I'm confused as to how a childcare professional cannot manage her own kids and get them into a routine. If she started a routine and stuck with it from morning til night for a few weeks, her life would you be so much easier, but sure she'd have no content then at all. She's not doing the kids any favours by leaving them trash her house by day and cry themselves to sleep at night. The rule in my house has always been you don't take out another toy til the one you are playing with gets put away, and sometimes the place got trashed, but not on the reg like Julie's house. The more I am reading the posts here of moms doing it all alone or with minimal support, the more annoyed I am at Julie, she's an absolute snowflake, she has more support than most people, a better social life than any mom I know, and she spends most of her time complaining and whinging.