Wagatha Christie #4 Rebekah Vardy vs Coleen Rooney

[TheDarkling]

The irony is, if the lying deceitful cow just let it go in the first place, and settled outside of court...these costs would have been avoided. But no.

Vardy thought her crocodile tears and vague nonsensical answers were going pull one over the judge and make the case swing her way. I mean she really fucked up when the mobile phone "mysteriously" was launched like a grenade Into the North sea went missing. Vardy massively damaged her image ( although it wasn't a beautiful image to begin with ) during this whole scam, and now she wants to go again?

Jesus woman, just pay up and look big, might just gain some credibility...although unlikely.

Looking forward to the coverage and seeing what fresh bollocks she comes out with!

 

[Flowerpotgirl]

The irony is, if the lying deceitful cow just let it go in the first place, and settled outside of court...these costs would have been avoided. But no.

Vardy thought her crocodile tears and vague nonsensical answers were going pull one over the judge and make the case swing her way. I mean she really fucked up when the mobile phone "mysteriously" was launched like a grenade Into the North sea went missing. Vardy massively damaged her image ( although it wasn't a beautiful image to begin with ) during this whole scam, and now she wants to go again?

Jesus woman, just pay up and look big, might just gain some credibility...although unlikely.

Looking forward to the coverage and seeing what fresh bollocks she comes out with!

I still chuckle when I think about the phone in the sea. She really thought that was going to work in court. It was a classic lol

 

[shellie]

I still chuckle when I think about the phone in the sea. She really thought that was going to work in court. It was a classic lol

The same happened with Amber Heard when she claimed she had hundreds of pictures showing her bruises and texts where Johnny admitted to attacking her but when it came time to hand them in, she refused to hand the phone over to have it checked when it became obvious the pictures and texts would be checked over to prove they were real.

 

[Mcomics]

Must be hard with no premiership money coming in & vardy near his footballing sell by date. They don't strike me as the sort who have rainy day money or have saved for the future.

 

[TheDarkling]

I still chuckle when I think about the phone in the sea. She really thought that was going to work in court. It was a classic lol

It's akin to " the dog ate my homework"

Must be hard with no premiership money coming in & vardy near his footballing sell by date. They don't strike me as the sort who have rainy day money or have saved for the future.

She'll plead poverty in the hearing, crying most likely that they simply don't have enough money to pay it. Jamie's going to be in the bin soon as his usefulness is coming to an end.

 

[Keep Smiling]

It's akin to " the dog ate my homework"



She'll plead poverty in the hearing, crying most likely that they simply don't have enough money to pay it. Jamie's going to be in the bin soon as his usefulness is coming to an end.

Probably shifted loads of money to a ‘North Sea offshore account’ and claim none of it is her money

 

[Yel]

I don't know anything about English civil law.

But in the US winning a civil action is the easy part but the enforcement is where it gets tricky. Not that she won in this case as she lost and the other party was awarded costs.

If it's against someone with money then they've moved assets away to be untouchable and you'd need to start another way more difficult case to try and get what one bit of expensive paper says.

 

[CrackingOwlSanctuary]

I suppose the problem Vardy has here is her entire 'fame' stems from marrying a professional footballer, and people will know what he's approximately earning. There was no doubt a promotion bonus too.

Luckily for her he still seems to be remarkably quick given his age, nothing compared to what he was but quick enough to catch out any defender who's momentarily switched off. I don't think they could argue his earning potential has dropped off though, I'm sure if this wasn't hanging over them she'd be shipping him off to Saudi or the US for a final big pay day.

 

[whathastheworldcometo]

I don't know anything about English civil law.

But in the US winning a civil action is the easy part but the enforcement is where it gets tricky. Not that she won in this case as she lost and the other party was awarded costs.

If it's against someone with money then they've moved assets away to be untouchable and you'd need to start another way more difficult case to try and get what one bit of expensive paper says.

The detailed cost assessment is a normal part of the civil process.

Each party has a cost bill and the winner usually pays the costs of the loser, but cost bills over GBP 75,000 they need to be assessed by a costs judge if the parties cannot agree on costs.

The cost judge will go through each item on the bill and determine whether it was reasonable to bill for it/ spend it, for example if Coleen's lawyer would have taken a helicopter to travel to a hearing it would be deemed unreasonable and only the amount of what a train fare would have cost would be awarded.

It is quite a laborious process and expensive in itself, so it is best to agree costs with the other party where possible.

Only after the costs bill has been assessed and it is clear how much Rebekah will have to pay (and this will include the costs for the cost assessment!) can Coleen enforce the cost bill.

It would have been more complex if the costs would have been awarded on the standard basis, as proportionality would then also have to be considered. As it is Coleen has been awarded costs on the indemnity basis - probably because she offered to settle out of court and Rebekah did not want to settle - so the only consideration is whether the lawyers were reasonable in adding certain items to the bill.
She will likely get between 80-90% of her cost bill, plus interest.

 

[shellie]

Looks like Coleen isn't the only one she owes money to.

Blow to Rebekah Vardy as two of her firms plunge into debt after Wagatha trial

REBEKAH Vardy’s finances have been hit hard by her Wagatha Christie legal battle — with two of her companies now in the red. The firms owned by her and footballer husband Jamie owe just over £180,0…

www.thesun.co.uk

I wonder how long it will take before she uses this as an excuse to claim that she can't pay her.

 

[Keep Smiling]

Looks like Coleen isn't the only one she owes money to.

Blow to Rebekah Vardy as two of her firms plunge into debt after Wagatha trial

REBEKAH Vardy’s finances have been hit hard by her Wagatha Christie legal battle — with two of her companies now in the red. The firms owned by her and footballer husband Jamie owe just over £180,0…

www.thesun.co.uk

I wonder how long it will take before she uses this as an excuse to claim that she can't pay her.

Can’t believe she has the nerve to trademark Wagatha Christie. What a beg.

 

[lamaitresse]

The two-parter Vardy Vs Rooney: The Wagatha Trial is on the satellite channel Really (advertised as 'new', though it was first on TV in 2022). Think I watched it the first time around, but worth a re-watch.

Couldn't believe the brass neck of Rebekah denying everything, even Caroline Watt saying 'it was me' (about a leaked story) on Whatsapp! Rebekah explained that message away by saying, 'I must've been busy at home at the time, I don't remember reading that'.

 

[Yel]

I wonder what the truth of this is? (nothing else of importance in the new mail article)

I'd of thought there were set rates the tax authorities allow per night in a london hotel and it would be a simple thing to cap it at that. £2000 a night is excessive. Although those expenses are the thin end of the wedge with all the legal fees that can't be disuputed.

My guess would be Rooney trying to annoy her, which is fair enough

 

[Readingthecomments]

I wonder what the truth of this is? (nothing else of importance in the new mail article)

I'd of thought there were set rates the tax authorities allow per night in a london hotel and it would be a simple thing to cap it at that. £2000 a night is excessive. Although those expenses are the thin end of the wedge with all the legal fees that can't be disuputed.

My guess would be Rooney trying to annoy her, which is fair enough

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Those lawyers are accustomed to a particular way of life, coleen was always going to hire the best lawyer in this case.
Rebekah should realise she is now reaping what she has sown. Should never have gone to court in the first place.
she simply can’t afford it, so shouldn’t have started the fight!

 

[whathastheworldcometo]

I wonder what the truth of this is? (nothing else of importance in the new mail article)

I'd of thought there were set rates the tax authorities allow per night in a london hotel and it would be a simple thing to cap it at that. £2000 a night is excessive. Although those expenses are the thin end of the wedge with all the legal fees that can't be disuputed.

My guess would be Rooney trying to annoy her, which is fair enough

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The cost claim is progressing to a detailed assessment hearing, which is a normal process if the cost bill cannot be agreed between the parties.

The article is not entirely accurate, the quoted judge is a senior costs judge and the hearing will take place in the Senior Costs Court Office (which is part of the HIgh Court, but not exactly the High Court).

The DM will have seen it listed on the court's website:

8. Senior Courts Costs Office Daily Cause List
Hearings in the Senior Courts Costs Office will be held in person unless the notice of hearing has directed otherwise. Any media representative or member of the public wishing to attend a remote hearing should provide an email address to be sent an appropriate link for access. Please contact [email protected] putting the hearing date and time in the subject box.

List for 4th October 2024. Updated 3rd October 2024 11:15am

Court	Judge	Time	Case Name	Case Number	Type of hearing
20	Senior Costs Judge Gordon-Saker	10:30am	Vardy v Rooney	SC-2023-BTP-001120	In person
94	Costs Judge Leonard	10:30am	R v Anjum	SC-2024-CRI-000088	Via MS Teams
96	Costs Judge Brown	2pm	Springall v gunnercooke llp	SC-2024-APP-000103	Via MS Teams

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Those lawyers are accustomed to a particular way of life, coleen was always going to hire the best lawyer in this case.
Rebekah should realise she is now reaping what she has sown. Should never have gone to court in the first place.
she simply can’t afford it, so shouldn’t have started the fight!

The lawyer's way of life is irrelevant for the assessment of the cost bill, as the court will only allow items on the cost bill that are relevant to the claim, and Mr David Sherborne's 5 o'clock martini will certainly not be allowed.
The courts do not care for glamour and luxuries.

The court will also only allow a maximum hourly rate for the lawyers, but have the power to give a bit of leeway. The guidance rates are posted on the court's website.
If Coleen decides to hire a more expensive lawyer than she will have to pay the difference herself.

Depending on what the cost order says the cost bill will be reduced between 20% and 40% , maybe even more if there are a lot of expensive expenses on the bill.
Colleen will also be restricted by the cost budget that her lawyers will have handed in at the time.

As ludicrous as her initial claim was (and it was completely stupid from her to go to court and she totally embarrassed herself), but in this case Rebekah is right to question the bill. Although it is another expensive court process.

 

[shellie]

It looks as if she is up to her old tricks. Messages she and Annie Kilner were swapping about Lauryn Goodman have been 'leaked' to the papers yet she again claims she had nothing to do with it and is blaming others including Annie.

New Wagatha Christie leak as Vardy embroiled in 'vicious' Kyle Walker texts

Rebekah Vardy's Wagatha Christie scandal is far from over, with her being revealed as a mystery friend who received vicious messages from Annie Kilner about Lauryn Goodman amid the Kyle Walker affair

www.dailystar.co.uk

 

[Yel]

but in this case Rebekah is right to question the bill. Although it is another expensive court process.

The whole process and how such big bills can be run up is insanity. You don't get this elsewhere in Europe.

If it was these few incidental things on the bill she's complaining about then it sounds like it could cost more going through this. £500 an hour seems the going rate for fees.

If I was Colleen I'd start a campaign to reform the whole thing (once vardy has paid up) as this corrupt system is probably low down on the list of things for the government to fix.

Britain’s libel lawyers are the most intimidating in the world. They are also among the most expensive. British libel cases routinely cost hundreds of thousands of pounds to defend, and London’s top libel lawyers command rates of more than £500 per hour. The costs of defending a suit in Britain are much greater than in comparable European countries (they can be higher in the US, but so is the bar for making a successful claim). It’s not unusual for libel suits in France or Italy to conclude with total costs of less than £15,000; in London, they can surpass £1m. Those who receive letters from firms like Carter-Ruck often back down not because they have a weak case, but because the cost of fighting a claim can become crippling. Even if victorious, defendants can find themselves on the hook for lawyers’ fees.

Britain’s libel industry (which is technically the libel industry of England and Wales, as the other nations of the United Kingdom have their own legal systems) didn’t develop in this direction by chance: it was pushed there by libel lawyers.

Britain’s fiercest libel firm can pursue anyone, anywhere

The government is trying to rein in firms like Carter-Ruck. It’s not easy

www.thebureauinvestigates.com

 

[whathastheworldcometo]

The whole process and how such big bills can be run up is insanity. You don't get this elsewhere in Europe.

If it was these few incidental things on the bill she's complaining about then it sounds like it could cost more going through this. £500 an hour seems the going rate for fees.

If I was Colleen I'd start a campaign to reform the whole thing (once vardy has paid up) as this corrupt system is probably low down on the list of things for the government to fix.

Britain’s fiercest libel firm can pursue anyone, anywhere

The government is trying to rein in firms like Carter-Ruck. It’s not easy

www.thebureauinvestigates.com

You are absolutely right!

The problem in the post office scandal was also that the High Court overturned the convictions - a big victory for the post masters - but despite the win the legal fees ate up the ordered payout.

It is such an unfair system.

I read that Vardy was paid to pay 90% of Rooney's costs, but this is likely to mean "reasonable" costs.
The cost judge will go through every item on the bill and reduce the time spent on each item and then will assess the legal fee allowed, I think the court's guidance rate for a Grade A fee earner is around 300 pounds, he might allow a bit more as the case was high profile (but not especially difficult).

In any case, Rooney should not mind that much - she sold the story to a streaming giant (was it Disney?) and will have made millions from the case, so what if she only gets half of her legal costs back.

 

[traceymrsd]

But why should Colleen have to be happy with happy with half her costs back! BV had an opportunity to prevent this from even going to court in the first place

 

[Norfolking Good]

Is BV only contesting it because Steptoe can’t afford to pay or is being understandably annoyed about her losing the case? She is a pathological liar so hope they get rinsed and the fact she is still leaking info in the Prozza Goodman case just goes to show she hasn’t changed one iota.