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I devoured the books and loving the episodes so far, I’ve got two more left which I’ll binge tonight.
The thing that’s coming through to me is a culture of treating staff like tit and a real underbelly of one upmanship with bitchy undertones. Not a good mix. Like how the Snr Registrar is such so obnoxious and rude and his female counterpart in ep 4 was similarly awful, almost verging on bullying IMO. Although you can see her heart was in the right place with Shrut.
Is this generally representative of reality? Adam is portrayed as much more abrasive than I imagined from the books!
 
Just finished. Actually found it quite hard to watch and cried through a lot of it. Didn’t realise actually just what a state the nhs is in, I just got to work and make light of it. But tbh it’s like a war zone at the moment. And the bullying and rudeness, and treating people like tit is so common, and so accepted you barely notice it. But now I can’t stop thinking about all the times I’ve been spoken to like that.

In the books I loved Adam, he doesn’t come across well in this? It’s very very different from the books. If it had had a different name I wouldn’t have known they were linked.

Glad it highlighted suicide in doctors. There’s been 2 doctors in our trust committed suicide in recent years.
 
I'm nearly finished it now, think it is great. It's mad how you can see the change in Shruti and how it is affecting her.

I don't know a lot about the politics of the NHS but is it true the government are trying to make it as bad as possible so eventually it has to privatise like the USA?

I always thought it must be amazing to be a doctor and so rewarding but it looks like the price you have to pay in exchange is losing your life so to speak.
 
For me it’s weird I read the book and loved it. I listened to the audio book and didn’t like it so much because the ‘voice’ of Adam i created in my head was a lot less condescending and arrogant than how he read his own work out. I feel therefore that the tv show depiction is very accurate.

Having said that, I think the job and the stress and all of the pressure and things going on around him was perfectly valid reasons for why he was a bit cold, shut off and rude sometimes.

Overall I loved the show but i wouldn’t rewatch it , it was too harrowing.
 
Heyholetsgo said:
I don't know a lot about the politics of the NHS but is it true the government are trying to make it as bad as possible so eventually it has to privatise like the USA?

I always thought it must be amazing to be a doctor and so rewarding but it looks like the price you have to pay in exchange is losing your life so to speak.
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Yes. They will wear it down, break it into pieces and sell it off. This idea will be sold to the public as improving services, with options to pay extra to skip waiting lists etc until eventually you have a 2 tier system where the rich get the best care and everyday people get the bare minimum unless they have health insurance.
 
DozyDora said:
I devoured the books and loving the episodes so far, I’ve got two more left which I’ll binge tonight.
The thing that’s coming through to me is a culture of treating staff like tit and a real underbelly of one upmanship with bitchy undertones. Not a good mix. Like how the Snr Registrar is such so obnoxious and rude and his female counterpart in ep 4 was similarly awful, almost verging on bullying IMO. Although you can see her heart was in the right place with Shrut.
Is this generally representative of reality? Adam is portrayed as much more abrasive than I imagined from the books!
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The awful bullying and blame culture is the most stressful thing to watch about the show!
The characters are all so good, everyone has some depth, even if they come across as a twit at first. I found the female consultant really interesting as a contrast to the uber posh Mr Jennings. Adam is undeniably a snob but her calling him out publicly seemed personal.
The shots of Mr Jennings in his leather chair at home really made me laugh for some reason.
I hope Shruti manages to make it work with the nice baby doctor (I'm on episode 4).
 
Amyx1518 said:
For me it’s weird I read the book and loved it. I listened to the audio book and didn’t like it so much because the ‘voice’ of Adam i created in my head was a lot less condescending and arrogant than how he read his own work out. I feel therefore that the tv show depiction is very accurate.

Having said that, I think the job and the stress and all of the pressure and things going on around him was perfectly valid reasons for why he was a bit cold, shut off and rude sometimes.

Overall I loved the show but i wouldn’t rewatch it , it was too harrowing.
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He also had a lot going on personally (stuff that was not portrayed in the book or in the show) that added to his pressure levels. I think he comes from a family history of doctors too so I wonder if there was familial pressure to be a medic even though he may not have actually wanted to.
 
I didn't read the book beforehand so wasn't too sure what I was letting myself in for.
However, as a mum who's given birth a few times, the first time, my pelvis had split beforehand and then I tore and needed stitching back up by a surgeon, I can totally relate to this!
The surgeon who had to stitch me up, after I'd been in labour for 3 days, had a bad back the poor man! He actually moaned I needed to have my feet at a certain position in stirrups due to my pelvis and how sore his back was whilst I was bleeding all over the floor of the theatre having not been allowed to hold my first born for more than 1 minute 😡

Anyway, I absolutely loved this programme. I went through a complete love/hate relationship with Adam, but weirdly understood it.
 
Calabria said:
He also had a lot going on personally (stuff that was not portrayed in the book or in the show) that added to his pressure levels. I think he comes from a family history of doctors too so I wonder if there was familial pressure to be a medic even though he may not have actually wanted to.
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Absolutely. Could well be!
 
Just finished the whole series and absolutely loved it.

I hope those who were quick to criticise on Twitter watch more, it's clear by the end that Adam is a complex character and we aren't meant to cheer everything he does.

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It felt right that Tracey, the very likeable and capable midwife, was the one to make the complaint. She was clearly doing it out of a sense of integrity and it rings true that a midwife would be the person to stand for values like patient autonomy. I was glad she called out the tattoo thing specifically because that actually really disturbed me.

I was devastated for Shruti, and that she still felt there was no way out even after doing so well on her shift and passing her exams. I actually cried with happiness when she was managing the patient who came over from the private hospital.

As much as Adam could be a head you do feel for him and it seems like he has no support at one point- I'm glad they let Julian show an empathetic side. The one thing that didn't ring true about this show is that the junior doctors I know form strong friendships with each other- presumably because they have to!

I loved him and Harry and although I'm fairly sure Harry could do better, I was glad they reconciled.

I feel like they've left the door open for a second series which is great, and they could delve into characters like Tracey, Miss Horton, even Julian? Hopefully show Adam developing healthy coping mechanisms since he's decided to stay in medicine.

It was definitely a very dark show but there were so many hilarious moments. The clip art poster for Adam's engagement party really made me laugh. And "you've got lots of transferable skills!" "Like....pulling babies out of vaginas?"

For those who've read the book, is any of the stuff about his mother lifted from there? She's a piece of work!

Feels like Emma is a bit too type A /conservative to get pregnant before being married but I guess people are more than their stereotypes?
 
josie22 said:
Loved the book - one of the best things I’ve ever read. I generally love anything Adam Kay does. I watched the first 3 episodes on Iplayer and it’s definitely the most realistic portrayal of working in the NHS that I’ve seen and I loved the attention to detail with the clinical scenes and terminology. However.. I wasn’t overly keen on how he’s been adapted on screen. He comes across as rude, arrogant at times and very dismissive of those around him, whereas in the book and interviews he’s much warmer and you can clearly see he cared but was just burnt out by the system. I’m enjoying it but think I just had such high expectations to start with!
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I agree with you 100% he was under huge pressure in the book but came over as really likeable and caring, on TV his character is rude and grovelled horribly to his consultant. I thought the 2nd episode was better than the first but I much preferred the book, but I will carry on watching.
 
Amyx1518 said:
Absolutely. Could well be!
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I agree, I once shared a flat with a Nigerian girl who was a medical student. She came from a strict family who decided what career paths their kids would follow, she didn't get a say. She said she would have preferred to be a secretrary but her parents insisted she trained as a Dr as she had an aptitude for science, they made their other daughter train as a lawyer. She was okay with the theory but hated the practical stuff eg having to deal with patients private parts. She ended up doing a desk job as a Dr with the Dept of Health which she was good at.
 
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