this knowing that despite what those men did to her she has the support of woman (and I would hope most men) the world over
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I think I get your point, surviving any abuse requires bravery to keep going. I don’t think it means we can’t recognise that she is doing something extraordinary too.

She is paying a high psychological and social cost to face these men down with her name and face front and centre. I doubt I could. I think different women will use different aspects and words for this.

Despite the very positive coverage here of her case, it has not been in France and she has sat through shocking testimonies and local support.

I would perhaps compare it to Malala - we can recognise her experience and response is impressive, and without implying other Afghan women are less in anyway. Support is not a zero sum game.
 
Carefree said:
The Taliban bars Afghan women from hearing each other's voices in new edict -

nationalpost.com

Taliban bars Afghan women from hearing each other's voices in new edict

A woman’s voice is considered awrah, meaning that which must be covered, and shouldn’t be heard in public, even by other women
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Jesus wept 🫠
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Women are being literally silenced the world over.

The Taliban are doing this because they can. Many more men would do it to many more women if they could. As it is, here in the west, there are only some subjects we aren't allowed to talk about. At the moment.
 
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