The Traitors #2

Who do we want to win?

  • Meryl

    Votes: 3 0.8%
  • Aaron

    Votes: 181 50.6%
  • Wilfred

    Votes: 95 26.5%
  • Kieran

    Votes: 26 7.3%
  • Andrea

    Votes: 18 5.0%
  • Maddy

    Votes: 24 6.7%
  • Hannah

    Votes: 11 3.1%

  • Total voters
    358
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I did love the way he tried to spin it that he had handpicked and kept the last 3 so that if he didn’t win, they did.
No, you’d kept them because you had completely hoodwinked them until Kieran went rogue and you over played your hand :D
Absolutely! He kept manipulating them even after he'd lost. He just couldn't help himself...and most of that was for our benefit, as he was thinking about how he'd be perceived by the outside world.

More fool Hannah if she still thinks that her & Wilf are good friends. I know it's just a game but their whole friendship is built on lies. After seeing how sly he is and how easily he used people, I certainly wouldn't trust him IRL.

Also why is Kieran getting so much stick for potentially bending/breaking rules when the all-knowing Wilf basically told the last 3 to end the game because they would win. Is that not worse?!
 
Also why is Kieran getting so much stick for potentially bending/breaking rules when the all-knowing Wilf basically told the last 3 to end the game because they would win. Is that not worse?!

He didn’t just tell them he was practically having a breakdown!! He knew how much Hannah thought of him and was happy to manipulate that into her losing everything for his own gain. He was acting like there was only him standing to lose- I think being a traitor inflated his ego it certainly became the Wilf show after Amanda left.
 
Reflecting back on how it all panned out, it was gratifying to see Wilf given a taste of his own medicine. He totally lost the plot in the end and was the architect of his own downfall with his ranting, tantrum-y reaction to Kieran's "parting gift". If he'd had his head on straight he would have celebrated more at the Round Table that they'd eliminated the (last?) traitor and then could have downplayed Kieran's vote as a petty-minded personality clash or something.

Personally I think he'd have been better recruiting Hannah. She'd probably have been impressed with his ruthless self-preservation rather than disdainful of him like Kieran was. He could have buttered her up and said he knew he'd get the chance to recruit again and was always going to choose her so they could split the money. It would have been pretty easy for them to influence the gormless Meryl to banish Aaron and then, when he was revealed as a Faithful, to banish Kieran next. But maybe greed and arrogance got the better of him after having seen off his fellow traitors previously?

I suppose it's easy to suggest all that with hindsight and not so likely in the heat of battle. However, I found Wilf's fake reaction of "relief" at being eliminated and claiming he wanted the other 3 to share the money to be completely laughable. 😄 He looked like he couldn't even convince himself of that BS (but of course the largely clueless winners took it at face value at the time). 🤦

What a great series this has been. I've found myself discussing it with a wide range of friends and it seems to have totally hooked viewers in, in a way very few new programmes have in recent years.

It'll be very interesting to see what tweaks (if any) they make to the format for the second series. I hope they cast well and avoid any obvious wannabe types, but it's always going to be more tricky when potential contestants will have an understanding of the best ways to progress in the game (though going by the 3 winners, that means being under the radar, slightly dim and easily-led). 🤭
 
I did laugh at Wilf’s pathetic ‘I set it up for you guys to win’. What a weasel! More fool them for believing that tripe.
At the end of the day, when they voted whether or not to end the game. He voted to end it! He wanted the money. If he did ‘set it up’ for them to win, he would have voted for another banishment to oust himself, but he didn’t. Actions speak louder than words.
He isn’t a nice person. I was proud of Hannah for finally seeing the light but I’m surprised she can see past his manipulations, knowing what she does. I wonder if he had got away with it and won the money, would she be as forgiving?
 
I feel like will had the right idea, they needed to get a traitor out otherwise the game would've had to keep going until they found one but he went about it the wrong way

hannah would've believed anything he said, so him and kieran should've got her to go against meryl- just the 3 of them voting her regardless of what aaron did would've got her out

Then he could've acted shocked that they were wrong but rallied hannah up against Aaron, he's had the finger pointed at him before so it would seem like the next logical choice especially if Kieran backed him up

It would've left kieran will and hannah- hannah woild've lost all the money which would be ruthless and will and Kieran would split it 50/50

granted will would've had to share which clearly he had no intention of wanting to, but he would've won

throwing kieran under the bus was always going to backfire when kieran knew he was a traitor too!
 
This show had EVERYTHING! Hannah went from being my favourite, to me actively wanting Wilf to murder her just so she'd see sense and then became the hero in the last five minutes.

The casting was so on point; the Big Brother reboot really needs to look to this as inspo when they're putting their line-up together. I don't worry about Season 2 feeling less innocent - the show is so heavily edited and produced they can easily remove too much 'game talk' from the final product.

I also wonder how different the show would have been had three other starting traitors been picked: Andrea, Hannah and Theo would have been an interesting trio.
 
I'm confused...

Re version 2 scenario. If they're allowed to keep playing, why would Hannah agree to end the game at that point, ie without finding a traitor?

They knew that there was at least one traitor left (who murdered Andrea), so surely there would be another banishment at that point and I just can't see 2 traitors ending up splitting the money. I couldn’t see Wilf & Kieran both voting to get rid of Hannah so they could share the prize...not likely.....so they'd be left with one traitor and one faithful, so one traitor keeps it all.

In my head that makes sense. Am I missing something?!

They'd have come back and both voted for hannah, she would go. they'd have to team up to both guarantee getting the prize. 50k each.

The other thing that works in the shows favour is its not a popularity contest like love Island, big brother etc. So if you come on it for fame you can't do what youd usually do for attention to make public warm to you and leave with lucrative deals lined up.
 
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And I'm now very jealous of Matt getting Aaron wrapped around him! 🥵🥵
 
They'd have come back and both voted for hannah, she would go. they'd have to team up to both guarantee getting the prize. 50k each.
Yes but could you ever see that happening? Wilf's paranoia wouldn't ever allow him to trust Kieran...he'd expect Hannah to vote Kieran and Wilf would do the same. Then Wilf would have the lot.

As others have said, Kieran was doomed from the moment he was recruited and he knew it. If the traitors were going to win, there would realistically only ever be one winner....Wilf.
 
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